Natalee Case Discussion #705 12/18 - 12/20/07

[Nut44x4]

Missing Teen's Family Blames Probe by Gwen at RU

Dec 19, 2:58 PM (ET)

By MICHAEL MELIA

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - The family of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway on Wednesday blamed mistakes by Aruban investigators for bringing the case to a dead end after more than two years of searching.

The girl's stepfather, Jug Twitty, said he believes witnesses in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba know what happened but are not coming forward, and he criticized prosecutors' decision to drop the case against the only known suspects.

"It's also I think a sad day for the Aruban people because the officials there are inept," Twitty told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Birmingham, Ala. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, referred a reporter's questions about the handling of the case to Jug Twitty.

The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three young men who were seen leaving a bar with Holloway on May 30, 2005, the night she vanished during a trip to the island with members of her Mountain Brook, Ala., high school graduating class.

Jug Twitty said the girl's mother was considering appealing the prosecutor's decision and hoped a new search by a Texas-based private group in the waters off Aruba might find Holloway's body.

"I can't say we're optimistic," Twitty said.

The three suspects - Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - were re-arrested last month and questioned for several days before their release. Prosecutors said they still believe the young men played a role in the girl's disappearance, but they cannot prove it without recovering her body. She was 18 when she vanished.

Detectives are assigned to review any new evidence that surfaces in the case, said John Pauly, a communications consultant for the prosecutor's office. Pauly added that prosecutors will detail some evidence at a news conference Thursday at the Aruban prime minister's office.

Van der Sloot, 20, a college student who was re-arrested in the Netherlands, declined to comment when reached Wednesday morning at his parents' home in Aruba.

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone.

Jug Twitty, who recently divorced Beth Twitty, said police botched the investigation from the start by waiting nine days to arrest the three suspects, giving them "plenty of time to cover their tracks."

"There are also people I believe that know what happened but won't say anything because they have to live on that island," he said.

Complaints the last two years about the handling of the investigation prompted calls for a tourism boycott by officials in the United States, including Alabama Gov. Bob Riley.

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071219/D8TKNGN00.html

[Observer]

Great to hear Jug Twitty again!! He loved Natalee and Beth a great deal and he most definetly would do anything for his step daughter. Jug is a fighter and I am behind him 1000%. As far as Joran goes his day will come and this is far from over!!

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone. Joran Van Der Sloot

[NM]

NM,
Are the scissors to be open or closed?

Hi Anna,
I'm not sure. I am doing closed.

[sirensong]

 "It is a very serious allegation. I will have it investigated," says Croes. The minister, a former lab technician, declines to comment on the allegations against the tobacco industry. "I have not been at my job long enough. I am not familiar with the record yet."

Rudy Croes, a former lab tech.  This was from an  article about the smuggling of cigarettes.

[Observer]

Joran told Dave he would talk to him when this is over. I think we have reached that point as he was just released as a suspect and the case has gone cold. Will the lyiing coward fulfill that promise he made to Dave Holloway? I wouldnt hold my breath!!

[Nut44x4]

Great to hear Jug Twitty again!! He loved Natalee and Beth a great deal and he most definetly would do anything for his step daughter. Jug is a fighter and I am behind him 1000%. As far as Joran goes his day will come and this is far from over!!

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone. Joran Van Der Sloot

Indeed.....he needs to head down to the casino/bars for a little pimpin' time...better things to do, indeed.

[Observer]

Amigoe.com (Sorry if posted already)

ORANJESTAD – The Public Prosecutor (OM) decided not to prosecute the three suspects in the Holloway-case.  The dossier does not have enough evidence for a violent crime or    culpable homicide.  Also the burden of proof for possible legal evidence is not sufficient, concluded the OM.

The OM informed the suspects Joran van der Sloot (20) and the brothers Deepak (24) and Satish Kalpoe (21) this morning that they are no longer being prosecuted.  Also the American lawyer of the parents of Natalee Holloway was informed.  The fact that the body of the missing teenager was never found is for the OM ‘an important shortage’ in the possible reconstruction of what had exactly happened.  “Because of that, the current dossier cannot give sufficient answer on the question which punishable facts took place in the night of Holloway’s disappearance, nor can it answer the question what the exact role of the suspects was in this”, said the OM.

That the suspects continued to be silent during the recent interrogations was also a disappointment for the OM, because they have assumed that the suspects would start talking this time.  The OM emphasizes though that if they find new important evidence, the prosecution will start again till the offences become barred, which is 6 years for culpable homicide and 12 years for manslaughter.   

The bailiff of the OM informed Lawyer Ariean de Bie of this between 11:00 and 12:00 this morning.  “That definitely concludes the case", said De Bie.  “All's well that ends well.  There was just not enough evidence.”

Yet, it could have just turned the other way.  “The OM was constantly talking about less serious facts, for which they could have been prosecuted.  But that didn’t happen.  They never had any evidence, just indications.  And could their indications have legalized this exercise? I wonder why they kept saying: we have evidence, we have evidence.”

[robots]

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.

so, you will be glad its over...huh......

well, ROUND 2 is coming up JERK FACE

you aint seen nothing yet 


have a nice day


 :cool:NOT

[Observer]

I see Pitbull is now blaming the same people who covered up Natalee's murder and protected her client. Says they unfairly implicated her client. Makes me sick because Natalee never had a fair or honest investigation and the same people she is blaming are covering up her clients crimes. This week the greaseballs are calling it a nifong investigation and there is zero evidence against Joran and never has been 




CBS NEWS VIDEOS

Interview with JQK
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3630927n

Aruba Ends Holloway Probe 
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3630924n

Holloway Case Defense Lawyer
Rosemarie Arnold, attorney for Joran van der Sloot, a prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, tells Harry Smith that a bungled prosecution unfairly implicated her client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3630910n

[Tylergal]

Turn TVs on, Old Executive Office Building, White House, is on fire.

Thank you for letting us know, Tyler.  I didn't have my tv on.  Fortunately, it seems to have turned out okay.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-19-voa51.cfm
A fire broke out Wednesday in the Executive Office Building in the White House compound, but Washington fire fighters quickly had the blaze under control.

Smoke billowed from the historic building as emergency crews rushed to the scene. Fire fighters broke windows, moved furniture to a balcony and sprayed water as they fought the blaze.


White House spokeswoman Dana Perino says the source of the fire may have been an electrical closet or telephone bank. She says the blaze was put out in 30 minutes.

The Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which houses White House staff, was evacuated.

The fire started in the suite of ceremonial offices of Vice President Dick Cheney. A White House spokesman said the vice president was across the way in the White House with President Bush at the time of the fire.

President Bush and Vice President Cheney later greeted fire fighters and Secret Service personnel on the scene.

Thank you, Muffy Bee.  This building (as I recall from my days there) took almost 20 years to construct and historically is second to none in this country.  It would have been very sad had this architecturally beautiful building turned to ashes, moreover its contents.  So happy no one perished in the fire or was injured.

[Tamikosmom]

Missing Teen's Family Blames Probe by Gwen at RU

Dec 19, 2:58 PM (ET)
 
By MICHAEL MELIA

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - The family of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway on Wednesday blamed mistakes by Aruban investigators for bringing the case to a dead end after more than two years of searching.

The girl's stepfather, Jug Twitty, said he believes witnesses in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba know what happened but are not coming forward, and he criticized prosecutors' decision to drop the case against the only known suspects.

"It's also I think a sad day for the Aruban people because the officials there are inept," Twitty told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Birmingham, Ala.   Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, referred a reporter's questions about the handling of the case to Jug Twitty.

The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three young men who were seen leaving a bar with Holloway on May 30, 2005, the night she vanished during a trip to the island with members of her Mountain Brook, Ala., high school graduating class.

Jug Twitty said the girl's mother was considering appealing the prosecutor's decision and hoped a new search by a Texas-based private group in the waters off Aruba might find Holloway's body.

"I can't say we're optimistic," Twitty said.

The three suspects - Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - were re-arrested last month and questioned for several days before their release. Prosecutors said they still believe the young men played a role in the girl's disappearance, but they cannot prove it without recovering her body. She was 18 when she vanished.

Detectives are assigned to review any new evidence that surfaces in the case, said John Pauly, a communications consultant for the prosecutor's office. Pauly added that prosecutors will detail some evidence at a news conference Thursday at the Aruban prime minister's office.

Van der Sloot, 20, a college student who was re-arrested in the Netherlands, declined to comment when reached Wednesday morning at his parents' home in Aruba.

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone.

Jug Twitty, who recently divorced Beth Twitty, said police botched the investigation from the start by waiting nine days to arrest the three suspects, giving them "plenty of time to cover their tracks."

"There are also people I believe that know what happened but won't say anything because they have to live on that island," he said.

Complaints the last two years about the handling of the investigation prompted calls for a tourism boycott by officials in the United States, including Alabama Gov. Bob Riley.

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071219/D8TKNGN00.html

Thank you Nut.

Being an eternal romantic ... I keep wishing ... keep hoping ... keep praying ...

Janet

+++++++++++

Jug Twitty
Scared Monkey FP
January 5, 2007

168. I HAVE READ ALL THE COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK I STILL LOVE BETH, MATT AND NATALEE. I WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM. I PRAY FOR CLOSURE EVERY NIGHT SO BETH CAN REST.
Comment by JUG TWITTY/January 8, 2007, 9:27 am

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/01/05/sad-news-from-mountain-brook-al-jug-and-beth-twitty-divorcing/


Jug Twitty
'Scarborough Country'
July 14, 2005

TWITTY: ... Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

[Keepthefaith]

Someone is going to spill the beans sooner or later,hopefully sooner.That's what happens when a bunch of thugs hang together.One person will eventually get mad at another for something and throw 'em under the bus.Thenm there gonna throw it in reverse!!HAHAHA

Keepthefaith

[Tylergal]

Missing Teen's Family Blames Probe by Gwen at RU

Dec 19, 2:58 PM (ET)

By MICHAEL MELIA

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - The family of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway on Wednesday blamed mistakes by Aruban investigators for bringing the case to a dead end after more than two years of searching.

Too bad, the sonofaditch didn't have better things to do when he was raping and murdering Natalee.  I hate him, his guts, his arms, his legs, his cocked eyes, his ugly curled lying lip, his big pig notes, his pig mother and sweating father.

The girl's stepfather, Jug Twitty, said he believes witnesses in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba know what happened but are not coming forward, and he criticized prosecutors' decision to drop the case against the only known suspects.

"It's also I think a sad day for the Aruban people because the officials there are inept," Twitty told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Birmingham, Ala. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, referred a reporter's questions about the handling of the case to Jug Twitty.

The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three young men who were seen leaving a bar with Holloway on May 30, 2005, the night she vanished during a trip to the island with members of her Mountain Brook, Ala., high school graduating class.

Jug Twitty said the girl's mother was considering appealing the prosecutor's decision and hoped a new search by a Texas-based private group in the waters off Aruba might find Holloway's body.

"I can't say we're optimistic," Twitty said.

The three suspects - Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - were re-arrested last month and questioned for several days before their release. Prosecutors said they still believe the young men played a role in the girl's disappearance, but they cannot prove it without recovering her body. She was 18 when she vanished.

Detectives are assigned to review any new evidence that surfaces in the case, said John Pauly, a communications consultant for the prosecutor's office. Pauly added that prosecutors will detail some evidence at a news conference Thursday at the Aruban prime minister's office.

Van der Sloot, 20, a college student who was re-arrested in the Netherlands, declined to comment when reached Wednesday morning at his parents' home in Aruba.

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone.

Jug Twitty, who recently divorced Beth Twitty, said police botched the investigation from the start by waiting nine days to arrest the three suspects, giving them "plenty of time to cover their tracks."

"There are also people I believe that know what happened but won't say anything because they have to live on that island," he said.

Complaints the last two years about the handling of the investigation prompted calls for a tourism boycott by officials in the United States, including Alabama Gov. Bob Riley.

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071219/D8TKNGN00.html

[Tylergal]

Missing Teen's Family Blames Probe by Gwen at RU

Dec 19, 2:58 PM (ET)

By MICHAEL MELIA

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - The family of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway on Wednesday blamed mistakes by Aruban investigators for bringing the case to a dead end after more than two years of searching.

Too bad, the sonofaditch didn't have better things to do when he was raping and murdering Natalee.  I hate him, his guts, his arms, his legs, his cocked eyes, his ugly curled lying lip, his big pig notes, his pig mother and sweating father.

The girl's stepfather, Jug Twitty, said he believes witnesses in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba know what happened but are not coming forward, and he criticized prosecutors' decision to drop the case against the only known suspects.

"It's also I think a sad day for the Aruban people because the officials there are inept," Twitty told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Birmingham, Ala. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, referred a reporter's questions about the handling of the case to Jug Twitty.

The Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said Tuesday it will not charge the three young men who were seen leaving a bar with Holloway on May 30, 2005, the night she vanished during a trip to the island with members of her Mountain Brook, Ala., high school graduating class.

Jug Twitty said the girl's mother was considering appealing the prosecutor's decision and hoped a new search by a Texas-based private group in the waters off Aruba might find Holloway's body.

"I can't say we're optimistic," Twitty said.

The three suspects - Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - were re-arrested last month and questioned for several days before their release. Prosecutors said they still believe the young men played a role in the girl's disappearance, but they cannot prove it without recovering her body. She was 18 when she vanished.

Detectives are assigned to review any new evidence that surfaces in the case, said John Pauly, a communications consultant for the prosecutor's office. Pauly added that prosecutors will detail some evidence at a news conference Thursday at the Aruban prime minister's office.

Van der Sloot, 20, a college student who was re-arrested in the Netherlands, declined to comment when reached Wednesday morning at his parents' home in Aruba.

"I'm sorry but I really have better things to do than this, OK?" he told the AP over the phone.

Jug Twitty, who recently divorced Beth Twitty, said police botched the investigation from the start by waiting nine days to arrest the three suspects, giving them "plenty of time to cover their tracks."

"There are also people I believe that know what happened but won't say anything because they have to live on that island," he said.

Complaints the last two years about the handling of the investigation prompted calls for a tourism boycott by officials in the United States, including Alabama Gov. Bob Riley.

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071219/D8TKNGN00.html

OKay, the quote was in the right place but it ended up wrong, so I will try again,.

Too bad, the sonofaditch didn't have better things to do when he was raping and murdering Natalee.  I hate him, his guts, his arms, his legs, his cocked eyes, his ugly curled lying lip, his big pig notes, his pig mother and sweating father.

[dennisintn]

NM,
Are the scissors to be open or closed?

Hi Anna,
I'm not sure. I am doing closed.

hey, hey, hey! you girls are 't planning on running with scissors, are you?  it'll go on your permanent record if i catch you doing that.
dammitdennis

[MuffyBee]

NM,
Are the scissors to be open or closed?

Hi Anna,
I'm not sure. I am doing closed.

hey, hey, hey! you girls are 't planning on running with scissors, are you?  it'll go on your permanent record if i catch you doing that.
dammitdennis

A boy I went to elementary school with (named Dennis  ) was running with scissors and put his eye out, and wore a glass eye.  It can really happen...

[Tylergal]

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.

Mr. Herbert, if you can make this go away, we will promote you from receptionist to night clerk.  How's that?!? 

[Tamikosmom]

Someone is going to spill the beans sooner or later,hopefully sooner.That's what happens when a bunch of thugs hang together.One person will eventually get mad at another for something and throw 'em under the bus.Thenm there gonna throw it in reverse!!HAHAHA

Keepthefaith

Keepthefaith

It would only take one who had a role in the events encompassing that fateful morning when Natalee Holloway went missing ... it would only take one who was aware of or took part in the coverup ... to bow ... to reveal all ... to seek God's forgiveness .. to seek the family's forgiveness.

Art Wood said it best ....

Janet

++++++++++

Art Wood
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
December 1, 2005

WOOD: ..... The reason this case could still be solved is because there are so many people involved in Natalee's disappearance and in the disposal of her body. When somebody talks, they're going to all go down. This is like a house of cards.

[dennisintn]

"We'll be glad when it's out of the media ... We've suffered enough," said John Herbert, a receptionist at the Arubiana Inn on the island of white sand beaches off the coast of Venezuela.

Mr. Herbert, if you can make this go away, we will promote you from receptionist to night clerk.  How's that?!? 

another fine example of the friendly, smiling, warm hearted, tourist loving arubans - till the tips run out.
dennisintn

[Kiwi]

This was posted on the FP.  Wonder if Paulus is practicing law again?  Bet he has advised Joran's lawyer (wonder if that would be his Aruban lawyer or his American lawyer) to be sure and file a complaint against the searchers just in case they find Natalee:


Amsterdam 020 on December 19th, 2007 5:41 am

Please don’t believe everything that Fox is telling you!

In the Aruban media as well as the Dutch media it has been confirmed that (for now) the investigation is indeed closed.

For everyone’s understanding; this does not mean that the person(s) responsible for the dissapearance of Natalee will never be convicted. However new and strong evidence shall have to be presented in order to prosecute the suspect(s).

And again; neither the Dutch people nor the Dutch government have anything to do with the way the investigation was conducted. Only because the Aruban government invited the Dutch police detectives, they were able to get involved.

The Dutch media also report that the attorney of Joran van der Sloot is not happy with the fact that the Aruban prosecutors are not involved in the (private) boat search because of the risk that evidence is planted.

This last line has not been actually verified has it? If Joran's attorney is worried that a water search would turn up anything, then she is actually is in the water. If he left her on the beach, then digging in the sand should worry him more.