Natalee Case Discussion #708 12/28 - 12/30/07

[Observer]

I think Freddy was a lie that Melody told to make it sound as though Joran had a guest.  I seriously doubt this occurred.  I always doubted it even when she colluded with Dan to make everyone think Joran was innocent after Dan's merger with Paulus and AHATA.

Ahh that explains what happened..LMAO!! Well I certainly wasn't waiting in line to ask Scuba Jap questions..lol! I just refreshed my memory a bit the last few days about some of the last posts from Dan and Harry Ho. Very disturbing!! It's like Dan completely lost all sense of reality 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I think Freddy was a lie that Melody told to make it sound as though Joran had a guest.  I seriously doubt this occurred.  I always doubted it even when she colluded with Dan to make everyone think Joran was innocent after Dan's merger with Paulus and AHATA.

Well I certainly wasn't waiting in line to ask Scuba Jap questions..lol! I just refreshed my memory a bit the last few days about some of the last posts from Dan and Harry Ho. Very disturbing!! It's like Dan completely lost all sense of reality 

lost sense of reality....same as selling out....hating competition....otherwise known as making up crap or lying. jmho 

[Anna]

I think Freddy was a lie that Melody told to make it sound as though Joran had a guest.  I seriously doubt this occurred.  I always doubted it even when she colluded with Dan to make everyone think Joran was innocent after Dan's merger with Paulus and AHATA.

Well I certainly wasn't waiting in line to ask Scuba Jap questions..lol! I just refreshed my memory a bit the last few days about some of the last posts from Dan and Harry Ho. Very disturbing!! It's like Dan completely lost all sense of reality 

We have an expression for that in the South - don't we for everything?

It's called flying too close to the cotton, if you get my drift, lol!

[Tylergal]

I think Freddy was a lie that Melody told to make it sound as though Joran had a guest.  I seriously doubt this occurred.  I always doubted it even when she colluded with Dan to make everyone think Joran was innocent after Dan's merger with Paulus and AHATA.

Ahh that explains what happened..LMAO!! Well I certainly wasn't waiting in line to ask Scuba Jap questions..lol! I just refreshed my memory a bit the last few days about some of the last posts from Dan and Harry Ho. Very disturbing!! It's like Dan completely lost all sense of reality 

Lost all sense of ethics.  Money talks and ethics walks.

[robots]

hhhmmmmmmm... my thought print says the following

"joran knows what he did to Natalee and the police are getting close so better to blame it on someone else at this point"

"joran the detective " is so stupid he gives himself away all the time


who is dumber joran deepak or satish ?

[Anna]

Freddie ratted out Joran pretty well which makes me tend to believe he was not along the night Natalee disappeared.  First he says Joran told him about her being Missing on Monday, a day too soon.

Then the part about Natalee falling down repeatedly, that can't have helped Joran at all.

Maybe Freddie was trying to work out one of those deals because of his own crimes with the under-aged girl.  Oh, but wait!  Couldn't have been because we all know there are no plea bargains in Aruba, they are much too virtuous for such things as that.  HA!

Well, everything he said hurt Joran and the Kalpoes did report having borrowed his camera for some reason or other about that time.  Everything he said was harmful to Joran for some reason.  But I still doubt he ever told the actual truth, at least not all of it.

That Harry Ho was one sicko, too.

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[robots]

hmmmmmm

[GabbyG]

Klaas or CBB...can one of you help me change back into my regular monkey clothes, with the little yellow bow? I cant seem to find it!!   
Ty!!
GabbyG

[klaasend]

Klaas or CBB...can one of you help me change back into my regular monkey clothes, with the little yellow bow? I cant seem to find it!!   
Ty!!
GabbyG

I'm not sure if I have it either, I'll ask CBB.

[crazybabyborg]

Gabby? I'm just now getting ready to go home from work. I'll look for it when I get there if Klaas doesn't have it. 

[robots]

Klaas or CBB...can one of you help me change back into my regular monkey clothes, with the little yellow bow? I cant seem to find it!!   
Ty!!
GabbyG

everyone close their eyes when Gabby changes 

[Anna]

hmmmmmm

And still the Kalpoes won't tell what happened. 

[robots]

hmmmmmm

And still the Kalpoes won't tell what happened. 

yep. and it seems to me that 1 of the K2 is in this deep and the other one knows it

[Anna]

hmmmmmm

And still the Kalpoes won't tell what happened. 

yep. and it seems to me that 1 of the K2 is in this deep and the other one knows it

I used to think it was Deepak but not so sure any more now that we know Satish was certainly not sleeping.

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[robots]

HER IS A BIG TIP from SATISH


On you question how can I explain this, I will answer you the following:
How Joran and the missing girl walked immediately onto the beach. If Joran went in another direction afterwards, that I would not know because Deepak and I immediately drove away.

[robots]

hmmmmmm

And still the Kalpoes won't tell what happened. 

yep. and it seems to me that 1 of the K2 is in this deep and the other one knows it

I used to think it was Deepak but not so sure any more now that we know Satish was certainly not sleeping.

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yep

[robots]

HER IS A BIG TIP from SATISH


On you question how can I explain this, I will answer you the following:
How Joran and the missing girl walked immediately onto the beach. If Joran went in another direction afterwards, that I would not know because Deepak and I immediately drove away.

went away in another direction to ANOTHER CAR

[Observer]

Interesting what these two dutch posters had to say about Joran saying Deepak raped and killed Natalee and the Aruba-Bay Video's

Translated
http://forum.fok.nl/topic/837319/6/50#37500682
Okay, the above story is apparently by some sort of scoop-horny idiot invented. An sich is that the attached 'note' in Dutch is already defective strangely enough, since even Aruban police for such a document would take even more time.

Secondly, it seems to me quite suspicious that something after so much time only above water, while her mother Himmler SS though the whole world has sent to junk on Joran on digging. It surprises me that they blowt the fact that he has not yet in connection with this case. According to American standards blowers are indeed practical serial killers.

And thirdly ... I know Joran somewhat personally and believe me. If that guy can murder a girl, I Ali Chemicali
Posted by  Slappertje
Vincent Vega
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Mysterious Videos create even more questions.
     At the beginning of the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee, some videos posted on an Aruban website, aru-bay.com, people to see that a place to explore in the vicinity of the lighthouse.

     The videos can be seen that the police in the search is in the vicinity of a few large rocks
     The videos are made the day after Aruban and Dutch authorities have made a clear message that Natalee was dead, and that they would return the body.
     The videos were already on the Internet, but until now there has been little attention by the media. Although you may ask whether the videos are convincing, they say a lot of questions.

     Click on the videos to see.
     Video 1, Video 2, 3 video, video 4, 5 video, video 6, 7 video, video 8

Is this the place where Natalee's body was found? Curiously, these videos are plenty!
In video # 8 at 1min. 34sec. Is vague make sure that the person with his back to the camera, a hand / arm?! Pick up, packs and back down. (On the left side of the person who sail uitspreid with his back to the camera.)
It could be that they Natalee's body and found it to have no one like to tell. It may be that because Papa van der Sloot was good friends with the head of police at the time of Natalee's disappearance, the police her for his good friend has to disappear.

I find it remarkable that such persons who may be, there is a lot of interest in something in the rocks that one needs to pull off the canvas to cover! If this Natalee, it is possible that this would be the place where the three boys have brought her, raped her, and she is deceased.

Joran was no longer and told his interrogators that something bad had happened, and told them where the body was? Papa van der Sloot has asked for some favors in his politievriendjes?

http://forum.fok.nl/topic/837319/11/25

[robots]

Also I can explain that there was a time that when I was with my brother Deepak and Joran and his father was also there, Joran said “if a body is found that we are in big trouble”.  My brother and I said to Joran that is impossible because we had done nothing. Joran said then laughing, “Yes, yes you are right”.
 

[Observer]

Another translation from April 2006
   
THE HAGUE - The new suspect in the case surrounding the disappearance in Aruba American toeriste Natalee Holloway, Guido W. , Will be released today. He is still classified as suspicious. That says his lawyer Gerard Spong.

     The Spong announced interim measures that should prevent extradition to Aruba, is the job. Spong says that his arguments have convinced the public prosecutor. According to Spong is a testament to lean to W. To deliver. In addition, he is every day by police in Utrecht, where he stuck since last week Wednesday, after hearing, and the questioning filmed so that the judiciary in Aruba on the images.

     Previously Spong said that W. Aruba should not be extradited because he is afraid as homosexual in prison 'traumatic experiences' to do.

     Justice in Aruba wild W. Get to the island because the possible criminal offences that have been committed. W. Suspected of complicity to murder or manslaughter or grievous bodily injury of Natalee Holloway.

     The American teenager disappeared on May 29 last year vanished during her vacation in Aruba. Justice is convinced that she was murdered. The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot serves as main accused, but was released for lack of evidence.

     W. Was briefly after missing interrogated several times: three times in Aruba and two times by police in The Hague, to which he shortly after the loss of Natalee moved. He was a croupier in Excelsior Casino in the Holiday Inn hotel where Holloway on the evening of her disappearance along with Joran van der Sloot was seen.

     W. Is the son of an Aruban politician: the chairman of the Aliansa / MSA, a party that last year participated in the September parliamentary elections.

(Het Parool)

     Quote:
     'Guido knew Natalee not'
     By MAAIKE RUEPERT

     AMSTERDAM - Guido W. (19), Wednesday in The Hague has been arrested in connection with the disappearance of Natalee ...

     Suspect Guido W.
     ... Holloway, the missing American had not. That says W. 's lawyer Gerard Spong. ,, Natalee Holloway He has never met,''says Spong.

     Spong did yesterday also know that W. Today again at liberty, but still is regarded as suspicious.

     W., who is suspected of complicity in the abduction and mistreatment and murder of Holloway, was apprentice croupier at the casino in the hotel where Holloway during her stay in Aruba stayed. On May 29, 2005, the evening before her disappearance, he was at work confirms Spong. After Holloway's disappearance is W. Five times heard as a witness.

     His arrest followed several incriminating statements that former colleagues from the casino in February on W. Have made. What the casinomedewerkers about his client against the police have said, let Spong not lost. Yesterday told a member of the Excelsior Casino in this newspaper that W. The day after Holloway's disappearance worrying at work appeared. He then held area a few days earlier on his work than was planned.

     Spong says he is the allegations that he "quite easy" can rebut. Justice in Aruba wants it as soon as possible to the island will be transferred for interrogation. Public Prosecutor Karin Janssen refuses to comment.

     W. Is a well-known of the three suspects who were last seen with Holloway. Joran van der Sloot is a good friend. They know each other from the tennis club and evening entertainment. They, too, are suspected of kidnapping and murder of Holloway, but due to lack of evidence on free feet.

     Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty voted against CBS News said to have been shocked by the news of the arrest. ,, It does not seem like the new arrest the three suspects old no longer play, but that the group of suspects around Natalee's disappearance only bigger.''

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