Natalee Case Discussion #706 12/20 -

[Red]

Pretty disgusting. Just a few hours after Joran said they left Natalee at the beach one of them writes in a email she is dead. How is this not incriminating evidence?

Mos has rested everything on the fact that there is no body and thus in fact there can be no crime (hmm ... where have we heard those words before?) Now we hear that one of the suspects say that she was dead. The fact that they need an actual body shows just what a Neanderthal country and legal system they have.

"Unless he finds a body in the bathroom of one of these kids, there's no way in hell they can arrest them anymore." Wix said.

I do not need to see JVDS's lips moving to know he is talking and thus lying.

These people know damn well that Natalee is dead and who did it. Simple deductive reasoning and putting 1 and 1 together is impossible to do in the anti-world. In Aruba it would appear that 1+1 = 5

[Observer]

Dec. 20: MSNBC discusses email hours after Natalee dissapeared.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/#22344680

Towards the end of this clip the reporter says that in the polis car tape Joran says he hopes they find her alive.  If I remember correctly Joran said he would laugh if they found the girl alive.  Anyone else remember this?

Yes he did say that. Deepak also said you will get 15 years if they find the girl. Also said if they find the girl they will see the sh**.

In this interview the reporter says later they may release who said Natalee was dead a lilttle bit later.

July 11, 2005 Jossy Mansur "Joran Confessed 2nd day in detention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgvT5bXzcmg

Yup,Strange that Jossy or anyone else in Aruba never speaks of the confession. I guess they want everyone to forget about this. We saw in the police tapes it was Deepak who accused Joran of mentioning burying. I am convinced this is the real deal.


“They Buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts"

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1260

According to information that DIARIO is receiving, when Joran van der Sloot was detained he started crying during interrogation and he even told officers that they buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen hutsIt could be deduced that he doesn’t remember precisely where, but in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts, the elder Kalpoe brother buried Natalee. He told police that he would cooperate but that didn’t last long.

As for the Kalpoe Brothers, they also made fun of our authority because they simply told the cops: “No Body means No Case”.

[Anna]

Pretty disgusting. Just a few hours after Joran said they left Natalee at the beach one of them writes in a email she is dead. How is this not incriminating evidence?

Mos has rested everything on the fact that there is no body and thus in fact there can be no crime (hmm ... where have we heard those words before?) Now we hear that one of the suspects say that she was dead. The fact that they need an actual body shows just what a Neanderthal country and legal system they have.

"Unless he finds a body in the bathroom of one of these kids, there's no way in hell they can arrest them anymore." Wix said.

I do not need to see JVDS's lips moving to know he is talking and thus lying.

These people know damn well that Natalee is dead and who did it. Simple deductive reasoning and putting 1 and 1 together is impossible to do in the anti-world. In Aruba it would appear that 1+1 = 5

But note that Wix is no longer saying just no body but that should one be found (nervous ???) it must be connected to the suspects.

Interesting.

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[Observer]

Deepak confirms in the Police car tapes that Joran confessed to burying Natalee at the fisherman huts. That confirms the Confession made on June 10th 2005

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Police car tapes

Deepak: I want them to find the girl. You are going to tell shit about me that I have buried the girl at fishermans hut
Joran: Who has said about burying? I didn't say anything about burying.
Deepak: That's what you have stated. Stop with that bullshit.
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July 11, 2005 Jossy Mansur "Joran Confessed 2nd day in detention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgvT5bXzcmg
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“They Buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts"

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1260

[truthseeker2]

Pretty disgusting. Just a few hours after Joran said they left Natalee at the beach one of them writes in a email she is dead. How is this not incriminating evidence?

Mos has rested everything on the fact that there is no body and thus in fact there can be no crime (hmm ... where have we heard those words before?) Now we hear that one of the suspects say that she was dead. The fact that they need an actual body shows just what a Neanderthal country and legal system they have.

"Unless he finds a body in the bathroom of one of these kids, there's no way in hell they can arrest them anymore." Wix said.

I do not need to see JVDS's lips moving to know he is talking and thus lying.

These people know damn well that Natalee is dead and who did it. Simple deductive reasoning and putting 1 and 1 together is impossible to do in the anti-world. In Aruba it would appear that 1+1 = 5

Interesting.....wasn't there a video out there early on with a girl covered in blood in a bathtub and some people referring to her as Natalee?  So is this guy mocking the entire situation?

Yes...they know she is dead.  And they know who is responsible.  Van Der Straten said he knew that back in June 2005.  He said he knew the 'facts of the case' and the reporter he was talking to didn't.  Why hasn't Van Der Straten been brought back into this to answer for his 'mistakes'?

[truthseeker2]

Pretty disgusting. Just a few hours after Joran said they left Natalee at the beach one of them writes in a email she is dead. How is this not incriminating evidence?

Mos has rested everything on the fact that there is no body and thus in fact there can be no crime (hmm ... where have we heard those words before?) Now we hear that one of the suspects say that she was dead. The fact that they need an actual body shows just what a Neanderthal country and legal system they have.

"Unless he finds a body in the bathroom of one of these kids, there's no way in hell they can arrest them anymore." Wix said.

I do not need to see JVDS's lips moving to know he is talking and thus lying.

These people know damn well that Natalee is dead and who did it. Simple deductive reasoning and putting 1 and 1 together is impossible to do in the anti-world. In Aruba it would appear that 1+1 = 5

But note that Wix is no longer saying just no body but that should one be found (nervous ???) it must be connected to the suspects.

Interesting.

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Like I said...if they find Natalee in the ocean these degenerates will try to claim the body was planted there by the searchers.  That's how they do everything on the desolate rock.  They will never prosecute anyone for Natalee's death.  That's how things work in Aruba.

[Altruist]

Personally, I think the OM's office "Hans Mos" & "Karen Jannsen tested the waters (the judiciary) & found it to be FIXED IN FAVOR OF THE SUSPECTS.  No point in prosecuting as they see a NOT GUILTY coming from the BIASED PAID FOR JUDGES.  In the event of such a finding from the PAID FOR JUDICIARY the suspects would NEVER be subjected to any findings of truth.

At least Hans Mos appears to have tried & is dealing with the reality that the FIX IS IN & HAS BEEN FROM THE START.  Remember the masked porn in the vehicle with the suspects, how do we know who is behind those masks, it could be anybody even those that wear robes. 

Vigilante justice is the only justice that will prevail in favor of Natalee Holloway, imo.  If this had been my loved one it would have already been taken care of, I would have taken my chances with God to protect others in my loved ones name.

[Anna]

Mos has never said there was any evidence of any corpse disposal by any other than Kalpoes.  Since Joran was supposedly at the casino, and later turns out he phones Deepak to come and get him there, it would seem that Deepak's car was at the Sloot compound when Beth landed, then left before she arrived with CCroes and the others.

Why was Deepak there without Joran? 

[klaasend]

[robots]

aruba wanted this case to go away

it will go away -

BUT not in our hearts - not in our minds and not in our souls

but in their SICK TWISTED minds it will go away and with it will go their tourism


be careful what you wish for aruba

cause you will get it and then some

[Nut44x4]

I notice 24ora isn't flashing any banners of breaking news of the Mos speech. Was it even telecast on Aruban TV?

[klaasend]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Lazlo Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:02 pm   
OM had 2 new witnesses (acc to the Dutch media/ANP)

Two new witness statements were the reason for the OM to re-arrest the 3 suspects in the Holloway case.

One female witness told investigators that she got a phonecall from one of the witnesses in the night that Natalee disappeared an heared by his voice something was wrong, according to the OM on Aruba.

The new witness said that in less then 6 hours after Holloway was last seen alive she got a phonecall from one of the ex-suspects. She noticed something was wrong she told the investigation team.

When she asked what was wrong he answered that he did not want to bring her into trouble, "what has happened I cannot tell over the phone".

An old chat session was traced in which one of the suspects wrote Natalee no longer was alive.

There also was a statement from someone who described the behavior of one of the 3 suspects on the day after Natalee had disappeared.
That also resulted in indirect evidence.

Mos insist the case is not closed and every new lead will be investigated.

Source ANP and Volkskrant link/Trouw link 
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article489149.ece/OM_Aruba_had_twee_nieuwe_getuigen_Holloway-zaak
http://www.trouw.nl/laatstenieuws/laatstenieuws/article874861.ece/OM_Verdachte_zei_dat_Holloway_dood_is

[robots]

Personally, I think the OM's office "Hans Mos" & "Karen Jannsen tested the waters (the judiciary) & found it to be FIXED IN FAVOR OF THE SUSPECTS.  No point in prosecuting as they see a NOT GUILTY coming from the BIASED PAID FOR JUDGES.  In the event of such a finding from the PAID FOR JUDICIARY the suspects would NEVER be subjected to any findings of truth.

At least Hans Mos appears to have tried & is dealing with the reality that the FIX IS IN & HAS BEEN FROM THE START.  Remember the masked porn in the vehicle with the suspects, how do we know who is behind those masks, it could be anybody even those that wear robes. 

Vigilante justice is the only justice that will prevail in favor of Natalee Holloway, imo.  If this had been my loved one it would have already been taken care of, I would have taken my chances with God to protect others in my loved ones name.

i would have had answers within 20 seconds from all 3 killers

its easy. you give them an offer - they cant refuse

call it barbaric - call it what you want

it works and the only way to fight barbarians is with the same tactic

some people dont like it that way.. i understand- i really do

but thats just me and my ay of handling it

cool hand robots

[robots]

if the first one doesnt talk

the second one will      as soon as he sees what happens to the first one


its that simple

[truthseeker2]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Lazlo Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:02 pm   
OM had 2 new witnesses (acc to the Dutch media/ANP)

Two new witness statements were the reason for the OM to re-arrest the 3 suspects in the Holloway case.

One female witness told investigators that she got a phonecall from one of the witnesses in the night that Natalee disappeared an heared by his voice something was wrong, according to the OM on Aruba.

The new witness said that in less then 6 hours after Holloway was last seen alive she got a phonecall from one of the ex-suspects. She noticed something was wrong she told the investigation team.

When she asked what was wrong he answered that he did not want to bring her into trouble, "what has happened I cannot tell over the phone".
An old chat session was traced in which one of the suspects wrote Natalee no longer was alive.

There also was a statement from someone who described the behavior of one of the 3 suspects on the day after Natalee had disappeared.
That also resulted in indirect evidence.

Mos insist the case is not closed and every new lead will be investigated.

Source ANP and Volkskrant link/Trouw link 
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article489149.ece/OM_Aruba_had_twee_nieuwe_getuigen_Holloway-zaak
http://www.trouw.nl/laatstenieuws/laatstenieuws/article874861.ece/OM_Verdachte_zei_dat_Holloway_dood_is

I would think this has to be Flor since Joran made a call to her early the next morning (six hours from 1:20).  Joran claims he made that call while on the bus to school.

[Red]

If there was video of JVDS actually committing the crime it would be accused of being a doctored tape.

If there was audio proof there would be another excuse.

When they find a body the excuse will be, well anyone could have put it there.

I have firmly come to believe that Aruba is the anti-world. Where all else is normal, they contort things to be just the opposite. The sky is not blue there, it is in fact red.

[MumInOhio]

Pretty disgusting. Just a few hours after Joran said they left Natalee at the beach one of them writes in a email she is dead. How is this not incriminating evidence?

Mos has rested everything on the fact that there is no body and thus in fact there can be no crime (hmm ... where have we heard those words before?) Now we hear that one of the suspects say that she was dead. The fact that they need an actual body shows just what a Neanderthal country and legal system they have.

"Unless he finds a body in the bathroom of one of these kids, there's no way in hell they can arrest them anymore." Wix said.

I do not need to see JVDS's lips moving to know he is talking and thus lying.

These people know damn well that Natalee is dead and who did it. Simple deductive reasoning and putting 1 and 1 together is impossible to do in the anti-world. In Aruba it would appear that 1+1 = 5

Interesting.....wasn't there a video out there early on with a girl covered in blood in a bathtub and some people referring to her as Natalee?  So is this guy mocking the entire situation?

Yes...they know she is dead.  And they know who is responsible.  Van Der Straten said he knew that back in June 2005.  He said he knew the 'facts of the case' and the reporter he was talking to didn't.  Why hasn't Van Der Straten been brought back into this to answer for his 'mistakes'?

I never saw this, but have read about it many times. I know it supposedly came from Val and I think it was his My Space.  That is why I was really surprised that he had never been questioned until November of this year. And to verify if he was even on Aruba that night. ALE knows. And yes I believe they are making a mockery of the entire situation.

[robots]

The new witness said that in less then 6 hours after Holloway was last seen alive she got a phonecall from one of the ex-suspects. She noticed something was wrong she told the investigation team.


un real

[Observer]

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Like I said...if they find Natalee in the ocean these degenerates will try to claim the body was planted there by the searchers.  That's how they do everything on the desolate rock.  They will never prosecute anyone for Natalee's death.  That's how things work in Aruba.

Apparently Rudy Croes  made a deal with Paul Van Der Sloot on June 11th that he will never prosecute anyone involved in this crime. We know just a day earlier his spokesman said the suspect confessed and was leading them to the body. But the next day he denied everything.

[robots]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Lazlo Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:02 pm   
OM had 2 new witnesses (acc to the Dutch media/ANP)

Two new witness statements were the reason for the OM to re-arrest the 3 suspects in the Holloway case.

One female witness told investigators that she got a phonecall from one of the witnesses in the night that Natalee disappeared an heared by his voice something was wrong, according to the OM on Aruba.

The new witness said that in less then 6 hours after Holloway was last seen alive she got a phonecall from one of the ex-suspects. She noticed something was wrong she told the investigation team.

When she asked what was wrong he answered that he did not want to bring her into trouble, "what has happened I cannot tell over the phone".
An old chat session was traced in which one of the suspects wrote Natalee no longer was alive.

There also was a statement from someone who described the behavior of one of the 3 suspects on the day after Natalee had disappeared.
That also resulted in indirect evidence.

Mos insist the case is not closed and every new lead will be investigated.

Source ANP and Volkskrant link/Trouw link 
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article489149.ece/OM_Aruba_had_twee_nieuwe_getuigen_Holloway-zaak
http://www.trouw.nl/laatstenieuws/laatstenieuws/article874861.ece/OM_Verdachte_zei_dat_Holloway_dood_is

I would think this has to be Flor since Joran made a call to her early the next morning (six hours from 1:20).  Joran claims he made that call while on the bus to school.

EXACTLY