Natalee Case Discussion #712 1/12 - 1/16/08

[San]

[klaasend]

AZSunny - I haven't seen it.  Is it in the segment at the end when Joran throws the wine?

[AZSunny]

AZSunny - I haven't seen it.  Is it in the segment at the end when Joran throws the wine?

It is the one that Anna posted. 

[AZSunny]

I think this is the one....

Has anyone posted Clint van Zandt on this wine throwing episode?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22635615#22635615

[Tamikosmom]

This story has been played several times today on Toronto's local news station 680 News.
http://www.680news.com/news/international/article.jsp?content=w011323A
It really getting a lot of attention. Not the kind the the VDS's were looking for I'm sure.

I agree.

There is no way that Anita can continue to openly uphold her son in regards to his anger issues.  Joran's total lack of self control ... total lack of a conscience ... was exposed for the world to see.  Maybe ... just maybe ... this event will be the catalyst which will cause this woman to face reality in regards to the path that her son is travelling ... a path that is both a danger to him and ... a danger to others.

Janet

and do not forget what fred maduro said when he was doing the tour of the k.i.a.  he was telling about jvds having a fight with another prisoner, another time having to be subdued by guards because he didn't want to go back down to the police station to be interrogated again, and fred tops it off by saying he'd known jvds all his life and always thought he'd end up where he was(in prison), because of his anger management problems.  just imagine what he'd do to a l00 lb. little girl who refused his alcohol driven sexual advances.
dennisintn

Freddy Maduro
'Countdown with Keith Olbermann'
August 25, 2005

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9085888

KOSINSKI (voice-over): … The prison director, Fred Maduro, used to work with Van Der Sloot’s father and knew Joran as a boy.

(on camera): Is it strange to see him in this environment?

FREDDY MADURO, ARUBA PRISON WARDEN: Yes, strange in a way, in another way, not, because of his temperament. When he doesn’t get his way, he gets very angry. I know that before, that already he was a very angry person.

KOSINSKI: And did you see some of his temper here in prison?

 MADURO: In beginning, yes, with the policemen. But then, afterwards, the policemen really rough him up.

KOSINSKI (voice-over): And he says Van Der Sloot got into a fight with another inmate.

MADURO: and he kicked a guy, and then he kept kicking in the same place. So, Joran’s pretty big. So, but the guy is small, but smaller than he is. But the guy (INAUDIBLE) hit him in the eye.

[AZSunny]

Start about 2:45 and go forward.

[klaasend]

I think this is the one....

Has anyone posted Clint van Zandt on this wine throwing episode?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22635615#22635615

Oh, it's in this one?  Good, I can view this one OK.  I didn't notice the Anita part, I'll watch again.

Yes, Anna posted it earlier.  It's good.

[AZSunny]

it is towards the end when she starts fanning her shirt.  weird.  It is really hiked up too.

[AZSunny]

BBL...hubby said the timer on the oven is ringing it's head off...think he wants his dinner!  LOL

[Tamikosmom]

(I brought this post over from the other thread.)

I think that Anita actions in regards to the top of her outfit implies that she may have gotten splashed with some of that wine that Joran threw at Devries.

IMO

Janet

[klaasend]

Start about 2:45 and go forward.

OMG, lololol   

OK, be back in a bit - need to go to work 

[Kat_Gram]

Snipped :Joran: Well it’s a small prison. The womensprison had their court-yard close to my cell-window and from them you hear stuff… They told me what was in the newspapers…
So, he was to be held with no communication with anyone. So he knew what was in the papers.

[dennisintn]

Snipped :Joran: Well it’s a small prison. The womensprison had their court-yard close to my cell-window and from them you hear stuff… They told me what was in the newspapers…
So, he was to be held with no communication with anyone. So he knew what was in the papers.

this is just one small demonstration that nothing is as it should be, or is touted to be on the happy island. 
dennisintn

[justinsmama]

Dvries needs to prosecute that pig for what he did.

[San]

(I brought this post over from the other thread.)

I think that Anita actions in regards to the top of her outfit implies that she may have gotten splashed with some of that wine that Joran threw at Devries.

IMO

Janet

Anita is removing the microphone.

[klaasend]

Had to do it the hard way, capturing in frames...lolol 

[San]

Dvries needs to prosecute that pig for what he did.

I agree but he won't do it.

[klaasend]

(I brought this post over from the other thread.)

I think that Anita actions in regards to the top of her outfit implies that she may have gotten splashed with some of that wine that Joran threw at Devries.

IMO

Janet

Anita is removing the microphone.

Ah good point, you're probably right.

[sirensong]

Just found this copy of the Nova interview with some translation:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PpPYqk_klXc&feature=related

[Tamikosmom]

(I brought this post over from the other thread.)

I think that Anita actions in regards to the top of her outfit implies that she may have gotten splashed with some of that wine that Joran threw at Devries.

IMO

Janet

Anita is removing the microphone.

San ... I do not know anything about microphones that are attached to the person so ... I will take your word for it.   

Janet