Natalee Case Discussion #711 1/08 - 1/12/08

[Observer]

In this statement Joran said he lost and says nothing of making final table and placing 3rd or 4th. Neither him or Paul was playing in that tournament at 20.00 hours that I am sure of. None of this makes any sense and everything eventually was a lie. I think it was PVDS who cooked up the lie about winning money so he had a excuse to go to the bank. They are trying to make the timeline 2 hours later but they are caught on video at 20:14 playing BJ. He says he didn't play BJ until after 22:00..I believe Natalee was in the hotel getting ready for C&C at that time.

Joran 6/9 statement
At my father's request I sat in for him and played "Texas Hold'm poker. I am not sure as to when half time was but I think it was between 19.00 and 20.00 hours. I kept on gambling until I lost too. This was according to me until 21.30 to 22.00 hours.I went to walk around in the casino and after that went to the "Blackjack" table to play blackjack. While I was sitting at the table the girl "Natalee" that is missing now to the blackjack table together with her friends

[texasmom]

Pretty Pups, Texasmom.

thanks Magnolia!

[Bearlyhere]

I just read something that was actually true at RU.
Paulus would be no good at cards because he would
start to sweat and everyone would know what he had.
 

Now we know who is "Dirty Hand'"

Better make that "Slimy Hand."

Oh, no, I have an Aruban avatar--it disappears!

[texasmom]

In this statement Joran said he lost and says nothing of making final table and placing 3rd or 4th. Neither him or Paul was playing in that tournament at 20.00 hours that I am sure of. None of this makes any sense and everything eventually was a lie. I think it was PVDS who cooked up the lie about winning money so he had a excuse to go to the bank. They are trying to make the timeline 2 hours later but they are caught on video at 20:14 playing BJ. He says he didn't play BJ until after 22:00..I believe Natalee was in the hotel getting ready for C&C at that time.

Joran 6/9 statement
At my father's request I sat in for him and played "Texas Hold'm poker. I am not sure as to when half time was but I think it was between 19.00 and 20.00 hours. I kept on gambling until I lost too. This was according to me until 21.30 to 22.00 hours.I went to walk around in the casino and after that went to the "Blackjack" table to play blackjack. While I was sitting at the table the girl "Natalee" that is missing now to the blackjack table together with her friends

good job *******!

[Observer]

Thx TM! I know all this has been gone through with a magnifying glass but just bothers me that none of there lies/statements add up. Not even the time before Natalee went missing

[texasmom]

I just read something that was actually true at RU.
Paulus would be no good at cards because he would
start to sweat and everyone would know what he had.
 

Now we know who is "Dirty Hand'"

Better make that "Slimy Hand."

Oh, no, I have an Aruban avatar--it disappears!

LMAO!

[sirensong]

Thx TM! I know all this has been gone through with a magnifying glass but just bothers me that none of there lies/statements add up. Not even the time before Natalee went missing

Yes, and that the Dutch nor the Arubans even bothered to get to the bottom of these lies.  And the judges didn't think all this lying was enough evidence to hold them.  Or that all this lying was obstucting justice.  And that Joran can put on his smug smile for the cameras after all this lying.   

[texasmom]

Thx TM! I know all this has been gone through with a magnifying glass but just bothers me that none of there lies/statements add up. Not even the time before Natalee went missing

People that lie as much as these people do DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL THE TRUTH!
Plus they never had any fear of being accountable for their lies so they didn't care how many they told.  When and if they were ever confronted with inconsistencies, or couldn't remember WHAT they'd said, they could just choose to not answer since they'd already made a statement. 

[oceanexploration]

Yet another interesting night on board the Persistence.  If you wanted to know where the search grid was, why not just ask?  I'm suprised I have never been asked that question. 

[Observer]

Yet another interesting night on board the Persistence.  If you wanted to know where the search grid was, why not just ask?  I'm suprised I have never been asked that question. 

You guys would make great explorers back in the 1400's and would rival with the best even the Vikings  I pray you go down in the history books on that kind of legendary status,finding Natalee would definetly be a unbelievable achievement.. Either way you guys are still heroes in our books for making the attempt..

Where yall searchin? Wheres the search grid? 

[Magnolia]

Yet another interesting night on board the Persistence.  If you wanted to know where the search grid was, why not just ask?  I'm suprised I have never been asked that question. 

OK, Ocean, I am asking.  I would also like to know the legend on the colors.
If you wouldn't mind.  We were worried about you when your internet was
down.  I would also like to know where TES searched before.
Thank you kindly.

[texasmom]

Hi Oceanexploration!

So good to see you, hope everything is going your way out there!

[Observer]

Just reading old PV'S and the name Chato appeared(Leonardo)We havent heard to much about him have we? I wonder if his Ford PU is white?
Also i saw this in Satish statement on the 11th. Why was Paul sleeping in the main house?
The father of Joran at that moment was sleeping inside the house.

[oceanexploration]

I don't like the phrasing of "going down" in history.  It implies sinking, and/or death - a sure way to enter the history books following achievement.  I plan on neither any time soon. By now I'm sure the RU-ites have done Google search comparisons and figured it out from the pic I posted.  It's a 5.5 x ~10 mile grid.  NW side of the island. Perhaps I should have included a scale bar on the fig..

[texasmom]

YOU ARE OUR HEROES PERSISTENCE CREW!

[oceanexploration]

Well back to work.  Goodnight all.  God bless.  Thanks for the prayers and words of encouragment. All the crew is sincerely thankful for the support. ~K

[klaasend]

I don't like the phrasing of "going down" in history.  It implies sinking, and/or death - a sure way to enter the history books following achievement.  I plan on neither any time soon. By now I'm sure the RU-ites have done Google search comparisons and figured it out from the pic I posted.  It's a 5.5 x ~10 mile grid.  NW side of the island. Perhaps I should have included a scale bar on the fig..

RU has been busy fighting amongst themselves tonight and I don't think they noticed it yet 

[Magnolia]

Ocean,
I have another question....right off of the brach on that
North Western tip down toward Arishi beach you can
see a very large rectangular object in the water and
the waves break over it.  It would nearly have to be
manmade due to the straight edges.  Do you know
what it is?
I see it on the global incident map.

[klaasend]

Well back to work.  Goodnight all.  God bless.  Thanks for the prayers and words of encouragment. All the crew is sincerely thankful for the support. ~K

Goodnight Kyle - thanks for all you and the rest of the crew are doing!

[Observer]

I don't like the phrasing of "going down" in history.  It implies sinking, and/or death - a sure way to enter the history books following achievement.  I plan on neither any time soon. By now I'm sure the RU-ites have done Google search comparisons and figured it out from the pic I posted.  It's a 5.5 x ~10 mile grid.  NW side of the island. Perhaps I should have included a scale bar on the fig..

Sorry, not the best choice of words  Naw..You guys are on a mission from Gawd as the Blues Brothers would say and I expect a safe voyage until everyone is safe back home..No one has ever searched the bottom of those seas like you have..Similar to the great explorers of the 15th and 16th centuries who sailed into the unknown and made history when they discovered the new world..Of Course the first Viking found the New World by accident