Natalee Case Discussion #711 1/08 - 1/12/08

[crazybabyborg]

DeVries' wife had a few words of her own. I'd like an exact translation of it. I hate that the shot was blocked of her aim at Joran. I do hope she got him right between the eyes.

[Tamikosmom]

Greta/Joran Interview Part 2
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VAN SUSTEREN: What's the anger management stuff, though? At some point, correct me if I'm wrong, that you were getting some sort of — you know, that — were you going to some courses or classes or something? Was there a problem with that?
VAN DER SLOOT: No, I never went to any.
VAN SUSTEREN: Nothing like that? Never been an anger issue?
VAN DER SLOOT: No. Never. No.
VAN SUSTEREN: That's just all made up?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Totally — totally fiction?
VAN DER SLOOT: Totally made up.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK.
VAN DER SLOOT: Totally fiction.

 

 

[San]

I'd like to know what Joran says just after throwing the wine...he turns his head a bit and says something. (I noticed that mostly in the slow motion video)
Also...in HotShots video just as Peter's wife throws water at Joran I can hear words that say...you can forget about being paid now....or something like that. Was that sound from the video or from other background noise at HotShots house??

Nut ... do you have the link to the slow motion video?

Thanks

Janet

Someone has probably already posted...it took me a while to find it...Paulus smiled..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqdBSFwpyw

If I was the woman who threw the water back at Joran I would have whipped the glass right at his head.  And let me tell you I throw pretty hard 

[Tamikosmom]

I'd like to know what Joran says just after throwing the wine...he turns his head a bit and says something. (I noticed that mostly in the slow motion video)
Also...in HotShots video just as Peter's wife throws water at Joran I can hear words that say...you can forget about being paid now....or something like that. Was that sound from the video or from other background noise at HotShots house??

Nut ... do you have the link to the slow motion video?

Thanks

Janet

Someone has probably already posted...it took me a while to find it...Paulus smiled..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqdBSFwpyw

Thanks 2NJ

Janet

[klaasend]

I put EURoberts full translation of the show into a thread of it's own:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2522.0

[Anna]

Remember Joran told Greta he didn't know what time it was the night Natalee disappeared because he never wore a watch.  He is wearing one in the video as well as below.  There are other photos of him wearing a watch as well.  Just a minor thing to point out the ease with which Joran lies and Greta is inclined to believe him without checking anything.

[AZSunny]

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyW8zoNU5I

Thanks Hotshot. I could only get audio with the Nova link. I took the video second by second and paused it. I don't see anyone laughing, Sloots or studio staff.

Your Welcome.  I don't think I see them laughing either, but Anita is pretty upset for sure.

Yes, she is and she's turned toward Joran with it. Paulus, too, turns toward Joran. I don't think anyone thought it was funny judging from what I can see in the video.

CBB in the first video we saw, the hosts and paulus appear to be laughing.  Absolutely laughing.

[Tamikosmom]

I put EURoberts full translation of the show into a thread of it's own:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2522.0

Thanks you Klaas.

Thank you Robert for translating and sharing.  Incredible job!

Janet

[Anna]

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyW8zoNU5I

Thanks Hotshot. I could only get audio with the Nova link. I took the video second by second and paused it. I don't see anyone laughing, Sloots or studio staff.

Your Welcome.  I don't think I see them laughing either, but Anita is pretty upset for sure.

Yes, she is and she's turned toward Joran with it. Paulus, too, turns toward Joran. I don't think anyone thought it was funny judging from what I can see in the video.

CBB in the first video we saw, the hosts and paulus appear to be laughing.  Absolutely laughing.

Yes, that's how it appeared to me as well.  Could have been a frozen smile on Paulus face until it sunk in what he had just seen maybe but is a smile nonetheless.

MO

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[ldstlou]

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyW8zoNU5I

Thanks Hotshot. I could only get audio with the Nova link. I took the video second by second and paused it. I don't see anyone laughing, Sloots or studio staff.

Your Welcome.  I don't think I see them laughing either, but Anita is pretty upset for sure.

Yes, she is and she's turned toward Joran with it. Paulus, too, turns toward Joran. I don't think anyone thought it was funny judging from what I can see in the video.

CBB in the first video we saw, the hosts and paulus appear to be laughing.  Absolutely laughing.

I thought the same about paulus..at least smirking the sloot smirk

[Nut44x4]

From a few combined posts of Glendas/Julias at RU yesterday and today

Here is what she thinks happened to Natalee >>>

Glenda says:
They knew that they'd never have to pay the reward.

The first reward of $10,000 was to be announced at Sunrise the day after the medjet arrived, you know, the jet that was supposed to be waiting on the tarmac after pulling her out of the drug house. Why would they post a reward after the rescue? Because they knew they'd never have to pay it.

Nail on the head...

I believe they rescued her from a bad situation. It cost a pretty penny and that would be the reason for posting the reward after her recovery. They knew it would never have to be paid and Reward = Airtime = More donations to cover the original amount. Beth had to pay back the Fab 7 for coming up with the cash for the return of her wayward daughter.

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[ldstlou]

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyW8zoNU5I

Thanks Hotshot. I could only get audio with the Nova link. I took the video second by second and paused it. I don't see anyone laughing, Sloots or studio staff.

Your Welcome.  I don't think I see them laughing either, but Anita is pretty upset for sure.

Yes, she is and she's turned toward Joran with it. Paulus, too, turns toward Joran. I don't think anyone thought it was funny judging from what I can see in the video.

CBB in the first video we saw, the hosts and paulus appear to be laughing.  Absolutely laughing.

Yes, that's how it appeared to me as well.  Could have been a frozen smile on Paulus face until it sunk in what he had just seen maybe but is a smile nonetheless.

MO

.

Hey Anna!! Good find on the watch.
I was struck the other day on the posture of paulus...it gave me chills because it appeared to be so like the posture of the man in the video. I thought maybe someone (not me..not good at that stuff!! lol) could do some side by side shots of paulus in the interview and pualus in the casino.

[klaasend]

Posted by Portia at RU:

portia Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:39 pm   

I've been doing some more research for our upcoming cruise that will include a port call in Aruba. Came across this in a cruise review from May, 2007:

I asked our driver, Richard, a native of Aruba, what was the local buzz with regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance exactly two years ago. He echoed the popular stateside belief that (excuse my spelling) van der Sloot, knows exactly what happened to her and that his judge wanna-be father, had the necessary legal connections to put in the fix with the local authorities. Aruba now has its own O.J. celebrity. He has changed his story on the evening’s events at least eight times. Book him Danno… murder one!!! Richard drove us past the beach next to Natalee’s hotel where he supposedly left her relaxing on the beach at 3 a.m. Gag me with a Smurf, somebody get a rope for this guy, his father and the Kalpo brother accomplices!  

[Nut44x4]

Site meter is getting all kinds of hits from Netherlands, lol.
Utrecht, Utrecht
Arnhem, Gelderland
Thorn, Limburg
Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant
Venlo, Limburg
Leiden, Zuid-Holland
Siddeburen, Groningen
Delft, Zuid-Holland

[Magnolia]

From a few combined posts of Glendas/Julias at RU yesterday and today

Here is what she thinks happened to Natalee >>>

Glenda says:
They knew that they'd never have to pay the reward.

The first reward of $10,000 was to be announced at Sunrise the day after the medjet arrived, you know, the jet that was supposed to be waiting on the tarmac after pulling her out of the drug house. Why would they post a reward after the rescue? Because they knew they'd never have to pay it.

Nail on the head...

I believe they rescued her from a bad situation. It cost a pretty penny and that would be the reason for posting the reward after her recovery. They knew it would never have to be paid and Reward = Airtime = More donations to cover the original amount. Beth had to pay back the Fab 7 for coming up with the cash for the return of her wayward daughter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

That woman has been spewing her lies from the beginning.  It makes no difference
that she has been proven to be a liar over and over again.  Only the Refugees believe
her and many of them have started to question her.  She just invents and bashes
Beth and Natalee.  It has to be more than the agenda of the AHATA.

[private eye]

From a few combined posts of Glendas/Julias at RU yesterday and today

Here is what she thinks happened to Natalee >>>

Glenda says:
They knew that they'd never have to pay the reward.

The first reward of $10,000 was to be announced at Sunrise the day after the medjet arrived, you know, the jet that was supposed to be waiting on the tarmac after pulling her out of the drug house. Why would they post a reward after the rescue? Because they knew they'd never have to pay it.

Nail on the head...

I believe they rescued her from a bad situation. It cost a pretty penny and that would be the reason for posting the reward after her recovery. They knew it would never have to be paid and Reward = Airtime = More donations to cover the original amount. Beth had to pay back the Fab 7 for coming up with the cash for the return of her wayward daughter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

That woman has been spewing her lies from the beginning.  It makes no difference
that she has been proven to be a liar over and over again.  Only the Refugees believe
her and many of them have started to question her.  She just invents and bashes
Beth and Natalee.  It has to be more than the agenda of the AHATA.

The United States took a huge collective bowel movement expelling Julia from her bowels to Aruba, and never looked back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[private eye]

A bit graphic?

[dennisintn]

From a few combined posts of Glendas/Julias at RU yesterday and today

Here is what she thinks happened to Natalee >>>

Glenda says:
They knew that they'd never have to pay the reward.

The first reward of $10,000 was to be announced at Sunrise the day after the medjet arrived, you know, the jet that was supposed to be waiting on the tarmac after pulling her out of the drug house. Why would they post a reward after the rescue? Because they knew they'd never have to pay it.

Nail on the head...

I believe they rescued her from a bad situation. It cost a pretty penny and that would be the reason for posting the reward after her recovery. They knew it would never have to be paid and Reward = Airtime = More donations to cover the original amount. Beth had to pay back the Fab 7 for coming up with the cash for the return of her wayward daughter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

That woman has been spewing her lies from the beginning.  It makes no difference
that she has been proven to be a liar over and over again.  Only the Refugees believe
her and many of them have started to question her.  She just invents and bashes
Beth and Natalee.  It has to be more than the agenda of the AHATA.

i'm more and more inclined to believe julia/glenda was in on the fix from the very beginning.  she gave beth and family way too many bad tips and bad advice from the very start.  she really needs to back off those drug and alcohol mixtures she's evidently pouring down every day.  imho, trash like what comes out of her mind do not come from a sound mind.  particularly since she expects everyone else to believe it like gospel.
dennisintn

[Magnolia]

From a few combined posts of Glendas/Julias at RU yesterday and today

Here is what she thinks happened to Natalee >>>

Glenda says:
They knew that they'd never have to pay the reward.

The first reward of $10,000 was to be announced at Sunrise the day after the medjet arrived, you know, the jet that was supposed to be waiting on the tarmac after pulling her out of the drug house. Why would they post a reward after the rescue? Because they knew they'd never have to pay it.

Nail on the head...

I believe they rescued her from a bad situation. It cost a pretty penny and that would be the reason for posting the reward after her recovery. They knew it would never have to be paid and Reward = Airtime = More donations to cover the original amount. Beth had to pay back the Fab 7 for coming up with the cash for the return of her wayward daughter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

That woman has been spewing her lies from the beginning.  It makes no difference
that she has been proven to be a liar over and over again.  Only the Refugees believe
her and many of them have started to question her.  She just invents and bashes
Beth and Natalee.  It has to be more than the agenda of the AHATA.

The United States took a huge collective bowel movement expelling Julia from her bowels to Aruba, and never looked back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PI,  I think you just said Julia Renfro is a POS.

[klaasend]

A bit graphic?

  Maybe but true