Natalee Case Discussion #712 1/12 - 1/16/08

[Icehawk]

Hello everyone,



Is there any word on the persistence today?

[robots]

Well Joran's lawyer issued a statement which reads:

"While Joran's conduct with the journalist is not excusable, he and his family have been under tremendous pressure over the last two and a half years".

Did someone put a gun to his head and force him to go on the show? Joran Van der Sloot put himself in the public eye and knew that Peter de Vries was going to be on this show. Did Joran think he was going to get a pass?

The family has been under tremendous pressure and felt the need to be on TV and try to BS the Dutch people into thinking that JVDS was misunderstood and mis-characterized.

I guess that opportunity to spin his character and credibility went up in flames ... what say you Anita and Paul? I bet you wish you had this one back.

yep

they PUT the quarter in the machine and they aint getting their money back

you cant TURN the hour glass upside down and get your time back SLOOTS


they got a 1/10000000000 of what Beth and family have been going thru

 

[klaasend]

Hello everyone,



Is there any word on the persistence today?

Hi IceHawk - I haven't seen any updates today.  They must either be really busy or they've lost their wifi again 

[BUCKSHOT]

5 minutes after the interview ended. Cell phone call to Joe Tacopina...

PAULUS: Joe, we need your help... We were just on a Dutch talk show and after we thought it went off-air, Joran threw wine into the interviewer's face. It was caught on tape and will be blasted to the media, via internet. We are very worried.

JOE TACPONIA: No problem, PAULUS. I will get right on it for you. Relax. Tell JORAN to hang in there. He is such a great kid; he is just going through growing pains. Give ANITA my regards. Who should I send the bill to? Gotta Run....

   Are you a partner?? 

This conversation, more than likely, took place.
Wonder how close I am to its actual content...

[BUCKSHOT]

5 minutes after the interview ended. Cell phone call to Joe Tacopina...

PAULUS: Joe, we need your help... We were just on a Dutch talk show and after we thought it went off-air, Joran threw wine into the interviewer's face. It was caught on tape and will be blasted to the media, via internet. We are very worried.

JOE TACPONIA: No problem, PAULUS. I will get right on it for you. Relax. Tell JORAN to hang in there. He is such a great kid; he is just going through growing pains. Give ANITA my regards. Who should I send the bill to?  Gotta Run....YOU OR ARUBAN GOVERNMENT ???

[Icehawk]

Hello everyone,



Is there any word on the persistence today?

Hi IceHawk - I haven't seen any updates today.  They must either be really busy or they've lost their wifi again 

Thank you Klaasend.

[BUCKSHOT]

5 minutes after the interview ended. Cell phone call to Joe Tacopina...

PAULUS: Joe, we need your help... We were just on a Dutch talk show and after we thought it went off-air, Joran threw wine into the interviewer's face. It was caught on tape and will be blasted to the media, via internet. We are very worried.

JOE TACPONIA: No problem, PAULUS. I will get right on it for you. Relax. Tell JORAN to hang in there. He is such a great kid; he is just going through growing pains. Give ANITA my regards. Who should I send the bill to?  Gotta Run...

PAULUS: Put it on my tab, JOE. ARUBA will pay for this, one way or another !!!

[klaasend]

Just posted on the front page of SM by Weasel 

weasel wrote:

Peter has exposed Joran. It’s just the beginning, my dear friend Joran. So suck it up
and stop the whining, because the abuse you will
recieve will be never ending, forever and ever,
everlasting.

Amen.

ps. Joran you look stupid with that hat on.
You look stupid with the hat off. You look
stupid.

[robots]

Just posted on the front page of SM by Weasel 

weasel wrote:

Peter has exposed Joran. It’s just the beginning, my dear friend Joran. So suck it up
and stop the whining, because the abuse you will
recieve will be never ending, forever and ever,
everlasting.

Amen.

ps. Joran you look stupid with that hat on.
You look stupid with the hat off. You look
stupid.

[dennisintn]

5 minutes after the interview ended. Cell phone call to Joe Tacopina...

PAULUS: Joe, we need your help... We were just on a Dutch talk show and after we thought it went off-air, Joran threw wine into the interviewer's face. It was caught on tape and will be blasted to the media, via internet. We are very worried.

JOE TACPONIA: No problem, PAULUS. I will get right on it for you. Relax. Tell JORAN to hang in there. He is such a great kid; he is just going through growing pains. Give ANITA my regards. Who should I send the bill to? Gotta Run....

   Are you a partner?? 

This conversation, more than likely, took place.
Wonder how close I am to its actual content...

just for curiosity's sake, i'd like to know if the sloot's lied to taco about the "rude remark" that peter supposedly made or if taco. just made it up himself.  that could probably answer a few other questions that have arisen.
dennisintn

[robots]

joran and tacoface can spin all day but here is the bottom line

the reason people LIE is because they are HIDING something


it doesnt get any simpler than that

joran lies - therefore joran is hiding something

he wasnt skerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred of anything other than getting caught

 

[robots]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

[klaasend]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

An innocent person doesn't do things like that, a sociopath does. 

[Tylergal]

I hardly ever watch Oprah. She is on when I am at work. I think if I wanted to, I could find a channel where it is rebroadcast, but I have never had the urge to do so. But I will make sure to see it on YouTube or wherever ( Ty Carpe ).
I amjust intersted in what tone , how much time, but I am more interested in what Beth has to say frankly, not Oprah.   

What I like most about Wednesday is that Beth will be able to tell Natalee's story to over 23 million people. Like Oprah or not, trust her or not, Beth has one hell of an audience to work with and it WILL affect Aruba and it just may save another family from the same ordeal.

I think Beth is smarter than Oprah or Greta and has the savvy to have kept this going in spite of all odds against her.  Anyone who has followed this case, even peripherally, knows this woman, Beth, is still able to impress all the speakers and people she meets with a lot of grace, teancity and courage.  She would be my candidate for "Woman of the Year."  Never has a woman who came from the suburbs, a teacher in a somewhat secluded community, risen to the heights with a missing-child case as Beth, and since there are many missing children, one has to only surmise that she has the smarts and grace of God with her in each appearance.  Otherwise, she would have cracked under all the inside and outside pressure.  It is of pure love for Natalee and grace given to her by God that she has been able to keep going.  No accounting for her superhuman spirit otherwise.

[robots]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

An innocent person doesn't do things like that, a sociopath does. 

you just NAILED it 

[robots]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

An innocent person doesn't do things like that, a sociopath does. 

joran has convinced himself that whatever he did to Natalee ..........it is in the past and we should just move along


crazy aint he 

[texasmom]

joran and tacoface can spin all day but here is the bottom line

the reason people LIE is because they are HIDING something


it doesnt get any simpler than that

joran lies - therefore joran is hiding something

he wasnt skerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred of anything other than getting caught

 

 

[klaasend]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

An innocent person doesn't do things like that, a sociopath does. 

joran has convinced himself that whatever he did to Natalee ..........it is in the past and we should just move along


crazy aint he 

He has convinced himself that it was Natalee's fault.  It never would have happened if she hadn't said no.

[Bearlyhere]

jokes are suppoed to be funny

when joran says he photo chopped a picture of him and Natalee
he said it was a joke

i dont see anything even remotely funny

i cant even guess

he is a joke and so is his father

An innocent person doesn't do things like that, a sociopath does. 

By JINGO, I think you're right Klaas.   

[robots]

joran and tacoface can spin all day but here is the bottom line

the reason people LIE is because they are HIDING something


it doesnt get any simpler than that

joran lies - therefore joran is hiding something

he wasnt skerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred of anything other than getting caught