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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #709 12/30 «
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HAPPY NEW YEAR MONKEYS !!!
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just wanted to pop in and wish all my monkey friends a blessed new year!!!
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Quote from: MuffyBee on December 31, 2007, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: San on December 31, 2007, 09:25:29 PM
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Steve Croes - Mambo Jambo 12/29/07
Look at this skank. I hope someone chops his fingers off.
Good evening, San. I see you are in fine form this New Year's Eve.
I had to get my last one in before midnight
Looks just like a goat's beard!! Ughhh!! And THAT MESS on top of his head !?!?
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Quote from: thecuz on December 31, 2007, 09:53:48 PM
just wanted to pop in and wish all my monkey friends a blessed new year!!!
Hey, cuz! Happy New Year to you!!!
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To the crew of the Persistence: Happy New Year to all - you're heros !!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #709 12/30 «
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Quote from: Puzzler on December 31, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
Quote from: MuffyBee on December 31, 2007, 09:26:18 PM
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Steve Croes - Mambo Jambo 12/29/07
Look at this skank. I hope someone chops his fingers off.
Good evening, San. I see you are in fine form this New Year's Eve.
I had to get my last one in before midnight
Looks just like a goat's beard!! Ughhh!! And THAT MESS on top of his head !?!?
We almost have a whole animal of same species, a goat's beard on Steve Croes, a goat's rear on Rudy Croes, goat's demeanor on Julia Renfro.
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Quote from: Puzzler on December 31, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
Quote from: MuffyBee on December 31, 2007, 09:26:18 PM
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Quote from: MuffyBee on December 31, 2007, 09:22:49 PM
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Steve Croes - Mambo Jambo 12/29/07
Look at this skank. I hope someone chops his fingers off.
Good evening, San. I see you are in fine form this New Year's Eve.
I had to get my last one in before midnight
Looks just like a goat's beard!! Ughhh!! And THAT MESS on top of his head !?!?
Reminds me of that old Steve Martin line, "Shake my hand, Black Soul Man."
Aruba, full of false prophets like Charles Croes. Crawling with slimey journalists. Overgrown with snakes in their government offices, law enforcement and judiciary. Drug dealers, money launderers, Mafia casino owners. These are the things I will always remember Aruba by.
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December 31, 2007, 10:38:24 PM »
Quote from: Puzzler on December 31, 2007, 10:06:43 PM
To the crew of the Persistence: Happy New Year to all - you're heros !!!
To Persistence, you are our shining star! Happy New Year and Gold bless you for all you are doing!
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Hello and Happy New Year, Monkeys. Here's a link to a few prison statistics for Aruba:
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/rel/icps/worldbrief/caribbean_records.php?code=58
I'll add more if I can find it. Aruba is not known for keeping accurate and open records.
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Quote from: private eye on December 31, 2007, 08:57:06 PM
Everybody has different scenes of poignancy from this case that are particularly painful to them, but for me the picture of Beth trying to slump to the ground only to be caught by I think Jug and someone else is mine. Her agony simply screams out of that photo. And for some reason, that cage is the next one. Anyway,,,,,
Sorry for the lapse. There is much alright in the world to celebrate, and watching this site is validation of that goodness:) You all are really special people. Beth is blessed to have all of you in her corner and I know she knows it.
My heart sinks ever time I see or even remember that photograph, PI. I have to agree with you, it is the most painful remembrance of this whole ordeal.
Yet Aruba celebrates that pain. I will never forgive them for that. Such a bunch of low bred, souless, nasty, incredulous, corrupt, cowardly, athiestic, worthless bunch of creeps. Hell awaits them.
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Quote from: AZLady on December 31, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
Hello and Happy New Year, Monkeys. Here's a link to a few prison statistics for Aruba:
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/rel/icps/worldbrief/caribbean_records.php?code=58
I'll add more if I can find it. Aruba is not known for keeping accurate and open records.
I'll bet the number of Dutch ever sentenced to KIA is nil.
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Quote from: Kermit on December 31, 2007, 08:56:20 PM
Happy new year monkeys
CROAK! Happy New year Kermit.
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Quote from: klaasend on December 31, 2007, 09:10:11 PM
Steve Croes - Mambo Jambo 12/29/07
Happy New Year and may you rot in hell, Steve.
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Actually, the number of foreign prisoners in Dutch prisons, including Aruba, is about 50%, a number I found astonishingly high. Here is some more prison info if anyone wishes to dig into this further. It takes some time and I don't have the time now, but you are welcome to the links:
COMMITTEE AGAINST TORTURE, Thirty-eight session, 30 April 18 May 2007
The Netherlands
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cat/docs/AdvanceVersions/CAT.C.NET.CO.4.doc
"Prompt and impartial investigations
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The Committee is concerned at the number of reports of assaults committed by Aruban law enforcement officials
. It is also concerned that, as reported by the State party, of the forty-nine cases lodged at the Internal Investigations Bureau between 1 September 2005 and 21 March 2007, only two have been dealt with in court and did not lead to a conviction due to insufficient evidence.
The State party should take all appropriate measures to send a clear and unambiguous message to the Police Force and to prison staff that torture, violence and ill-treatment are unacceptable. Similarly, the State party should implement its obligation to investigate promptly, impartially and thoroughly all complaints submitted, to ensure that appropriate penalties are imposed on those convicted. The State party should also ensure that effective measures are put in place to guarantee that those who report assaults by law enforcement officials are protected from intimidation and possible reprisals for making such reports."
Report to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands on the visit to Aruba carried out by the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CPT) from 30 June to 2 July 1994
http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/nld/1996-27-inf-eng-1.htm
"Ethnic Minorities and Criminal Justice in the Netherlands
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0192-3234(1997)21%3C257%3AEMACJI%3E2.0.CO%3B2-T&size=SMALL&origin=JSTOR-reducePage#abstract
Several ethnic minorities in the Netherlands, relative to population, commit more crimes and more serious crimes than do Dutch offenders. There are indications that minority offenders who commit less serious or nonserious offenses seem to be punished more harshly than similar Dutch offenders. Relatively more ethnic minority members are placed in pretrial detention and sentenced to prison-partly because of different crime patterns, partly because many have no fixed residence, and partly because many are less likely than Dutch defendants to turn up at the trial and to plead guilty. Even taking account of these variables, minority membership continues to be a factor in explaining sentencing. Although ethnic stereotyping may play a role, disparities appear to result largely from the unfavorable economic, social, and legal position of ethnic minorities."
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December 31, 2007, 11:32:24 PM »
the story from the get go was full of lies, from all 3 that STOLE Natalee.
one can only surmise the beech story was a load of bull crap.
the sporter is a thief, he steals money and he steal lives. he steals because he is so weak
my take is - they took her in the car, NO BEACH
went for a ride for drugs to totally take effect which they slipped her in the bar.
went IMMEDIATELY to sloot house of HORRORS. not only was paulus THERE but a couple other higher ups
it all happened at the SLOOTS
when did someone look up DRUGS on the sloot computer.????? that night ? or later on
PAULUS was THERE......
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Update:
Mon 31-Dec - 1132 hrs - New Year's Eve
"Come, wander with me she said into regions yet untrod. Read with me what is still unread in the manuscript of God." - Longfellow
The words return to me as they did in Louisiana almost a month ago. The assembling swaths of sonar data reveal the seabed to us as if it were a scroll from a mighty manuscript written by a mighty hand. The numerous ROV dives are the Rosetta Stone for reading the great manuscript.
The seabed tells a different tale at every scale of observation. The submarine terrain appears tired, bent, and worn- a stark yet welcomed contrast to our jagged expectations. The seabed is deeply pitted, torn, and scarred. It cryptically cries out in past neglect, ruin, and abandon. Sparkling coral and happy creatures thrive in the shallows blissfully unaware of the decay of their heritage laying just out beyond the reef. The water deepens and color fades to grey where predators roam. Deeper still, the seabed appears lifeless and void. As the ROV touches down onto the deep seafloor, a benthic nephloid cloud erupts, engulfing the remote intruder. As the silt settles in the darkness, polycheate worms withdraw into their delicate burrows. Now under immense pressure, the ROV is in total solitude, stillness, and cold. There is no margin for failure in the ocean. The seafloor speaks of past failure, where grim reminders of the lost and broken abound. It is a relief to be back on board the Persistence in relative safety.
The Persistence is amid uncovering the final planned quadrant of the search area. Once completed and ROV ground-truthed, we will assemble the data and read from the last scroll in this mighty manuscript.
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/12/ix-dive-series-next-phase.html
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Hello to all. Just popping in for a moment , it's not 2008 yet here, but I wish everyone a great year in our personal lives.
And this past year was full of ups and downs for the Holloway Twitty families,
I truly hope that the Persistence finds Natalee and that this can be over for them in that regard. It will never be over, but I pray that they can live the rest of their lives and find some relief from the pain they have endured.
xx 00 xx kathi
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Mrs Red and I just want to wish you all a very Happy New Year ... Thank you so much for all that you have done in 2007.
We look forward in 2008 to getting further answers for Natalee's family and the families of all missing persons.
We will soon be putting a New Years Eve post on the front page with some audio that I am sure all will find enjoyable.
Thanks to all.
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Thanks Anna
- I think I need a translation
The Persistence is amid uncovering the final planned quadrant of the search area. Once completed and ROV ground-truthed, we will assemble the data and read from the last scroll in this mighty manuscript.
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Quote from: Red on December 31, 2007, 11:48:25 PM
Mrs Red and I just want to wish you all a very Happy New Year ... Thank you so much for all that you have done in 2007.
We look forward in 2008 to getting further answers for Natalee's family and the families of all missing persons.
We will soon be putting a New Years Eve post on the front page with some audio that I am sure all will find enjoyable.
Thanks to all.
Happy New Year to you Red and all the Monkeys!
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