Natalee Case Discussion #710 1/03 - 1/09/2007

[Angiex911dsptchr]

If you counted just the suspects that were arrested not including the 2 SG'S this is who I come up with.

1.Deepak
2.Satish
3.Joran
4.Paulus
5.Guido

Guido has always been in the back of my mind.  But then again we have to go with suspects vs witnesses.  According to other news reports Guido is not the 5th person..in fact he doesn't come up at all. So I am still out there looking. He doesn't fit the criteria for the 5th suspect....I thought he was in the casino that night working. My head is beginning to ache again.
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 <~~~~~~~~~~ passing lalas some ADVIL
 lalas.. I agrew with yah.. no Guido as the 5th.   

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I am PATHETIC,.,. Im sorry Lalas.. I screwd up quotes AGAIN..   
 Write me up in your book..   

[Icehawk]

June 17, 2005
Breaking: Fourth Suspect Arrested In Natalee Holloway Disappearance (Updates)
Topics: Natalee Holloway

Updates - see below.

Just breaking, FoxTV reporting that a fourth suspect has been arrested, a 26 year old son of a prominent businessman. A search is presently underway ...


From Scared Monkeys:

"9:17 am: From one of our great sources in Aruba, 'americaninaruba' …

today 6am police go into house in Sta Cruz where they go with one person ……with initials S.C. this arrest took place 6am this morning…surprised the family with this arrest….we got different information, but we want to get all concrete things together before we bring this news to you…..we dont want to confuse anyone! we want to say that their is suspicion that she is ALIVE! but we dont want to bring up any suspicion to anyone but we will be back with info if this person has information for this case…also in Savaneta they took someone for interogation…..we are hoping this will come to an end, with all this suspicion we believe shes alive…..'

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At 9:50 am: MSNBC & Fox have just reported the arrest of a fourth suspect. A 27 year old man.
It has been confirmed by Fox speaking to individual in Justice department 4th arrest 26 year old friend of joran."

More to come.

I still think we are looking at a drug/alcohol issue; could this guy have sold a date rape drug to Joran? Pure speculation. On the other hand, I hope that she just ran away - at least she'd be alive.

Update:

AP via Yahoo - The person was identified by the attorney general's office only as a 26-year-old with the initials S.G.C.

Also in custody are 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot, the son of a justice official on Aruba, and his two friends, Surinamese brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18.

Update: (Possible 5th supect) 10:45 AM via Scared Monkeys.
There is a rumor of another person taken into custody, whose father recently committed suicide and who has had serious mental issues since. He has two homes, a house on the main road of savaneta and also another one in Seroe Alejandro, and was known for having underground parties.

A subsequent update from Scared Monkeys notes that there is no 5th suspect. However, Natalee's mom has stated publicly that she expects more arrests(see below).

Update via reader MC: Latest suspect is Steve Gregory Croes, a DJ on a party boat.

Tallahassee Democrat:

[...]
Steve Gregory Croes, 26, whom authorities earlier identified only by the initials S.G.C., said he was contacted by police Thursday night and voluntarily gave a statement, said his employer, Marcus Wiggins. Croes also said he knew one of two Surinamese brothers being detained in the case because they went to the same Internet cafe, Wiggins told The Associated Press.Croes was a DJ on the Tattoo, which offers nightly dining, dancing and swimming, Wiggins said. Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, said she believed there might be more arrests before the case was resolved. She did not elaborate.



http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/06/breaking_fourth.php




******* is this what you are looking for?

[Observer]

Ducking for cover *******.. but IMO  Lorenzo OR  PVDS was the 5th from all I have read over the past.  IMO  or MOO or whatever it is. 

Your right..But just trying to give my 2 cents and help out Lala..She deserves to know who is no 5 in Shangos eyes 

[Observer]

Lala:

I messed up..GVC was arrested before Guido in April 2006..So he is no5 suspect not including the 2 SG'S.

[texasmom]

We are going on 3 days now since we last heard from Kyle He hasn't updated the blog or has he updated the comments. Haven't seen him on SM either,He may have caught a flight back home and is resting? I would imagine we will hear soon if the search is done or whats goin on? Hopefully they are all safe and in good health.

From what I have heard, they are definitely still searching.

thank goodness....I needed to hear (read) that!  I've washed and blow dryed one sheltie with a very thick coat and am resting for a minute before I do the other.  I'm so tired, I'm not tired.....but I have extremely too much nervous energy.  My sons think I'm losing it, I'm sure.  One of them asked me why in the world I started washing the dogs after 10pm, I just looked at him and he quietly went to his room......In case you can't tell I'm a rather anxious monkey..... my insides feel like this!

 I feel for you. Trust me !!     We need to relax .. 

thanks Angie   

[Lala'sMom]

We are going on 3 days now since we last heard from Kyle He hasn't updated the blog or has he updated the comments. Haven't seen him on SM either,He may have caught a flight back home and is resting? I would imagine we will hear soon if the search is done or whats goin on? Hopefully they are all safe and in good health.

From what I have heard, they are definitely still searching.

thank goodness....I needed to hear (read) that!  I've washed and blow dryed one sheltie with a very thick coat and am resting for a minute before I do the other.  I'm so tired, I'm not tired.....but I have extremely too much nervous energy.  My sons think I'm losing it, I'm sure.  One of them asked me why in the world I started washing the dogs after 10pm, I just looked at him and he quietly went to his room......In case you can't tell I'm a rather anxious monkey..... my insides feel like this!

Sit here with us...give me your hand.  I have been here for a long time, as have so many others, and we are in for the long haul.  I only have to put myself in Beth and Dave's shoes and think how awful it has been for them.  That is when you get grounded and know there are still some really great people left in this cruel world and a lot of them are on the Persistence.  Until they officially close this case and hand the files over to the family...I will be here. 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Ducking for cover *******.. but IMO  Lorenzo OR  PVDS was the 5th from all I have read over the past.  IMO  or MOO or whatever it is. 

Your right..But just trying to give my 2 cents and help out Lala..She deserves to know who is no 5 in Shangos eyes 


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  Yep,, I agree with yah 100%   

[Observer]

Hi Icehawk 

Ive read about those 3 days on every board imagineable..Even translated a dutch one the other day  Most definitely believe no5 is Lorenzo but I think we are covering all our bases to make sure  Nobody counts the security guards not even in the articles 

[Lala'sMom]

Ducking for cover *******.. but IMO  Lorenzo OR  PVDS was the 5th from all I have read over the past.  IMO  or MOO or whatever it is. 

Your right..But just trying to give my 2 cents and help out Lala..She deserves to know who is no 5 in Shangos eyes 

I hate to correct the mod around here...but honey, Shango does not talk about the 5th suspect...it is Simian.  I won't comment any further on the above.  (Can I call a moderator honey?)

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Me thinks I need to go.. I have managed to mess up quite a few posts..    I apologize..
Have a good night everyone. again HUGS to our CP an Nemo.   
 Hope this post turns out ok?   lol     

[Bearlyhere]

What's going on around here?  Are you guys playing strip poker?

Klaas is out of her cage and Angie changed right in front of us.

Deal me in!!!

[texasmom]

We are going on 3 days now since we last heard from Kyle He hasn't updated the blog or has he updated the comments. Haven't seen him on SM either,He may have caught a flight back home and is resting? I would imagine we will hear soon if the search is done or whats goin on? Hopefully they are all safe and in good health.

From what I have heard, they are definitely still searching.

thank goodness....I needed to hear (read) that!  I've washed and blow dryed one sheltie with a very thick coat and am resting for a minute before I do the other.  I'm so tired, I'm not tired.....but I have extremely too much nervous energy.  My sons think I'm losing it, I'm sure.  One of them asked me why in the world I started washing the dogs after 10pm, I just looked at him and he quietly went to his room......In case you can't tell I'm a rather anxious monkey..... my insides feel like this!

Sit here with us...give me your hand.  I have been here for a long time, as have so many others, and we are in for the long haul.  I only have to put myself in Beth and Dave's shoes and think how awful it has been for them.  That is when you get grounded and know there are still some really great people left in this cruel world and a lot of them are on the Persistence.  Until they officially close this case and hand the files over to the family...I will be here. 

such kind words Lala's thank you so much, and I'm so glad you're here....

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Ducking for cover *******.. but IMO  Lorenzo OR  PVDS was the 5th from all I have read over the past.  IMO  or MOO or whatever it is. 

Your right..But just trying to give my 2 cents and help out Lala..She deserves to know who is no 5 in Shangos eyes 

I hate to correct the mod around here...but honey, Shango does not talk about the 5th suspect...it is Simian.  I won't comment any further on the above.  (Can I call a moderator honey?)

  LMAO  Ummmmmmmmmmm I think you just did     TY for the laugh before I head to bed  Lalas.. !

[Lala'sMom]

I am PATHETIC,.,. Im sorry Lalas.. I screwd up quotes AGAIN..   
 Write me up in your book..   

Thanks for the Advil...I think it's all those hearts getting in your way.  Stand still! 

[Observer]

Ducking for cover *******.. but IMO  Lorenzo OR  PVDS was the 5th from all I have read over the past.  IMO  or MOO or whatever it is. 

Your right..But just trying to give my 2 cents and help out Lala..She deserves to know who is no 5 in Shangos eyes 

I hate to correct the mod around here...but honey, Shango does not talk about the 5th suspect...it is Simian.  I won't comment any further on the above.  (Can I call a moderator honey?)

Sorry meant Simian  I left all the studying of shango/simian to you codebreakers 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

What's going on around here?  Are you guys playing strip poker?

Klaas is out of her cage and Angie changed right in front of us.

Deal me in!!!

 LMAO   CBB made me a new outfit.. I didnt even ask    Sorry if I skeered you all changing  lol

[Tamikosmom]

I believe your right Janet..So maybee it was Freddy arrested at 6AM on the 11th. The report said a man in his 20's so that could be almost anyone in this case

I believe that Freddy was question as a witness on June 12, 2005 but ... was never detained (arrested) as a suspect.

Good Night Monkeys ... for real this time.   

Janet

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JORAN, DEEPAK, SATISH, PAULUS AND STEVE
FOX NEWS
June 24, 2005

Joran van der Sloot (search) and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are being held under suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

A fourth man, party boat DJ Steve Croes, is being held under the same conditions.

The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.

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Kalpoe v. McGraw, et al.
Case Number: BC3 63401

Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 12 June 2005 / 11:05
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement of Joran van der Sloot's neighbor/friend


Freddy Arambatzis
Joran's Book
June 12, 2005

Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house.

He told me that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together.

After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her.

They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba.

The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves.

After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub. Joran looked worried. He asked me if I could remember what he had said the previous day about the girl. I told him yes.

[Lala'sMom]

What's going on around here?  Are you guys playing strip poker?

Klaas is out of her cage and Angie changed right in front of us.

Deal me in!!!

Hi there! Where have you been?  Missed your little bear face. We are just talking Shango and Simian again...I am sure you are not surprised. 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I am PATHETIC,.,. Im sorry Lalas.. I screwd up quotes AGAIN..   
 Write me up in your book..   

Thanks for the Advil...I think it's all those hearts getting in your way.  Stand still! 

   LOL IM trying.. but. Im worse in real life.. and I WILL stand still one of these days !   
CBB gave me the heart~ons..        LOL    And dont you run for those damn MUFFS either.