May 25, 2020, 02:34:00 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
 
   Home   Help Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #706 12/20 -  (Read 255741 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
crazybabyborg
Guest
« Reply #380 on: December 20, 2007, 10:09:53 PM »

Jug, you said you read here.  I just want you to know that from the beginning and until now, I think you're amazing.  You've seen through all the crap...and called a spade a spade.  Thanks for coming on to talk.

I think he reads the front page more often that the forum. We might be better off with front page posts to Jug.

Well, Klaas? Can't you post to him to come on in???? Approve him?
Logged
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 15882



« Reply #381 on: December 20, 2007, 10:09:57 PM »

I SAW THROUGH HAN (POS) MOS FROM DAY ONE.  THIS WAS A SPITEFUL ACT BY ARUBA TO GET BACK AT THE FAMILY.  I HOPE THAT ISLAND SINKS.
Logged
Nut44x4
Maine - USA
Global Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 18799


RIP Grumpy Cat :( I will miss you.


« Reply #382 on: December 20, 2007, 10:10:18 PM »

Great show DANA!  Thanks JUG!

That was a good one.....thank you both!!
Logged

Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware/Of giving your heart to a dog to tear  -- Rudyard Kipling

One who doesn't trust is never deceived...

'I remained too much inside my head and ended up losing my mind' -Edgar Allen Poe
wreck
Monkey All Star Jr.
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7781



« Reply #383 on: December 20, 2007, 10:11:10 PM »

Jug, you said you read here.  I just want you to know that from the beginning and until now, I think you're amazing.  You've seen through all the crap...and called a spade a spade.  Thanks for coming on to talk.

I think he reads the front page more often that the forum. We might be better off with front page posts to Jug.
Maybe, but said he knows all our names and reads but doesn't post. I would guess he reads both
Logged

Lala'sMom
Monkey All Star
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 13812


« Reply #384 on: December 20, 2007, 10:11:30 PM »

Jug confirms wha we all knew. Van Der Straaten is the reason this wasnt solved the first week. He's dirty and he started the Cover Up!!!

Yep, he's dirty... Cool
Logged
Frijole
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 4262



« Reply #385 on: December 20, 2007, 10:12:06 PM »

Jug says that he never posts, but that he knows us and reads every post, and that's how Beth keeps up with things! GREAT JOB DANA! THANK YOU JUG!!!

Isn't that cool!?  I always wondered.  Glad to know and Jug, thanks for speaking to us.  We have so many unanswered questions.  Too bad Jug wasn't allowed to question the aholes in jail.  This would be solved.  They'd talk, cry and wimper in their cells. GRRRRR it pisses me off.

Anyway - it was great to hear from Jug again!
Logged
IBE
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3554



« Reply #386 on: December 20, 2007, 10:12:39 PM »

JUG: Beth and Dave asked Mos questions for 4 hours and he wouldn't answer.

He thinks Anita knows something and that Paulus and Joran control her. She's a very weak person.

IMO maybe she doesn't want to become "disappeared"
Logged

Freedom is not free: it also takes ethics, character, accountability, responsibility and courage! Freedom for Scared Monkeys: donate to Red's legal fees.
crazybabyborg
Guest
« Reply #387 on: December 20, 2007, 10:13:06 PM »

We have learned quite a bit here from that press conference by Mos and some of it is damning and new. That information has been gathered and released by someone. That's more than Aruban authorities have ever done.
Logged
Dayhiker
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3788



« Reply #388 on: December 20, 2007, 10:13:22 PM »

Someone needs to send Anita a new bra.....along with a camera

That is a freakin ugly picture, they should both be ashamed.
They both are two baggers.


You'll have to catch the bags first.  Wink
Logged

* * * * * * * * * *
"ARUBA...THE CREAM OF THE CRAP IN THE CARIBBEAN."
Nut44x4
Maine - USA
Global Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 18799


RIP Grumpy Cat :( I will miss you.


« Reply #389 on: December 20, 2007, 10:13:25 PM »

So the Kalpoes are having a press conference tomorrow for real? 

They are going to unvail to the world that Satish is not a mute. Rolling Eyes

Logged

Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware/Of giving your heart to a dog to tear  -- Rudyard Kipling

One who doesn't trust is never deceived...

'I remained too much inside my head and ended up losing my mind' -Edgar Allen Poe
Dayhiker
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3788



« Reply #390 on: December 20, 2007, 10:15:19 PM »

We have learned quite a bit here from that press conference by Mos and some of it is damning and new. That information has been gathered and released by someone. That's more than Aruban authorities have ever done.


I agree with that CBB. Mos hung them in the court of public opinion today. He just didn't get the job done in court.
Logged

* * * * * * * * * *
"ARUBA...THE CREAM OF THE CRAP IN THE CARIBBEAN."
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 15882



« Reply #391 on: December 20, 2007, 10:15:44 PM »

So the Kalpoes are having a press conference tomorrow for real? 

This is Taco's directing of events. I guarentee it. Those attys are being puppeted by Taco as director of the entire "defense" strategies.

Joe Tacopina is a dumb @#$*ing Brooklynite with no class.  He can take his hand made mafia suits and shove them.  There will never be a day when that asshole fools me with his dumb street toughguy mafia antics.

I think I better get out of here because I'm getting madder and madder as I post.  Laughing
Logged
Miss-Underestimated
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 42



« Reply #392 on: December 20, 2007, 10:16:48 PM »

Someone needs to send Anita a new bra.....along with a camera

That is a freakin ugly picture, they should both be ashamed.
They both are two baggers.


You'll have to catch the bags first.  Wink

When they have relations she wears a bag on her head  and he wears a bag on his, in case one of the bags fall off.
Logged

no more perfume for the pigs
IBE
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3554



« Reply #393 on: December 20, 2007, 10:17:27 PM »

Jug said that the cops kept asking me if Natalee was epileptic....

She must have had a seizure from the drugs they gave her or a head injury and the suspects saw that.
.

All these little tid bids prove to me that she was alive at the Sloots.  Paulus Van der Sloot let Natalee die.  This would make him the murderer.

Wasn't Paulus Van der Sloot "charged" originally with premeditated murder? Later to have Karen Janssen write a letter letting him off?
Logged

Freedom is not free: it also takes ethics, character, accountability, responsibility and courage! Freedom for Scared Monkeys: donate to Red's legal fees.
Dayhiker
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3788



« Reply #394 on: December 20, 2007, 10:17:50 PM »

Jug confirms wha we all knew. Van Der Straaten is the reason this wasnt solved the first week. He's dirty and he started the Cover Up!!!

Yep, he's dirty... Cool


Van der Straten is the biggest piece of shit for a cop there ever was with Jacobs coming in a close second.
Logged

* * * * * * * * * *
"ARUBA...THE CREAM OF THE CRAP IN THE CARIBBEAN."
Dayhiker
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3788



« Reply #395 on: December 20, 2007, 10:18:52 PM »

Someone needs to send Anita a new bra.....along with a camera

That is a freakin ugly picture, they should both be ashamed.
They both are two baggers.


You'll have to catch the bags first.  Wink


When they have relations she wears a bag on her head  and he wears a bag on his, in case one of the bags fall off.

 Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Logged

* * * * * * * * * *
"ARUBA...THE CREAM OF THE CRAP IN THE CARIBBEAN."
mrs. red
Monkey All Star Jr.
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 9318



WWW
« Reply #396 on: December 20, 2007, 10:19:34 PM »

We have learned quite a bit here from that press conference by Mos and some of it is damning and new. That information has been gathered and released by someone. That's more than Aruban authorities have ever done.

so all it says to me is that (a) they have proof positive that those four did it., and (b) they could care less about Americans in Aruba, so why should we care what happens to onehellhole island and (C) they are still stupid enough to think this is going away
Logged

To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe.
Author: Anatole
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 74255



WWW
« Reply #397 on: December 20, 2007, 10:20:16 PM »

TRANSCRIPT - by Heli at RU:

Jug Twitty with Dana Pretzer TRANSCRIPT

Dana Pretzer Show

** Because I know you're all anxious to hear what Juggles had to say
I'm posting a rough transcript with the flavour of what was said. When
the podcast comes up later, I'll transcribe a verbatim transcript and post
it tomorrow. I haven't proofread it, so please forgive how rough it is
but I think you'll get the highlights.


Dana:

King of the flip flops Mos, explained evidence he based himself on .. testimony of a girl 4 hours after nat disappeared, new interprestation of laptops that contradicts the timelines.

Tomorrow Kalpoes holding Press Conference

Jug

Could have solved it by the 3 or 5th day, we gave them all the invofmation, my friends, Beth's friends we were digging and they didn't act on it. I feel sorry for people of Aruba, they have a government that flip flops like they do. All gov't officlas have any backbone, we can't trust any of them, none of them would help us. Jossy was the only one who would help us because he has power of ink, he's not afraid of anybody

Dana:

When they release them the gutless prosecutor says they're going to close it, now they say it's not true, these guys are still persons of interest. The contradictions just keep on coming

Jug:

We just sit, hope and pray, thank goodness to the guys at Scared Monkeys and Fox News, they kept it alive. Everybody down there wants it to go away. I know that J2K's and Paul all know where Natalee is and what happened to her, it's a shame that theyr'e such cowards, Several times when the interviewed me, the cops asked me about Natalee, if she was epileptic and crazy things like that.

They took her out, put something in her drink, she flipped out and she died ... so why did they tell all those lies



Dana:

Jossy Mansur

Jug:

He's a man of his word, I've been tohis house, met his wife, his sons went to same military school, I trust him

Dana:

Julia Renfro

Jug

She has her own agenda and her whole deal she ran us around, she has some kind of connection to Paul,

Paul

is a coward, I'm a father I'm a very good father, this man is not and i see his face at night he's evil

Dennis Jaco

A puppet, he's dirty I could tell the first day the man's string pulled by somebody

Dompig, I never sat down with him face to face

Oduber, very wishy washy, sat with Beth and I we had dinner with wife and him and gave him confidential information that he was flabbergasted about but he did nothing, He really has no power down there really

Dana:

One thing that maybe you'd like to say that we've never heard, seen or read about

Jug:

I will say I think van der Stratten is someone connected and he's the reason they didn't solve the case. I sat in private meetings after I read some reports , I asked him some things about the colour of her underwear ... he denied it and so I knew he was covering it up b/c I read it in some statements. I knew then I told Beth this isn't good, he's bad, he's dirty, this case should have been solved. A lot of people know but they're too afraid to come out because

Dana:

All the investigators, van Zandt and other, it's such a simple case that should have been dealt with easily.

A new york lawyer, Tcopina that's on the cable news channels on a nightly basis, representing hismelf as Joran's lawyer, but from Aruba they say he's not his attorney. What do you think about him

Jug:

Typical NY lawyer, the people in america recognize the same thing, he's just a real smart alec, he wants his name out there.

Dana:

The cable news show sjust cater to him all the time.

We know there's a search taking place, we hope and pray it comes up successful, but one question I have from a listerner

Do you have a theory of where her body was disposed and who assited

Jug:

I don't have a theory, something did happen. when we met there that night at van der Sloot's Joran kep ttelling me we dropped her off and she stumbled and hit her head. My friends went to the headmaster and he said she may ahve hit her head on the rocks when she was watching the sharks. My theory is they gave her something, she reacted to it, flipped out, tried to fight her way out of it, fell out of the car, but I don't know what they did with the body.

Dana:

Reports of blood in Deepak's car, did you see anything in the car

Jug:

I did see it, if I had one chance to do something different, I had an entourage with me that night, we had that car surrounded and I should have opened that trunk b/c I'm sure there was evidence in there.

Soemers told me there was fluid in the headliner of the car. I guarantee you that evidence got buried somewhere.

Dana:

Police officers helped with info, how much did you learn from them and who shut them up

Jug:

Hard to figure out, I kept asking them the officers who went to the van der Sloots that night. They never asked those cops until way later on about what went on that night and there was no record kept of it. It's crazy

Dana:

Art Wood says Koen's boat was used to take her out to sea.

Jug:

Very well could have been; she's not on that island, the only other thing that could have happened is she went to the incinerator.

Dana:

Do you beleive she was taken to their house, do you believe the body was there when you were there

Jug:

Yes I do, I definitely believe she was taken to that house, if she wsan't in that house, she was close. When they came back that night at 3 a.m. they're all sweaty, they weren't at no casino I can guarantee you, they were getting Natalee out of that house is what they were doing.

Dana:

The FBI involvment and the government of US, have you received enough assistance from your own government

Jug:

We did in the beginning, the FBI was there, a couple of agents I got to know real well, but there was nothing they could do b/c the aruban government shut them down. the FBI couldn't understand what they were saying. They were sent to observe, the couldn't really offer anything

Dana:

Is there an appeal process, something you can do now

Jug:

I don't know, their justice system down there is so screwed up 75% of the people down there don't understand it. It's so hard to follow what they do, I believe if they found Natalee's body unless you could find a video of J2K's doing something ot her, they wouldn't convict them

Dana:

Drug involvement, high profile media people saying that Ntalee died of a drug overdose, all this kind of nonsense. What have you been told as far as the rumours of drug involvement. There as probably a tampered with drink

Jug:

I know Natalee was not into drugs at all, Natalee was a goody two shoes, more so than 90% of the kids on that trip and I know how those kids act. I don't think Natalee was involved with drugs, they could have put something in her drinks. They kept questioning me about her medical history and that's why they kept asking me abou ther medical history becuase she flipped out

Dana:

Someone obviously knows something, is there still a reward available. Can we keep pressure on somebody to come fowar

Jug:

We though $1 Million dollars would have brough somebody forward but nothing. It must be big, going right to top since nobody has come forward. You know they know, Deepak and Satish and all those guys know. I don't think they put enough pressure on them

Dana:

When Beth and DAve went down recently Beth was interrogated for 4 hours about Natalee.

Jug:

We talked about it last night, but nothing like she was interrogated, she said that the prosecutor lied to them and told them about new evidence. They sat with him and aske dhim questions for 4 hours and he wouldn't answer any of them

Dana:

Anita van der Sloot, some of the comments she made to Beth were absolutely, raised the hair on th back of your neck. What's her involvement

Jug;

She knows something, she's just there to I'm sure Paul and Joran control her and I don't know how she can live with it. She's a very weak person

Dana:

Your thoughts and feelings aboutr Natalee not being there

Jug

It's really hard, Natalee was a great girl I love Natalee and Matt to death, Aruba is a sad place, whoever down there is pulling all these strings .. for him to come out with this right before Thanksgiving.

It's all timing down there, I did a couple of interviews and then they said oh no, no we're not going to close the investigation.

I appreciated all the scared monkeys, I never post on there but I know every one of the people who post there and I read there all the time.

Logged
crazybabyborg
Guest
« Reply #398 on: December 20, 2007, 10:20:26 PM »

Greta's on but I haven't heard any coverage of the case yet. Anyone know if there has been anything on CNN?
Logged
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 18149



« Reply #399 on: December 20, 2007, 10:20:31 PM »

Great show, Dana!

Jug still does just the best interview!  He always did in the early days of this investigation as well.  Covers lots of material quickly.

Excellent questions, too, Dana.

Logged

PERSONA NON GRATA

All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts.  I am doing the best I can with the information available.

Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Use of this web site in any manner signifies unconditional acceptance, without exception, of our terms of use.
Powered by SMF 1.1.13 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC
 
Page created in 5.533 seconds with 19 queries.