Natalee Case Discussion #709 12/30 - 1/3/08

[robots]

i just threw up in a my mouth a little bit 

I did, too, but for a very different reason, I am sure.

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i want you to feel nice 

[yapperz1]

Anna, I am not picking on you. I just feel the fact that Lorenzo was questioned early on in the investigation means someone had to bring up his name. Because Dennis Jacobs doesn't feel he is important to the case is a BIG RED FLAG to me. Dave seemed to feel he was of interest in the case. His name came up way too fast to just be a coinky dink. Until I see proof he wasn't somehow involved I will stick with MOO that he knows plenty.

[Helen Back]

a real athlete
a real delicious sporter

he can drink 5 yards in under 2 minutes

he can rape 5 girls in 4 days

he can steal hundreds of dollars from his parents ina few short hours

he can kill 3 dogs in under 30 minutes

SUPER KILLER

 

      man boobs!

[Anna]

Robots,

Yes, you always eat the bugs for me.  Thank you!

But neither one of us should be having to do that in the first place.  I didn't say a word for four days while Lorenzo was discussed yet when I do, it's the same old same old of EVERY time somebody mentions Lorenzo, you blah blah blah.  No, I don't.

Well, go figure.  Why are some so worried about my posts anyway?  I think I should be able to post what I think the same as anybody else but apparently not.  I'm not real big on anybody that deflects from the Sloots right now and tend to believe Mos is correct in that regard.

Have been saying for several months that my list of suspects is shrinking all the time.  Michael Dompig said Paulus went out on Gottenbos boat around the time Natalee disappeared.  Maybe he wasn't lying.  Who knows.

Just hope the Perseverance is successful.  But even then what?  It would be wonderful to find Natalee AND some evidence of who put her there but not going to get on that roller coaster again.

People ask me for proof all the time but I am not allowed to do it back.  So many rules for me to remember, not sure it's worth it.

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[Lala'sMom]

I think Lorenzo is such a popular topic because in the beginning many of the local Aruban posters were mentioning him and his parties and the drugs.  That to me makes him open for discussion.  If you believe Lorenzo was just a distraction because he was mentioned by posters such as Arubagirl and Native Lingo and AmericaninAruba and others as a distraction...I disagree.  He was into something sinister otherwise his name would not have come up so soon in this case.  Whether he is involved is still unknown.  It is the same as talking about any of the other people such as Mr. Pink or Boeti.  Their names came up and they are fair game...especially if they were questioned or provided an alibi.  What about that Menses guy...we don't much about his part in all this but we still asked questions and speculated.  I say Lorenzo is fair game in a discussion until it's proven he's not.  Otherwise, we need to end all discussion concerning Freddy.  He was only a witness also until they nailed him for the porn video charges and that went away also. For that matter let's not discuss Julia Renfro any longer she is not involved in this crime and neither is Tito.

[bleachedblack]

Anna, I am not picking on you. I just feel the fact that Lorenzo was questioned early on in the investigation means someone had to bring up his name. Because Dennis Jacobs doesn't feel he is important to the case is a BIG RED FLAG to me. Dave seemed to feel he was of interest in the case. His name came up way too fast to just be a coinky dink. Until I see proof he wasn't somehow involved I will stick with MOO that he knows plenty.

Infact I remember reading in Dave's book that Lorenzo's name appeared on a chart on the wall in Jacobs office. When Dave reportedly asked about it........he was blown off. Why would it be there if it was not significant ?

[wreck]

Okay, dammit I'm gonna say it.  Anna, I respect and love you to death for your knowledge, concern, empathy, and detail to this case that you have given for 2 1/2 years. I don't think there is anyone who has put more into this than anyone (with the exception of maybe than Klaass and Red) who is not totally convinced that J2K and their immediate cohorts perpetrated this crime. Did Lorenzo have a role?? Good Lord -- I don't know, but his name certainly comes up a lot and I'm not willingly to dismiss him and his possible involvement simply because someone on the island states they "don't think so." Please don't get so offended when someone simply puts out an opposing opinion.

[Anna]

I think Lorenzo is such a popular topic because in the beginning many of the local Aruban posters were mentioning him and his parties and the drugs.  That to me makes him open for discussion.  If you believe Lorenzo was just a distraction because he was mentioned by posters such as Arubagirl and Native Lingo and AmericaninAruba and others as a distraction...I disagree.  He was into something sinister otherwise his name would not have come up so soon in this case.  Whether he is involved is still unknown.  It is the same as talking about any of the other people such as Mr. Pink or Boeti.  Their names came up and they are fair game...especially if they were questioned or provided an alibi.  What about that Menses guy...we don't much about his part in all this but we still asked questions and speculated.  I say Lorenzo is fair game in a discussion until it's proven he's not.  Otherwise, we need to end all discussion concerning Freddy.  He was only a witness also until they nailed him for the porn video charges and that went away also. For that matter let's not discuss Julia Renfro any longer she is not involved in this crime and neither is Tito.

If you are talking to me, I NEVER said Lorenzo should not be discussed, just that some proof of his involvement would sure be nice once in a while and I think I should be able to state my opinion without being attacked which so far has yet to happen.

Why can only some state their opinion about him but not me?  Without being attacked, that is.

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[robots]

Robots,

Yes, you always eat the bugs for me.  Thank you!

But neither one of us should be having to do that in the first place.  I didn't say a word for four days while Lorenzo was discussed yet when I do, it's the same old same old of EVERY time somebody mentions Lorenzo, you blah blah blah.  No, I don't.

Well, go figure.  Why are some so worried about my posts anyway?  I think I should be able to post what I think the same as anybody else but apparently not.  I'm not real big on anybody that deflects from the Sloots right now and tend to believe Mos is correct in that regard.

Have been saying for several months that my list of suspects is shrinking all the time.  Michael Dompig said Paulus went out on Gottenbos boat around the time Natalee disappeared.  Maybe he wasn't lying.  Who knows.

Just hope the Perseverance is successful.  But even then what?  It would be wonderful to find Natalee AND some evidence of who put her there but not going to get on that roller coaster again.

People ask me for proof all the time but I am not allowed to do it back.  So many rules for me to remember, not sure it's worth it.

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its worth it.
like i said, we need you and we need everyone to keep fighting.
we need everyone...
plus, if you were to leave then i might have to visit you and you might be skeeeeered of robots so we cant have that... so i  will jsut keep eating bugs for you 

"hope" is not a strategy

[robots]

hope is not a strategy

but sometimes it all we got 

[BTgirl]

It seems to me that there are so many people inextricably linked in crime in Aruba, that I'm not sure anyone who has ever been considered a suspect should be totally dismissed at this point. I hate the term "think outside the box," but sometimes that's where the answers come from.

[robots]

It seems to me that there are so many people inextricably linked in crime in Aruba, that I'm not sure anyone who has ever been considered a suspect should be totally dismissed at this point. I hate the term "think outside the box," but sometimes that's where the answers come from.

BT baby


i say
THROW the BOX AWAY 

[Tamikosmom]

Time for a game of Scrabble with hubby and ... then calling it a night.

Janet

HAPPY NEW YEAR MONKEYS!!!

[Anna]

Okay, dammit I'm gonna say it.  Anna, I respect and love you to death for your knowledge, concern, empathy, and detail to this case that you have given for 2 1/2 years. I don't think there is anyone who has put more into this than anyone (with the exception of maybe than Klaass and Red) who is not totally convinced that J2K and their immediate cohorts perpetrated this crime. Did Lorenzo have a role?? Good Lord -- I don't know, but his name certainly comes up a lot and I'm not willingly to dismiss him and his possible involvement simply because someone on the island states they "don't think so." Please don't get so offended when someone simply puts out an opposing opinion.

Wreck,

Lorenzo was discussed here for four days and I didn't say one word.  Go back through the threads and see how many times he was discussed and I didn't open my mouth.

What are you accusing me of now?  Why can't I express my opinion same as anybody else?

Don't say I defend Lorenzo EVERY TIME somebody mentions him for that's not true.  You have said that before but it doesn't make it so.

I didn't say a word for days and usually don't but boy when I do, I should just shut up, right?

Sorry, not gonna happen.  I will state my opinion until I am banned from here whether you, Lala's or anybody else likes it.

I can't for the life of me understand why people go bonkers because I don't agree on this one person about whom we know absolutely nothing for a fact.

You have this very backwards.  I am the one with the dissenting opinion who is attacked every time I express it.

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[BTgirl]

It seems to me that there are so many people inextricably linked in crime in Aruba, that I'm not sure anyone who has ever been considered a suspect should be totally dismissed at this point. I hate the term "think outside the box," but sometimes that's where the answers come from.

BT baby


i say
THROW the BOX AWAY 

 

[Lala'sMom]

I think Lorenzo is such a popular topic because in the beginning many of the local Aruban posters were mentioning him and his parties and the drugs.  That to me makes him open for discussion.  If you believe Lorenzo was just a distraction because he was mentioned by posters such as Arubagirl and Native Lingo and AmericaninAruba and others as a distraction...I disagree.  He was into something sinister otherwise his name would not have come up so soon in this case.  Whether he is involved is still unknown.  It is the same as talking about any of the other people such as Mr. Pink or Boeti.  Their names came up and they are fair game...especially if they were questioned or provided an alibi.  What about that Menses guy...we don't much about his part in all this but we still asked questions and speculated.  I say Lorenzo is fair game in a discussion until it's proven he's not.  Otherwise, we need to end all discussion concerning Freddy.  He was only a witness also until they nailed him for the porn video charges and that went away also. For that matter let's not discuss Julia Renfro any longer she is not involved in this crime and neither is Tito.

If you are talking to me, I NEVER said Lorenzo should not be discussed, just that some proof of his involvement would sure be nice once in a while and I think I should be able to state my opinion without being attacked which so far has yet to happen.

Why can only some state their opinion about him but not me?  Without being attacked, that is.

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I was not talking to you...

[klaasend]

Nite Janet

[crazybabyborg]

Okay -- I have  just caught up.
It seems to me that we are all just a little linged un-hinged tonight. Maybe, just maybe the Persistence crew is about to give us a miracle.

Oh, Wreck. You're a sweet talker! That's been on my mind and in my heart as well. Let's all be mindful of their efforts! 

[Lala'sMom]

Okay, dammit I'm gonna say it.  Anna, I respect and love you to death for your knowledge, concern, empathy, and detail to this case that you have given for 2 1/2 years. I don't think there is anyone who has put more into this than anyone (with the exception of maybe than Klaass and Red) who is not totally convinced that J2K and their immediate cohorts perpetrated this crime. Did Lorenzo have a role?? Good Lord -- I don't know, but his name certainly comes up a lot and I'm not willingly to dismiss him and his possible involvement simply because someone on the island states they "don't think so." Please don't get so offended when someone simply puts out an opposing opinion.

Wreck,

Lorenzo was discussed here for four days and I didn't say one word.  Go back through the threads and see how many times he was discussed and I didn't open my mouth.

What are you accusing me of now?  Why can't I express my opinion same as anybody else?

Don't say I defend Lorenzo EVERY TIME somebody mentions him for that's not true.  You have said that before but it doesn't make it so.

I didn't say a word for days and usually don't but boy when I do, I should just shut up, right?

Sorry, not gonna happen.  I will state my opinion until I am banned from here whether you, Lala's or anybody else likes it.

I can't for the life of me understand why people go bonkers because I don't agree on this one person about whom we know absolutely nothing for a fact.

You have this very backwards.  I am the one with the dissenting opinion who is attacked every time I express it.

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Leave me out of this...I did not start this Lorenzo discussion last night and I refuse to take the blame for it.  I don't care if you disagree or not.  I have only addressed one post to you today so don't think everything I write is about you. I simply was simply trying to figure out why Lorenzo is such a hot topic and stated so in a post. You know I consider him only as a peripheral person in all this.  He was talked about early on and I think that is fair game to discuss his possible involvement.

[yapperz1]

I think all any of us are doing is stating our opinion about Lorenzo. I don't see it as attacking or jumping on anyone when I state MOO or ask questions.
We get asked to prove his involvement but NO ONE has proven to me he was not involved.