Natalee Case Discussion #707 12/22 - 12/28/2007

[klaasend]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

[Tylergal]

Morning, Monkeys.  Just wanted to thank the Persistence personnel for their persistence during these holidays when even medical, military, fire and law enforcement people are usually the only persistent workers.  God bless them.  It is the time of miracles and let's hope they bring about a miracle for Natalee.

Thank you, Monkeys for my OT problem.  I got up a couple hours ago and started Roomba.  IT IS GREAT.  DH awakened from the noise and he LOVES it.  See, I knew he would.  It got up under my sofa and brought out a ton of cat hair even after the new housekeeper did a good job yesterday. 

Thank you, PERSISTENCE PERSONNEL AND MONKEYS. 

[Peaches]

Good morning.  So I guess the rooomba is over in the corner now saying "I"m DONE!"

The ocean search team is very close to my heart these days.  It appears they are getting some great pictures of the sea floor which is exactly what's needed here.

Tyler, you are up early today!

[KarmaRoundUp]

Kalpoe then commented on the death of a tennis teacher who drowned in Aruba almost three years ago. When prosecutors translated his writing from Papiamento to Dutch, they substituted 'the death' to 'her death,' and assumed he was talking about Holloway, Wix said. Most Arubans speak Papiamento, a Creole language that has absorbed words from Spanish, Dutch, English and Portuguese.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/21/news/CB-GEN-Aruba-Missing-Teen.php


Good morning Monkeys
I brought this over from the last thread.Did anyone hear about a tennis teacher drowning on aruba almost 3 years ago?Would this be before or after they murdered Natalee?I wonder if this drowning tennis teacher(if true)was a teacher of joran's?Somehow I can't picture either of the 2K's playing tennis.
Also,Wix is now the atty for both kalpoe brother's?

[Peaches]

I thought Wix was now Deepak's atty and Satish got the other guy.  Not sure.  I thought the court said they needed separate attys but since they're on the freakin' loose, who knows?

[MumInOhio]

Good Morning Karma...I was in the Murder and Crime thread and found this. Don't know if it is related.

ARUBA           
Date of Death    Place of Death    Cause of Death
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
January 26, 2005    ORANJESTAD, ARUBA    Other Accident
February 8, 2005    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, ARUBA    Drowning
March 12, 2005    WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT, ARUBA    Drug-Related
June 8, 2006    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, PALM BEACH, ARUBA    Veh. Accid.-Auto
October 4, 2006    SAN NICOLAS, ARUBA    Drowning

http://www.travel.state.gov/family/family_issues/death/death_594.html


When I checked that link last week it did not work. I keep going back to that page trying to work out if this could be connected. Went back this morning after last nights discussion on the bank lady and the incinerator guy.



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Elvis Kelly and his wife Gladys were at the casino the same night Joran and Natalee were. It's in Andre dos Santos statement.

Elvis Kelly is related to Gregorio Kelly. Gregorio Kelly was just murdered in the Netherlands. It appears it happened at a casino.



 

[Tylergal]

Good Morning Karma...I was in the Murder and Crime thread and found this. Don't know if it is related.

ARUBA           
Date of Death    Place of Death    Cause of Death
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
January 26, 2005    ORANJESTAD, ARUBA    Other Accident
February 8, 2005    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, ARUBA    Drowning
March 12, 2005    WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT, ARUBA    Drug-Related
June 8, 2006    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, PALM BEACH, ARUBA    Veh. Accid.-Auto
October 4, 2006    SAN NICOLAS, ARUBA    Drowning

http://www.travel.state.gov/family/family_issues/death/death_594.html


When I checked that link last week it did not work. I keep going back to that page trying to work out if this could be connected. Went back this morning after last nights discussion on the bank lady and the incinerator guy.



Quote
Elvis Kelly and his wife Gladys were at the casino the same night Joran and Natalee were. It's in Andre dos Santos statement.

Elvis Kelly is related to Gregorio Kelly. Gregorio Kelly was just murdered in the Netherlands. It appears it happened at a casino.



 

An awful lot of drownings on Aruba for such a small place.  I don't think there are that many in the state of Florida per year.

[Tylergal]

Peaches, it is good to see you.  OT, but did you get the CAT/PET? And if so, how was it?  Of course, I am praying for it to be totally negative.  What a trooper you are!

Karma, Mum, there is far too much drowning and mysterious dying on Aruba.  I think Interpol needs to look into all these suicides, murders, drownings, mysterious deaths.  This seems like a place to send your worst enemy if you want them to die, or even your best friend could die there if they were "set up" by someone even though they were unknown to the island.  The more I think about that cartoon about Natalee dying in 3 days, the more I feel Paulus was involved with Joran.

[MumInOhio]

Good Morning Peaches....It appears Wix is a little mouthy. Wonder what sort of compensation he is talking about. Would not think that Satish could sue because he is still in high school!

I have been thinking that maybe we need a thread to document all the suspicious deaths that could be associated to this case.

Ms Maple has a summary on page 16 of the Murder and Crime thread which could start with.

[Tylergal]

When they sue Natalee's family, which Tacopino and his sleazy lawyer brothers plan to do, Aruba can kiss its tourism in the rear on the way out.  I doubt there will be enough tourists left at that point to fill a hotel.  This will be the most absolute worst publicity any place ever got. 

Can you imagine?  This is "blame the victim" dressed up in a shoddy "pimp" blue plaid shirt, sweaty perverted geezer, a has-been in a see through-blouse and a greasy greedy Mafia head.

[KarmaRoundUp]

I thought Wix was now Deepak's atty and Satish got the other guy.  Not sure.  I thought the court said they needed separate attys but since they're on the freakin' loose, who knows?

In the article of the supposed 2K press announcement yesterday,it says Wix is satish's atty but Wix seems to also be speaking for deepak....maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

[robots]

anyone that thinks Natalee RAN AWAY is so out of touch with things it is skerrrrrry

not to mention - shows the true NON intelligence of certain people

gawshsssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[MumInOhio]

When they sue Natalee's family, which Tacopino and his sleazy lawyer brothers plan to do, Aruba can kiss its tourism in the rear on the way out.  I doubt there will be enough tourists left at that point to fill a hotel.  This will be the most absolute worst publicity any place ever got. 

Can you imagine?  This is "blame the victim" dressed up in a shoddy "pimp" blue plaid shirt, sweaty perverted geezer, a has-been in a see through-blouse and a greasy greedy Mafia head.

Good Morning Tyler....Glad to see you got your robot working!

Do you remember reading of Anita and Paulus being interviewed on 6/15? I just read this yesterday and can not remember where. TIA

[robots]

ARUBA TOURISM is practically NON EXISTANT

[robots]

If you go to Aruba there is a good chance you wont make it out alive

[robots]

Going to Aruba is like going to CERTAIN relatives house for the holidays - PAINFUL

[robots]

what is the difference between Hell and Aruba ? ---  there is no DIFFERENCE

[robots]

Aruba Blows

Aruba Blows

Aruba Blows

Aruba Blows

[KarmaRoundUp]

Good Morning Karma...I was in the Murder and Crime thread and found this. Don't know if it is related.

ARUBA           
Date of Death    Place of Death    Cause of Death
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
July 12, 2004    ARUBA    Drowning
January 26, 2005    ORANJESTAD, ARUBA    Other Accident
February 8, 2005    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, ARUBA    Drowning
March 12, 2005    WYNDHAM ARUBA BEACH RESORT, ARUBA    Drug-Related
June 8, 2006    HORACIO ODUBER HOSPITAL, PALM BEACH, ARUBA    Veh. Accid.-Auto
October 4, 2006    SAN NICOLAS, ARUBA    Drowning

http://www.travel.state.gov/family/family_issues/death/death_594.html


When I checked that link last week it did not work. I keep going back to that page trying to work out if this could be connected. Went back this morning after last nights discussion on the bank lady and the incinerator guy.



Quote
Elvis Kelly and his wife Gladys were at the casino the same night Joran and Natalee were. It's in Andre dos Santos statement.

Elvis Kelly is related to Gregorio Kelly. Gregorio Kelly was just murdered in the Netherlands. It appears it happened at a casino.

Good morning Mum
Do we know when deepak was supposed to have had this discussion about the teacher drowning?It would seem from the above info(thanks for the info!)that he was either talking about a drowning from 7/2004 or 2/2005 or 10/2006,if these are the only drownings reported on aruba and we know how they like to report crimes and such haha

[robots]

another amazing coincidence 

DEEPACKALIES is talking and thinking about a teacher that died - within hours of
him raping and killing Natalee

mmmmmmmmm....sure

makes PERFECT SENSE -----------NOT