Natalee Case Discussion #708 12/28 - 12/30/07

[private eye]

I am just kidding, sort of. I was told that by 3 or 4 people over the holidays, and I laughed with them, thinking they certainly had reason to resent Rudy. However, when I got home and pulled up a photo of him it hit me just how much he did resemble a goat's ass:)))) Maybe it was the power of suggestion!!!!!!!!

[SunnyinTX]

Saturday, December 29, 2007
IX. Dive Series - The Next Phase
 
Special Update: Sat. 29-Dec-1100 hrs

From Tim Miller:

Please allow me to give my sincere appreciation for all the comments supporting our efforts in our search for Natalee. Today is an exciting day as we will now begin working the ROV in hopes of finding a special treasure at the bottom of the sea named Natalee.

Let us keep Natalee, Dave, and Beth in our hearts and prayers. Also, let's not forget all the other families of missing loved ones.

Texas Equusearch has been so very blessed with the support of Underwater Expeditions, the R/V Persistence (Silvetti Group), and their crew - which I think is the best in the world- for all their heartfelt efforts.

May it be His will to bring Natalee home.
-Tim Miller
Texas Equusearch

Posted by Kyle Kingman at 9:40 AM 


http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/12/ix-dive-series-next-phase.html

Good Morning Monks...I have been desperately trying to keep up and catch up....and not doing a great job of it......Anna thanks for posting this....Tim and the people with him are a huge part of Natalee's Angel Network!! I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas and are looking forward to a new year.....hopefully Natalee will be brought home.....I believe.

Can someone change me outta my Christmas trimmings?  TIA

[Helen Back]

I can't imagine what kind of sick old farts club exists there that would accomplish this, and when I imagine it I always turn off my mind thinking I just have to quit thinking and this is just too far fetched. Plus I can't imagine how the comment that Depak buried her made in the back seat of the car fits in.

But it is clear that the authorities in Aruba DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, MAJOR PLAYERS IN ARUBA'S INSTITUTIONS HAVE DIRECT INVOLVEMENT, AND THAT IS WHY THIS IS NOT AN UNSOLVED MURDER CASE OR MISSING GIRL CASE. ARUBA KNOWS, DID IT, AND AS FAR AS THEY CARE CONCERNED WE SHOULD JUST GET OVER IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL US, PROSECUTE ANYONE FOR IT OTHER THAN OFFERING US A SACRIFICE OF 2 INNOCENT MEN, BECAUSE THEY ARE A SOVERIGN NATION AND WE CAN'T MAKE THEM. EVIDENCE? GIVE IT TO US. OOPS NOW WHAT EVIDENCE DID YOU GIVE US? SORRY, WE BUNGLED IT.

The PTB in Aruba know exactly what happened to Natalee. 

The Caribbean Court of Justice is a joke.  The Hague is a joke.

[Kat_Gram]

I pray that if Natalee is out there, in a crab trap that they find her.  I know the crew of the Persistence is doing all they can to make that happen.

That's my prayer too, Klaas.  Did you make your project deadline?  Are you done?

I have until tomorrow now to get it done and I will.  Then I still have work to do that will be ongoing.  I could have pushed and gotten it done today but my eyes were getting too tired and I was starting to make mistakes.

Here's a thing that the IT person did for us yesterday at work, he adjusted the hertz to 75 , maximum. for my screen and a few other people that were around. The higher the hertz setting on a computer, the less ficker , the less eye strain. I came home and did it here. It is done thru My Computer, display , advanced and there is a scroll box with " hertz" on it. 75 is the max.
He doesn't know why these things are rolled out with a lower hertz. Screen doesn't lok any different, it affects the refresh of the screen internally.

[Lala'sMom]

I am just kidding, sort of. I was told that by 3 or 4 people over the holidays, and I laughed with them, thinking they certainly had reason to resent Rudy. However, when I got home and pulled up a photo of him it hit me just how much he did resemble a goat's ass:)))) Maybe it was the power of suggestion!!!!!!!!

Just exactly how many goat's rear ends have you been privy to see?  I think I can honestly say I have never seen one of those up close. 

[Hotshot]

Any clue who this one was?....the link is no longer available.

www.nbc4i.com/news/4593143/detail.html



Another Arrest Made In Case Of Missing Ala. Teen



POSTED: 9:38 am EDT June 10, 2005

UPDATED: 9:34 am EDT June 11, 2005



ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Police in Aruba investigating the disappearance of an Alabama teenager made another arrest early Saturday. It comes just hours after police said one of three men recently arrested admitted "something bad had happened" to Natalee Holloway.



Police aren't commenting on the latest arrest, which was the sixth since Holloway went missing May 30.



Late Friday, one of three young men who took Holloway to the beach during her class trip to Aruba said "something bad happened" to her, police said.



The three men arrested by Aruban police early Thursday morning had been designated "persons of interest" in the case and were detained soon after Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Police officials questioned the trio, and then released them back to their families.

This link, now gone.  Interesting

[Lala'sMom]

I can't imagine what kind of sick old farts club exists there that would accomplish this, and when I imagine it I always turn off my mind thinking I just have to quit thinking and this is just too far fetched. Plus I can't imagine how the comment that Depak buried her made in the back seat of the car fits in.

But it is clear that the authorities in Aruba DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, MAJOR PLAYERS IN ARUBA'S INSTITUTIONS HAVE DIRECT INVOLVEMENT, AND THAT IS WHY THIS IS NOT AN UNSOLVED MURDER CASE OR MISSING GIRL CASE. ARUBA KNOWS, DID IT, AND AS FAR AS THEY CARE CONCERNED WE SHOULD JUST GET OVER IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL US, PROSECUTE ANYONE FOR IT OTHER THAN OFFERING US A SACRIFICE OF 2 INNOCENT MEN, BECAUSE THEY ARE A SOVERIGN NATION AND WE CAN'T MAKE THEM. EVIDENCE? GIVE IT TO US. OOPS NOW WHAT EVIDENCE DID YOU GIVE US? SORRY, WE BUNGLED IT.

You are right.  This theory of the "elders" is way more than I want to comprehend on most days.  However, I think there is a network involved that would include things of this nature.  The casinos bring in the big bucks and the tourists pay for the thrills...after you have done all the normal things...then you have to up the ante a bit in order to get the result you want.  Thus maybe some of these high rollers, which could easily be high ranking officials, would need more than just your average escort to make them happy.

I think it had become the norm for the place to find whatever your heart desired if you were willing to pay enough money and keep your mouth shut.  In other words, too many important people involved and too much money for the average person to risk telling what they know.  I have wondered how they are laundering that money these days since tourism is down and things are beginning to tank for them.  Are the Dutch still propping up the economy by frequenting the island for their own fantasies?  There are some really sick people in this world and Aruba  has more than its share of them.

[Kat_Gram]

I've never seen a goat's ass. Hardly ever see a goat either.
..
But I do remember something about the search warrant, it was issued for the addess 39 Montanja. The address. Nothing was specified in there as to what buildings. The narrowing decision was made on the spot.
Now, they were all there, the Sloots, Ben Vocking, the ALE, the prosecutor, the Judge. Who do you think pitched the arguement to the Judge to narrow it ? Who do you think went along with it ? KJ would have had no choice at that point, but an appeal could have been made instantly, or she could have opened her mouth at the time.   

[private eye]

And the joke was supposed to be on Beth. However, by some higher force than I have ever met on earth, all of you came to stand with Beth, much to Aruba's surprise. NOW THE JOKE IS ON ARUBA:))))))OR IS ARUBA JUST A JOKE!!!!!!

[private eye]

I've never seen a goat's ass. Hardly ever see a goat either.
..
But I do remember something about the search warrant, it was issued for the addess 39 Montanja. The address. Nothing was specified in there as to what buildings. The narrowing decision was made on the spot.
Now, they were all there, the Sloots, Ben Vocking, the ALE, the prosecutor, the Judge. Who do you think pitched the arguement to the Judge to narrow it ? Who do you think went along with it ? KJ would have had no choice at that point, but an appeal could have been made instantly, or she could have opened her mouth at the time.   

The beauty, from Aruba's point of view, is that the judge got the publicity of the search warrant and the privacy to make impotent the same warrant, almost.

[private eye]

I am just kidding, sort of. I was told that by 3 or 4 people over the holidays, and I laughed with them, thinking they certainly had reason to resent Rudy. However, when I got home and pulled up a photo of him it hit me just how much he did resemble a goat's ass:)))) Maybe it was the power of suggestion!!!!!!!!

Just exactly how many goat's rear ends have you been privy to see?  I think I can honestly say I have never seen one of those up close. 

You obviously weren't raised on a farm:) They are prominently displayed on every goat I have ever seen. They are located on the opposite end from the horns. I'll be the first to admit they are nothing to write home about, but they are impossible to miss on the goat:)

[private eye]

I am just kidding, sort of. I was told that by 3 or 4 people over the holidays, and I laughed with them, thinking they certainly had reason to resent Rudy. However, when I got home and pulled up a photo of him it hit me just how much he did resemble a goat's ass:)))) Maybe it was the power of suggestion!!!!!!!!

Just exactly how many goat's rear ends have you been privy to see?  I think I can honestly say I have never seen one of those up close. 

You obviously weren't raised on a farm:) They are prominently displayed on every goat I have ever seen. They are located on the opposite end from the horns. I'll be the first to admit they are nothing to write home about, but they are impossible to miss on the goat:)

I apologize if that was a little too graphic to post as I certainly didn't mean to irritate or offend you.

[private eye]

I've never seen a goat's ass. Hardly ever see a goat either.
..
But I do remember something about the search warrant, it was issued for the addess 39 Montanja. The address. Nothing was specified in there as to what buildings. The narrowing decision was made on the spot.
Now, they were all there, the Sloots, Ben Vocking, the ALE, the prosecutor, the Judge. Who do you think pitched the arguement to the Judge to narrow it ? Who do you think went along with it ? KJ would have had no choice at that point, but an appeal could have been made instantly, or she could have opened her mouth at the time.   

I've wondered who was there to represent the interests of the prosecutor's office who sought the warrant. I suppose the defense attorney must be present to appeal the boundaries of the warrant, so there would need to be a prosecutor there to defend the original warrant. But Vonking? was the only representative I know of present, and he was there to help his old friend PVS.

[Kat_Gram]

KJ was there because I saw the vid. on CNN as I do not get those other stations.
There was quite a crowd there.Vocking was there but had taken leave, so he was not there in an official capacity. Although, who amongst the crowd of ALE would have known that ? They ( ALE ) might have made that assumption.
Jossy had mentioned that the ALE felt intimidated by the powerful ppl who were involved in this case.It was also mentioned that Therese Fernandez Hernandez Croes came to osme ALE meetings for this case.
ps It was her son who was later convicted of trafficking of cocaine in Holland.
He might still be in jail in the NL.

[private eye]

I missed that you said KJ was there. I think your scenario explains why they have been so effective. It is an all encompassing group.

[klaasend]

Does anyone else think Rudy Croes face resembles the ass of a goat?

I'm trying to work here 

[private eye]

Other than economic penalties Beth can manage to have inflicted upon Aruba and public opinion, I honestly don't see what she can do to get answers from Aruba. The prosecutor, police, judges and defense attorneys are on the same side and are the only people to have actual access to the evidence. She has nothing.

[MumInOhio]

KJ was there because I saw the vid. on CNN as I do not get those other stations.
There was quite a crowd there.Vocking was there but had taken leave, so he was not there in an official capacity. Although, who amongst the crowd of ALE would have known that ? They ( ALE ) might have made that assumption.
Jossy had mentioned that the ALE felt intimidated by the powerful ppl who were involved in this case.It was also mentioned that Therese Fernandez Hernandez Croes came to osme ALE meetings for this case.
ps It was her son who was later convicted of trafficking of cocaine in Holland.
He might still be in jail in the NL.

LOL....Somehow I doubt it.

[private eye]

I'll admit that was a post in poor taste!!!!!!!!! The irony of it is that is was originated by women, fairly civilized women:))))))) I think that maybe they simply let their hair down for a moment and spoke their true feelings of contempt for Mr. Croes. I was a little shocked first that they said it as it was completely out of character for them, and even further shocked when I checked and saw how accurate they were. But I really didn't mean to post inappropriately, and I apologize for doing so.

[jackb]

What do you want to bed "fair blonds" are the "forbidden fruits."

 

Me too.  LOL