Natalee Case Discussion #705 12/18 - 12/20/07

[ala_gunslinger]

Good evening everyone! I highly doubt with the number of people aboard the Persistence (including Dateline NBC) that they would be able to say evidence was "planted". 

Besides the fact that science today can determine a lot of factors.  Let's first find Natalee and bring her home to her mom and dad and the USA! Keep praying for the Persistence and the crew! They are a very determined bunch of individuals! And, keep reading oceanexplorer Kyle's updates!

Have a great evening! God Bless!

thanks for bringing this over *******......wonder what julia and the rejects will come up to disprove dateline....lol

WOW! 

Witnesses that aren't afraid to talk!

What a concept aruba!!!

[robots]

Rudy Croes = Pimpmaster General

CLEAN UP in AISLE 5, robots is puking from laughing so hard 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Rudy Croes = Pimpmaster General

CLEAN UP in AISLE 5, robots is puking from laughing so hard 

  And the visual of Rudy puts me right next to you...not laughing, though...

[Magnolia]

Posted by Lazlo....this could get fun.

Lazlo Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:51 pm   
Conflict between OM and Justice Ministry?

Since it seems to be correct that the OM will give a Press Conference tomorrow, I guess them reveiling what the new evidence was might also be true.

It seems there is a conflict between OM and Justice Ministry imo, which could explain the planned Press Conference tomorrow and things said by both Mos and Croes:

Rudy Croes (about actions of OM) : the international face of Aruba been damanged again"
Rudy Croes: considers the contact between him and the OM about the recent developments in the Hollowaycase as an abnormal working situation.

Mos: A number of people though were more worried about the image of the island then solving crimes.
Mos: Felonycases seem less important then (inferieur to) economical interests; then you can aswell shut down police force and judicial authorities.
Mos: In individual felonycases like this, the OM takes the decissions and the minister should not work himself against that.

Also see comments Jorg in Amigoe.

With all the allegations made about the way the OM handled things and them having nothing at all, it seems they are fed up, and if FOX is right about them reveiling what the new evidence is/was, maybe they want to show what they do have, unusual but maybe they prefer to officially announce it themselves above Greta being given the docs and tell it the way she pleases on FOX.

Could be interesting tomorrow, especially Mos seems mad (see quotes above) wonder if he will do the Press Conference. IMO 

[ala_gunslinger]

Posted by Lazlo....this could get fun.

Lazlo Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:51 pm   
Conflict between OM and Justice Ministry?

Since it seems to be correct that the OM will give a Press Conference tomorrow, I guess them reveiling what the new evidence was might also be true.

It seems there is a conflict between OM and Justice Ministry imo, which could explain the planned Press Conference tomorrow and things said by both Mos and Croes:

Rudy Croes (about actions of OM) : the international face of Aruba been damanged again"
Rudy Croes: considers the contact between him and the OM about the recent developments in the Hollowaycase as an abnormal working situation.

Mos: A number of people though were more worried about the image of the island then solving crimes.
Mos: Felonycases seem less important then (inferieur to) economical interests; then you can aswell shut down police force and judicial authorities.
Mos: In individual felonycases like this, the OM takes the decissions and the minister should not work himself against that.

Also see comments Jorg in Amigoe.

With all the allegations made about the way the OM handled things and them having nothing at all, it seems they are fed up, and if FOX is right about them reveiling what the new evidence is/was, maybe they want to show what they do have, unusual but maybe they prefer to officially announce it themselves above Greta being given the docs and tell it the way she pleases on FOX.

Could be interesting tomorrow, especially Mos seems mad (see quotes above) wonder if he will do the Press Conference. IMO 

I may be behind on my *TLA's.

But WTF is om?


*  TLA - a TLA for three and four letter acronyms.


I miss talkin to ya'll!

[ala_gunslinger]

Posted by Lazlo....this could get fun.

Lazlo Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:51 pm   
Conflict between OM and Justice Ministry?

Since it seems to be correct that the OM will give a Press Conference tomorrow, I guess them reveiling what the new evidence was might also be true.

It seems there is a conflict between OM and Justice Ministry imo, which could explain the planned Press Conference tomorrow and things said by both Mos and Croes:

Rudy Croes (about actions of OM) : the international face of Aruba been damanged again"
Rudy Croes: considers the contact between him and the OM about the recent developments in the Hollowaycase as an abnormal working situation.

Mos: A number of people though were more worried about the image of the island then solving crimes.
Mos: Felonycases seem less important then (inferieur to) economical interests; then you can aswell shut down police force and judicial authorities.
Mos: In individual felonycases like this, the OM takes the decissions and the minister should not work himself against that.

Also see comments Jorg in Amigoe.

With all the allegations made about the way the OM handled things and them having nothing at all, it seems they are fed up, and if FOX is right about them reveiling what the new evidence is/was, maybe they want to show what they do have, unusual but maybe they prefer to officially announce it themselves above Greta being given the docs and tell it the way she pleases on FOX.

Could be interesting tomorrow, especially Mos seems mad (see quotes above) wonder if he will do the Press Conference. IMO 

I may be behind on my *TLA's.

But WTF is om?


*  TLA - a TLA for three and four letter acronyms.


I miss talkin to ya'll!

Sorry!  make that two and three.

[Observer]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

[Magnolia]

I think it is like our Attorney General.  Not sure though.

[Magnolia]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

I remember the article, but don't have it.  Janet probaby does.
I do remember it being said that the girls in the houses in San Nicholas
were brought in from Columbia and rotated about every three weeks.

[Tylergal]

Monkeys, if Rudy is engaged in allowing prostitution in Aruba, who is promoting it and profiting from it besides Rudy?  Let's not blanket it with AHATA, who we know profits as men are said to go there from NJ, NY, Connecticut and Illinois for love-you-short-time affairs, but WHO is the madame, who promotes and gains from the illegal prostitution and bondage of under-aged females?

I think Rudy's Ho Houses are in Venezuela, according to the Jossy
article and one of his madams runs the business....so it can't be Renho.
Does anybody remember hearing in the very beginning that
Lorenzo had a couple of Ho Houses in San Nicholas?
I have that in a corner of my mind.

Yes, I heard that, heard that he had moved his business up a model with houses that made movies.  Not sure how much of that to believe as some of the marauders were wanting to take the light off them and shine it on Lorenzo.

[ala_gunslinger]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

I'm sorry about this (not!).

You just left this hangin out there so I have to crack on it!

I hope ya'll don't take offense, but...

One of them is the other ones bitch!

[Observer]

NBC13HD Local News Video (Great Video)

http://www.nbc13.com/gulfcoastwest/vtm/video.html

[Tylergal]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

Those pictures were in Diario for #1 and I think also in National Enquirer #2.  They were underaged girls who were supposedly going to have domestic jobs and found themselves being held captive in white slavery.

[wreck]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

I'm sorry about this (not!).

You just left this hangin out there so I have to crack on it!

I hope ya'll don't take offense, but...

One of them is the other ones bitch!

[wreck]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

I'm sorry about this (not!).

You just left this hangin out there so I have to crack on it!

I hope ya'll don't take offense, but...

One of them is the other ones bitch!

 

[Observer]

I am suprised no one commented on this video. The Pitbull is looking dumber as this case goes on and certainly does not live up to her knickname. Never bite the hand that feeds you 

Holloway Case Defense Lawyer
Rosemarie Arnold, attorney for Joran van der Sloot, a prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, tells Harry Smith that a bungled prosecution unfairly implicated her client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3630910n

[ala_gunslinger]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

I'm sorry about this (not!).

You just left this hangin out there so I have to crack on it!

I hope ya'll don't take offense, but...

One of them is the other ones bitch!

 

Thanks for clearin that up for me sir!

[Tylergal]

I am suprised no one commented on this video. The Pitbull is looking dumber as this case goes on and certainly does not live up to her knickname. Never bite the hand that feeds you 

Holloway Case Defense Lawyer
Rosemarie Arnold, attorney for Joran van der Sloot, a prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, tells Harry Smith that a bungled prosecution unfairly implicated her client.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3630910n

Okay, I watched it.  Whose bull is she?

[Observer]

Does anyone still have the Diario page from 2005 of Rudy Croes bringing in those three women as maids? I believe they accused him of forcing them into Prostitution and holding them against there will for him and his friends. I know Rudy spends a lot of time in Colombia and I believe thats where these 3 young women were from. It would not suprise me in the least if he is involved in Prostitution in Venezuela as well.

What I really want to know is what is his connection to Paul Van Der Sloot?

Those pictures were in Diario for #1 and I think also in National Enquirer #2.  They were underaged girls who were supposedly going to have domestic jobs and found themselves being held captive in white slavery.

I don't remember alot but I do remember the picture quite well and the accusations against Rudy Croes. Never heard anything more about it or anything in the NE. Just interesting that the minister of injustice would be involved in that.

[Magnolia]

NBC13HD Local News Video (Great Video)

http://www.nbc13.com/gulfcoastwest/vtm/video.html

Renho sounded like she was slurrrrring her words.
I guess it was coctail hour in Aruba.