Natalee Case Discussion #707 12/22 - 12/28/2007

[KarmaRoundUp]

But the biggest rumor is this; Joran did get out of the car with Ms Natalee(at the lighthouse/arashi beach)...Accidentaly she stumbled at the beach..She fell on rocks where she hit her head pretty hard.And since then passed out.THey dropped her off a far distance from the Holiday Inn.BUt as guilty as they felt came back a few minutes later to check on her.She was still in the same position as when she was dropped off.Then they discovered she still had no pulse and supposed she turned ice cold and purple.SO they all panicked , took her back in the car , and started to plan what to do.
That is how much i know of this 'rumor'.
This is sooo sickening.These guys SHOULD be pressured MUCH harder ..Make them soob so hard they can't even think straight ,so they confess to this.
I believe the rumor.This is a shame , as for I am born and raised on this lovely island. And it makes me sick ! This is unfair , no matter how drunk this girl was.It's utter and completely wrong.
May god rest Natalee's soul..
58. Posted by AuA82 | June 13, 2005 4:44 PM

http://tinyurl.com/2mn82l

I have read this post before.  Joran is a lazy bastard and he wants the convenience of his home.  I just feel they were never here at Arashi beach when Natalee was alive.  I don't feel that a sociopath felt bad and he came back to check on his victim.

I agree,no way they would just leave her there with all that evidence on her.

[MumInOhio]

Ah...Buckeye and Peaches...Dos Santos... the casino alibi for 5/30, who along with his Dad gave a ride home to Elvis Kelly, whose brother was later murdered in a casino in Holland! Think i have that right!

FYI: Once when Dana had Jossy on his program, I called in.  I think  it was that night, anyway, I asked something about others involved or significant people that have not been looked at yet, and Jossy used the words...Dos Santos...he never said much more, I don't think.  There has always been a question if he meant someone with the name DOS SANTOS or if he was speaking of said persons....the SANTOS.  There are photos of the younger Santos holding a bottle of absinthe (sp?) and Tylergal made the comment concerning the "poison wine of Bacchus".

From Sunfreak's Aruban Who's Who....only the zebo link works, interesting samed birthdate, but says he was born in Aruba and not Brazil. Looks like Satish is his only friend! Definately on the chunky side and Hawaiian looking. I do remember all the discussion about Santos and Dos Santos.

SANTOS, Andre Montival AOKI  Dos(DOB – 10-15-86 at Sao Paolo, Brazil)   – Was gambling with Joran on evening of  5-30-05 at the Wyndham & the Radisson. Has a younger brother Arthur. Lives in Palm Beach and attends Mont Plaisier College.  He drives a black singlecab pick-up truck.  Also known as “Dre.”   Knew Joran for 6 years, Satish for 2 years and Deepak for one year.

http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=eyWr9owE5Dg58OoG
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=bngDSqBp3tu6q8fX
http://www.zebo.com/231947
STATEMENT to Police 6-20-05: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=310&sid=489217fe24e75dae971260871df6c04d

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks Mum.  Will do that today. 

[MumInOhio]

You're Welcome....going to retract what I said about Jaime not looking chunky. He's definately more on the heavier side in the pics over in the Important Case Documents. Does anyone have any more pics of him? TIA

[robots]

there was never a "beach" situation that night

thats pure BS

 
there may have been a driving around in the car for a short period of time situation
Natalee was raped by the KILLER


JORAN is the killer, he is the one

[Tylergal]

there was never a "beach" situation that night

thats pure BS

 
there may have been a driving around in the car for a short period of time situation
Natalee was raped by the KILLER


JORAN is the killer, he is the one

Joran is the perpetrator?  What about Paulus?  Did he set the girl up for himself and Joran brought her to him?  Did something bad happen when they were all raping and drugging her?  Did Paulus have to pull the trigger on getting rid of her?

[robots]

one of the latest pictures of ANITA with the BULLHOG is revealing


i think anita ATE the sneakers

i think i can see them



 


joran - NEVER at the beach is a lying slug

paulus knows he was never at the beach

paulus is in the casino video- you can the sweat dripping of his glassses
 ( i think )


i feel like a bad robots 

[Tylergal]

Mum

Whatley 302  07/12/05

A few classmates were gambling at a card table along with an "older man" and Yuron VanderSloot.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/FBI_forms/whatley.htm


Interesting that the FBI put quotes around older man, didn't see that with other descriptions.....hmmmmmm

I didn't see that either Buckeye.  Just confirms even more that it was Paulus.

FBI:  "Do you think the 'older man was Paulus van der Sloot?"
Lee B:  "Yes, I think in retrospect after seeing his pictures, the older man could be PVDS."
FBI:  "Are you 100 percent positive it was PVDS?"
Lee B:  "Well, I am not 100 percent positive, but about 99 percent positive."
FBI:  "If you are not 100 percent positive, then this is off the record and cannot become a part of your testimony."
Lee B:  "Well, I feel that it was, but if you say so . . . . can we leave that 'older man' open to speculation and verification?"
FBI:  "We will mark it in Italics or quotes so we can go back later if you should be asked to identify him."

The dialog quoted above is JMHO, but I think we have a clue here.

[robots]

there was never a "beach" situation that night

thats pure BS

 
there may have been a driving around in the car for a short period of time situation
Natalee was raped by the KILLER


JORAN is the killer, he is the one

Joran is the perpetrator?  What about Paulus?  Did he set the girl up for himself and Joran brought her to him?  Did something bad happen when they were all raping and drugging her?  Did Paulus have to pull the trigger on getting rid of her?

paulus is just as bad - he is like the getaway driver in an armed robbery where someone is shot


it is clear as day that paulus was instrumental in making Natalee DISAPPEAR

[Magnolia]

one of the latest pictures of ANITA with the BULLHOG is revealing


i think anita ATE the sneakers

i think i can see them



 :

 

[Tylergal]

one of the latest pictures of ANITA with the BULLHOG is revealing


i think anita ATE the sneakers

i think i can see them



 


joran - NEVER at the beach is a lying slug

paulus knows he was never at the beach

paulus is in the casino video- you can the sweat dripping of his glassses
 ( i think )


i feel like a bad robots 

That old sneaky yenta has eaten a lot, as is obvious from the blubber.

[Tylergal]

All I'm saying is there is probably a footnote in some records whereas Broughton believes this 'older man' to be PVDS.

[robots]

the odds that an "older man" who looks exactly like paulus with same hair line, watch, glasses, shirt, stature, playing poker at a casino at same table as joran and Natalee
on the same night at the same time and IT IS NOT paulus are  calculated in the range
of 1 in 6.4 million.


oh......... take it to the bank, cash it in.   IT IS PAULUS 

dont let anyone ever tell you it is not the ACCOMPLICE of a murder -rape

[Tylergal]

SATISH:  "How's the girl?"
DEEPAK: "Not good.  She bled all over the Sloots bathtub and is beginning to turn purple."
PAULUS:  "Joran, I received a phone call from that guy who prolcaimed himself to be a DEA agent to the Alabama people, that he has confirmed an airplane is in the air and they are coming for this girl in our house."
JORAN:  "Well, you are the one who wanted her so you figure out what to do with her."
PAULUS:  "You little creep, it's all your fault, you and your PIMP games.  You are the one who set her up."
JORAN: "Well, it's your judgeship on the line.  What are you going to do.  Please, Dad ,where is my mother, I need my momma.  She will know what to do."
PAULUS:  "I have called her and she thinks we should dispose of her."
JORAN:  "But she is still breathing."
PAULUS:  "Then we must stop her from breathing.

JMHO AND SPECULATION AS TO HOW ALL THIS IS POSSIBLE.

[robots]

SATISH:  "How's the girl?"
DEEPAK: "Not good.  She bled all over the Sloots bathtub and is beginning to turn purple."
PAULUS:  "Joran, I received a phone call from that guy who prolcaimed himself to be a DEA agent to the Alabama people, that he has confirmed an airplane is in the air and they are coming for this girl in our house."
JORAN:  "Well, you are the one who wanted her so you figure out what to do with her."
PAULUS:  "You little creep, it's all your fault, you and your PIMP games.  You are the one who set her up."
JORAN: "Well, it's your judgeship on the line.  What are you going to do.  Please, Dad ,where is my mother, I need my momma.  She will know what to do."
PAULUS:  "I have called her and she thinks we should dispose of her."
JORAN:  "But she is still breathing."
PAULUS:  "Then we must stop her from breathing.

JMHO AND SPECULATION AS TO HOW ALL THIS IS POSSIBLE.

that about covers it

[robots]

if you look close you can see some shoe laces

[crazybabyborg]

one of the latest pictures of ANITA with the BULLHOG is revealing


i think anita ATE the sneakers

i think i can see them



 


joran - NEVER at the beach is a lying slug

paulus knows he was never at the beach

paulus is in the casino video- you can the sweat dripping of his glassses
 ( i think )


i feel like a bad robots 

  OMG! You're killing me, Robots!!!

[Anna]

if you look close you can see some shoe laces

I can even read the size tag!   Says 10.5 just as Dutch interrogator said.


Jerry Strawberry/Cheremy Croes is fat and also looks Hawiian.  I used to think it was him and that was why Steve Croes got involved, trying to protect his creep cousin.

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[MumInOhio]

if you look close you can see some shoe laces

I can even read the size tag!   Says 10.5 just as Dutch interrogator said.


Jerry Strawberry/Cheremy Croes is fat and also looks Hawiian.  I used to think it was him and that was why Steve Croes got involved, trying to protect his creep cousin.

.

Thanks Anna...been full circle on this today, ended back where I started off! It's amazing how often that happen. Still thinking Jaime, but will check out Strawberry.
Got to go see which Browns team shows up today! Have a great one everyone!

[Anna]

Thanks, CBB, for turning on the electricity on my tree, lol.

Got it, you can delete now.

Love it!