Natalee Case Discussion #711 1/08 - 1/12/08

[Magnolia]

Anyone case related?

newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--heroinbust0110jan10,0,6476827.story

Newsday.com
Authorities seize 8 kilograms of heroin worth more than $500K
4:16 PM EST, January 10, 2008

SEACAUCUS, N.J.
(snip)
State Police Lt. Mark Kelly said Ramona Rodriguez-Tejada, 49, was arrested Wednesday as she attempted to board a bus in Secaucus. He says the powdered heroin she allegedly possessed is worth an estimated $520,000 and likely was smuggled through Aruba.
(snip)

The funny thing about this story is that she was riding a bus to move
half a million dollars worth of Heroin.

[WhiskeyGirl]

Anyone case related?

newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--heroinbust0110jan10,0,6476827.story

Newsday.com
Authorities seize 8 kilograms of heroin worth more than $500K
4:16 PM EST, January 10, 2008

SEACAUCUS, N.J.
(snip)
State Police Lt. Mark Kelly said Ramona Rodriguez-Tejada, 49, was arrested Wednesday as she attempted to board a bus in Secaucus. He says the powdered heroin she allegedly possessed is worth an estimated $520,000 and likely was smuggled through Aruba.
(snip)

We should check to see if there's anyone MIA from RU 

There have been suggestions that many have been banned from RU recently.  However, this does not mean by any stretch of the imagination or speculation, that they are 'missing'.  They may have run away.  Prior to running away, they many have said bad things.  My opinion, of course. 

Maybe the climate is changing and it's ok to say people are missing in Aruba.  I don't know.   

[JusticeforNatalee]

In response to questions about Travel Show info:
2 VERY IMPORTANT TRAVEL SHOWS COMING UP!

Boston is first

http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/

[JusticeforNatalee]

NY is next:
http://www.nyttravelshow.com/

Okay, all you New Englanders and New Yorkers.
Don’t be shy. Natalee needs you. The group going needs you.

Bostonians and New Yorkers need to be reminded of the injustice done to Natalee.

Tourists need to be educated.

Boston and NY are major events.

Come and help out. Hold a sign. Hand out flyers and giveaways.
If you can only help for a day or a few hours, still volunteer.

Ask anyone who has attended these shows–you will feel so good about the way you helped Natalee.

So whatever it takes to get there, please try.
If you have to share rides, etc. to get there, just do it.
Where there is a will, there is a way.

Look on Yahoo: Last year I found an inexpensive flight for only $50 each way.

Please contact Vicki: JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
if you want to attend or help in any way.

ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

Thank you and peace to all of you.
 

[JusticeforNatalee]

 T-shirts and sweatshirts bearing Natalee's image have been donated for
all supporters attending the shows. The sweatshirts are very warm.

[Observer]

Very sad what happened to that Bulgarian tourist and it was probably a accident. I noticed after I posted the picture of the cuts and dried blood on his feet Imageshack took down the picture. If there is a Forensic Pathologist reading here please view the pics on the FP. Sorry if I offended anyone,I just don't trust anything Aruba has to say and for good reason. I have seen two recent hangings where both men had there hand in one pocket,a american locked in a storage bin,a tele-aruba producer and her camera man both hung within weeks and Pitbull who's head was bashed in,body parts cut off and set on fire. All ruled suicides and this was just a fraction of the suspicious deaths the last 3 years.

[Magnolia]

I just read something that was actually true at RU.
Paulus would be no good at cards because he would
start to sweat and everyone would know what he had.
 

[Observer]

I just read something that was actually true at RU.
Paulus would be no good at cards because he would
start to sweat and everyone would know what he had.
 

Heh..Well we know he sucks at lying! Well they both do 

PVDS says in his PV he played a free Carribean Stud Tournament that Joran took over. Joran says it was a Texas Hold EM Tournament. Amazing that they couldn't even get that lie correct. Joran says he won like $150(300 Florin?) which he gave$100 to his dad for taking his seat,Apparently it was too much money for the big gamblers so PVDS had to go to the bank the next day to deposit it  Didnt Joran lose like $150 that night in BJ? $5 Minumum hands in BJ will catch up to ya quickly when losing PVDS the next day was urgently trying to deposit this little bit of money that Joran allegedly won is laughable. Joran by his own admission was losing or winning a couple hundred a night.

We also saw a PV of Jorans friend who lended him money because Joran didn't have any after the tournament. PVDS says he leaves at 18:30 to go home but appears to be on film at 20:14. Joran is playing BJ at 20:14 so when did he take his fathers place in this tournament if he was playing BJ? In his statements he says he played the tournament until 22:00. You cannot be playing BJ and playing at another table at the same time. Surely it would have taken him hours at least 3 more to reach a final table and finish in 4th place. Why so many lies about what took place in the casino? What was Paul's real reason for going to the bank?

When I was a kid I could always tell when my brother was lying. About the 10th time asking him if he was lying his nostrils would move a bit

[robots]

the bank story was a LOAD OF CRAP 

[Magnolia]

the bank story was a LOAD OF CRAP 

So...why was it so important to account for the time at the bank
or to invent a reason to go to the bank?
Joran said several times that he kept cash at his room.
Paulus picked Joran up at school at 12:30 and they went to
the police station.  What did they do then?

I get confused when you use BJ for Black Jack, *******

[Observer]

Your right Robots,It's all a load of crap!! I see Joran tells PVDS he won $150 U.S. but Sanders says $350 U.S. Now how much did Joran say he won in his PV?

150.00 USD = 223 guilders
150.00 USD = 270 Florin

(6-18 PV)Joran had told me he had won third place, he said he had won 150$ and had exchanged these into Aruban Florin.

(6-23 PV)At the bank I talked to Ruth DIJKHOFF. At the bank I deposited the
money that Joran said that he had won in the “Free Tournament in
the Holiday Inn” on the 29th of May 2005. It was approximately
500 Aruban guilders. Joran had given me 100 guilders because he
had taken over my place in the tournament.

(PVDS 6-18)I immediately called him with my wife's mobile phone and he answered me that he was at the Wyndham. Where was Anita's phone on May 30th-June 1st and what calls were made?

What call's were made on Anitas phone and where from on 5-30 to 6-1-05?

[Observer]

the bank story was a LOAD OF CRAP 

So...why was it so important to account for the time at the bank
or to invent a reason to go to the bank?
Joran said several times that he kept cash at his room.
Paulus picked Joran up at school at 12:30 and they went to
the police station.  What did they do then?

I get confused when you use BJ for Black Jack, *******

Something awful fishy about what happened at the Casino and why he said he went to the bank. I guess we can't talk to Ruth Dijkhoff because she's dead  Obviously if PVDS was at the bank it was to make a large transaction or to get access to the video camera tape. Still not quite sure why they are lying so much about the casino and the bank.

Sorry to confuse you  Sometimes my posts are way to wordy 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I just started a thread at Oprah's message board about the show next week...yes, the wingnuts will be out in full force, but I felt I should do something.

Justice for Natalee Holloway
Jan 10, 2008 9:34 PM 2njsons
1 posts since
Jan 10, 2008
 I'm glad to see you will have Beth Holloway and her son, Matt, on your show next week. The case needs to be heard and seen on the networks and it's finally going to be on yours. There are many who have supported the family from the outset, which will be 3 long years this May.

Justice for Natalee

[texasmom]

*******,
I may have missed something.  Did PVDS visit the ATM twice in the early morning hours of 5/30 or was that misinformation? 

[Magnolia]

Your right Robots,It's all a load of crap!! I see Joran tells PVDS he won $150 U.S. but Sanders says $350 U.S. Now how much did Joran say he won in his PV?

150.00 USD = 223 guilders
150.00 USD = 270 Florin

(6-18 PV)Joran had told me he had won third place, he said he had won 150$ and had exchanged these into Aruban Florin.

(6-23 PV)At the bank I talked to Ruth DIJKHOFF. At the bank I deposited the
money that Joran said that he had won in the “Free Tournament in
the Holiday Inn” on the 29th of May 2005. It was approximately
500 Aruban guilders. Joran had given me 100 guilders because he
had taken over my place in the tournament.

(PVDS 6-18)I immediately called him with my wife's mobile phone and he answered me that he was at the Wyndham. Where was Anita's phone on May 30th-June 1st and what calls were made?

What call's were made on Anitas phone and where from on 5-30 to 6-1-05?

I figure that Anita had Paulus' phone with her in NL....his had the International
calling and hers didn't.

[Observer]

*******,
I may have missed something.  Did PVDS visit the ATM twice in the early morning hours of 5/30 or was that misinformation? 

That is one of the first rumors that we heard about all of this. I have never seen anything official if it was fact or fiction. My gut tell's me it is true and he was seen in that red jeep at 4AM. Probably was at a ATM near a Mcdonalds.

[Kermit]

*******,
I may have missed something.  Did PVDS visit the ATM twice in the early morning hours of 5/30 or was that misinformation? 

That is one of the first rumors that we heard about all of this. I have never seen anything official if it was fact or fiction. My gut tell's me it is true and he was seen in that red jeep at 4AM. Probably was at a ATM near a Mcdonalds.

4. PAULUS ATM USED THE NIGHT NATALEE DISAPPEARED: (Tito Lacle is a reporter for Fox News, who lives in Aruba and he posted at scared monkeys answering questions as Iam Tito)

ATMS
IamTito
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Location: aruba
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: more answers    Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Mishy.. activity on ATMS have not been revealed.. its limited though

[Kermit]

the bank story was a LOAD OF CRAP 

Digicel is next door to the CMB bank.

[Kermit]

I just read something that was actually true at RU.
Paulus would be no good at cards because he would
start to sweat and everyone would know what he had.
 

I believe he already showed us what he had
heh heh

[mrs. red]

Dang Kermie....

I was all lurking and you just made me nauseous