Natalee Case Discussion #705 12/18 - 12/20/07

[Magnolia]

I propose:
We should collectively work on a legal petition to submit to our politicians to put pressure on an internal Dutch investigation of their authorities.  I'm proposed the same to BFN.  Perhaps this will get a voice out of the blogs and into action.

Ocean,
I like you and I like what you are about.  You must realize though that most of us
have been here for over two years and we knew there was corruption in the investigation from about day three.  We have written to everybody we could think of.
We have gathered tons of information that was contrary to what Aruba was saying.
When Mos came out and re-arrested the three perps we got a little hope.
I don't think it matters much what we do.  The Arubans will not do anything
and evidently the Dutch won't either.  They closed this case long ago.

[SunnyinTX]

***SPECIAL NOTICE***
Tuesday, 18-Dec - 1500 hrs:
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/

It's time to take your voices outside of the blog to your local politicians and press agencies.  Let them know how you feel.  Pray for Aruba, pray for the Holloways, pray for the search. 

you are so right......prayers for all of you....God speed

[SunnyinTX]

Klaas My sentiments exactly!

Trying to get Red to approve Cafepress t-shirts at cost with the above on them.

YES!!!!!

[Lala'sMom]

I'd like to know who got to that prosecutor and what did they threaten him with.

my thoughts exactly....he had the goods..I am convinced he did and I am equally convinced he was ordered to halt any and all questioning and further pursuit of these three murderers....what tacojoe saw and what JQK saw was crap.....they didn't see the new and incriminating evidence.....

What if he was threatened long before he arrived and this was all part of the plan?  He didn't just decide to not prosecute within days of his arrival...this was a pre-planned situation and it's all about the money.....follow the money...it leads to the Hague, the drug smuggling and gambling and porn and even into the USA.  No one is without guilt here...it's all about the money.  Why do you think the reward money hasn't brought out the snitches?  They can make more money keeping their mouths shut. 

[Tamikosmom]

Natalee Holloway Case Dismissed

By NBC 13 Staff
E-mail
From a press release by the Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office:

The office notified the three suspects in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 24 year old D.S.K., his brother, 21 year old S.S.K., and 20 year old J.v.d. S., that no charges will be brought against them.
 
At the same time the American lawyer of the parents of Natalee Holloway was informed by telephone and fax about this decision.

Based on a lengthy and extensive supplementary investigation, executed by a mixed team of Dutch and Aruban detectives, the three suspects were re-arrested by the end of November. These arrests were based on new evidence that was gathered during the investigation of the past eight months. Although a judge shared the Public Prosecutor’s decision that sufficient new evidence was produced to justify the re-arrest of the suspects and keep them in custody. The period of custody did not bring the final breakthrough in this investigation. All three suspects claimed their right not to give any statement at all. Finally, in an appeal of the Public Prosecutor against the early release of the two brothers K., the Court of Appeal ruled that the investigation did not show sufficient evidence to conclude that Natalee Holloway had died due to a violent crime. It were exactly these kinds of crimes the Public Prosecutor held against the three suspects.

Since the release of all three suspects the Public Prosecutor’s Office has diligently considered and weighed all available evidence. It came to the opinion that the investigation did not bring about sufficient evidence to convince a Court of law that a crime of violence against Natalee Holloway has been committed, nor that her death has been caused by involuntary actions by either of the suspects. Neither was sufficient evidence gathered for sexual abuse. The Public Prosecutor’s Office expects that if this case would be tried in court it would lead to an acquittal of all three suspects on these various charges. Given that expectation the Public Prosecutor could no longer press charges against all three. It is contrary to the professional conduct to prosecute someone if the prosecutor himself expects an acquittal.

Although the Public Prosecutor’s Office did see and still sees possibilities to prove that Natalee Holloway is no longer alive, the fact that her body never was found forms an important deficit in a possible reconstruction of the facts. Mainly because of that reason the current police report can not answer the question which crime was committed in the night of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway nor shed light on the exact role of the three suspects in the events.

Yet the Public Prosecutor’s Office and the team of investigators are convinced that after this year’s investigation from April until December, it has become clear that any scenario beyond the one that implicates these three suspects has either been falsified or is proven to be highly unlikely.

By notifying the three suspects that they will not be charged with the crimes that were under investigation by the judge of instruction or for which they have been kept in custody or, two years ago, in pre-trial detention, these crimes now have been dismissed. This does not imply that, if new serious evidence were to be found, this case could never be tried in court again. This is still possible within the statute of limitation. In case of involuntary manslaughter this period is 6 years counting from the day following the crime that was committed. In case of homicide this period ends after 12 years.

The Public Prosecutor’s Office is more than aware of the fact that this result of the investigation is a tough burden to bear for the parents of Natalee Holloway. After losing their daughter they have not been able to bring her back. Because of that important reason, amongst others, the Public Prosecutor’s Office and the Police have gone the extra mile and have exhausted all their powers and techniques, in order to solve the mystery of the disappearance of the girl. It took a lengthy and very intensive investigation where even help from abroad was asked for and received. Despite the fact that with all this we have not been able to solve the case, the Public Prosecutor’s Office and the Police share the opinion that by making the choice to try to do everything that is within their possibilities to bring the case to a solution, they made the right decision.

http://www.nbc13.com/gulfcoastwest/vtm/news.apx.-content-articles-VTM-2007-12-18-0004.html

At no time following the recent detentions did Hans Mos' imply that charges against Joran, Deepak and Satish in relation to the the "New and Sufficient" was dependent on admissions.  This was only revealed following the release of the Kalpoe brothers.

Logic dictates that Joran, Deepak and Satish's attorneys were going to advise them not to talk.

Janet

+++++++

Hans Mos
ABC NEWS
November 26, 2007

Hans Mos, Aruba's chief prosecutor, told ABC News he believes the the new evidence makes the case against the three men stronger than it was two years.

"We are convinced if we had had this evidence we have now they would not have been released by the court at that time," Mos said.

http://sendtofriend.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3912737

[Keepthefaith]

First,and formost, i would like to thank the Scared monkeys team to allow me to join a group of people that truly do care.I came across this board yesterday after doing a little browsing.It is quite horrifying to see people continue to bash Natalee,as well as her family.Just starting to learn more and more about this case.Will someone truly do an investigative report on the where the history starts with Paulus and his cohorts??I for the life of me, can't understand how people can't see the problem with your friends doing a murder investigation on your good friend,as well as sons!This is unbelievable!!Again.Thank You for allowing me the opportunity to join.

Keepthefaith

[Anna]

Yes, we have written to everybody under the sun, sent reams of pages of documentation of evidence all to no avail.

Rudy Croes says HE got to Mos and would have done so BEFORE these last arrests had he been notified that they were in the making.  Can't get any plainer than that.

No evidence on the face of this earth would ever be good enough for them to bring charges and go to trial.

And the FBI has absolutely no jurisdiction to do anything unless we are prepared to invade which I highly doubt.

Jug and Beth likely thought the world would be shocked at the drugging and keeping people in choller houses until they emptied their bank accounts.  I don't think anybody is holding back much at all this late in the game.

MO

[snoopy]

Welcome Keepthefaith.  You will find no better group of people than
 "Scared Monkeys".

[kooolkatt]

First,and formost, i would like to thank the Scared monkeys team to allow me to join a group of people that truly do care.I came across this board yesterday after doing a little browsing.It is quite horrifying to see people continue to bash Natalee,as well as her family.Just starting to learn more and more about this case.Will someone truly do an investigative report on the where the history starts with Paulus and his cohorts??I for the life of me, can't understand how people can't see the problem with your friends doing a murder investigation on your good friend,as well as sons!This is unbelievable!!Again.Thank You for allowing me the opportunity to join.

Keepthefaith

Welcome Keepthefaith! What an appropriate name   I just about to post, "Keep the Faith Monkeys!" Three things cannot long be hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth!

[ldstlou]

First,and formost, i would like to thank the Scared monkeys team to allow me to join a group of people that truly do care.I came across this board yesterday after doing a little browsing.It is quite horrifying to see people continue to bash Natalee,as well as her family.Just starting to learn more and more about this case.Will someone truly do an investigative report on the where the history starts with Paulus and his cohorts??I for the life of me, can't understand how people can't see the problem with your friends doing a murder investigation on your good friend,as well as sons!This is unbelievable!!Again.Thank You for allowing me the opportunity to join.

Keepthefaith

Welcome Keepthefaith! What an appropriate name   I just about to post, "Keep the Faith Monkeys!" Three things cannot long be hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth!

Welcome!!

[snoopy]

I think Beth, Dave, Jug, and Jossy know a lot more than they have said.
"Shock the world" is coming.

Nelson Odebur has shown the world, and especially the Aruban people that he cares nothing about them.  In his self righteous indignation he has ruined Aruba.  He's pouting because he wasn't in the loop about the arrest.  I guess Mos forgot to call him.  Mos knows the truth.  Man-up Mos.

[hotping]

First,and formost, i would like to thank the Scared monkeys team to allow me to join a group of people that truly do care.I came across this board yesterday after doing a little browsing.It is quite horrifying to see people continue to bash Natalee,as well as her family.Just starting to learn more and more about this case.Will someone truly do an investigative report on the where the history starts with Paulus and his cohorts??I for the life of me, can't understand how people can't see the problem with your friends doing a murder investigation on your good friend,as well as sons!This is unbelievable!!Again.Thank You for allowing me the opportunity to join.

Keepthefaith

Welcome Keepthefaith!

[SunnyinTX]

First,and formost, i would like to thank the Scared monkeys team to allow me to join a group of people that truly do care.I came across this board yesterday after doing a little browsing.It is quite horrifying to see people continue to bash Natalee,as well as her family.Just starting to learn more and more about this case.Will someone truly do an investigative report on the where the history starts with Paulus and his cohorts??I for the life of me, can't understand how people can't see the problem with your friends doing a murder investigation on your good friend,as well as sons!This is unbelievable!!Again.Thank You for allowing me the opportunity to join.

Keepthefaith

Welcome to SM

[Dihannah1]

KoolKatt and Keepthefaith!

[Keepthefaith]

I'm waiting!!How can i better understand the history of Paulus and his cohorts.I truly believe the Lord works in mysterious ways.Hurry up Jossy!!

[kooolkatt]

KoolKatt and Keepthefaith!

Thanks Dihannah1! I'm here everyday but I'm usually lurking and trying to keep up with you brilliant monkeys 

[Dihannah1]

I'm waiting!!How can i better understand the history of Paulus and his cohorts.I truly believe the Lord works in mysterious ways.Hurry up Jossy!!

If you go to the Natalee Holloway main thread (one back), it has documents, pictures, statements, anything  you can think of about the case over the past 2 1/2 yrs.

[Dayhiker]

I'm waiting!!How can i better understand the history of Paulus and his cohorts.I truly believe the Lord works in mysterious ways.Hurry up Jossy!!

Welcome Keepthefaith! Now that the case is closed there are many who don't have to hold back information any more. I am waiting for it too!

[Dihannah1]

KoolKatt and Keepthefaith!

Thanks Dihannah1! I'm here everyday but I'm usually lurking and trying to keep up with you brilliant monkeys 

I saw that,  I just hadn't got a chance to say Welcome to you before.

[kooolkatt]

KoolKatt and Keepthefaith!

Thanks Dihannah1! I'm here everyday but I'm usually lurking and trying to keep up with you brilliant monkeys 

I saw that,  I just hadn't got a chance to say Welcome to you before.

  Thank you kindly