Natalee Case Discussion #713 1/16 - 1/20/08

[JusticeforNatalee]

I would like to add to *******'s remark:

<b><green>New York and New England monkeys, we are counting on you!
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The time you give--you will be rewarded tenfold by the positive experience of
being at these events and talking to people about Natalee.

Please try to make it--you will be so glad that you did!
Everyone who has attended can vouch for the strong sense of satisfaction
that comes from participating.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Good to see you, Angie! If you're turning in, sleep well!

   Great to see you as wel CBB and others and new folks. I do try an keep caught up reading, !  I just have some rotten isomnia lately. Sucks ! 

[Observer]

http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed


Aruba
US still drives business to Aruba after Holloway case closed
By Hazel Heyer | Jan 16, 2008
Nassau, Bahamas (eTN) -

Aruba’s recent tourism numbers are expected to look positive compared to previous years. Travel & Tourism in Aruba was expected to rake in US$2354.9 million in economic activity as of 2007 end. Aruba's Travel & Tourism Economy (direct and indirect impact) is expected to account for 70.1 percent of GDP and for 52000 jobs (82.4 percent of total employment), according to the World Travel & Tourism Council. Despite a highly-sensationalized case involving tourist Natalee Holloway, an Alabaman teenager who traveled to the island but mysteriously disappeared two years ago, Aruba's Travel & Tourism is expected to report 2.1 percent growth in 2007 and 3.3 percent per annum, in real terms, between 2008 and 2017.

With good news about Aruba reported by the tourism authorities, last December however, the media revisited an old, but not long- forgotten story. Prosecutors closed the case on Holloway’s disappearance in May 2005 on the Dutch Caribbean island. Authorities said they do not have evidence to charge suspects Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers, Satish and Deepak, who were last seen with Holloway. They have been notified by the public prosecutor that they will not be charged. The press was abuzz with the latest developments.

eTN caught up with Aruba’s minister of tourism and transportation, Edison Briesen, who said the island is back in business despite the revival of the Holloway incident, which has become fodder for the media. In an exclusive interview at the Caribbean Hotel Association Marketplace held January 13-15 on Paradise Island, Bahamas, Briesen confirmed the US remains strong as its number one market.

eTN: How is the Aruban tourism industry reacting to the developments on the Holloway case being over?

Minister Briesen: We were strongly hit by this incident. Unfortunately last year, they’ve closed the case. But in the Dutch justice system, the case is not close. It will remain a silent, open case should any lead come in. We have spent a lot of money bringing in experts from day one to the last day of December 2007, including Dutch investigation experts. We heard the mother and the Holloway family will seek publicity again in the US, which we’ll have to counter.[/u]

From 2005 to early 2006, Aruba was badly hit by the incident due to the negative publicity. In October 2006, Aruba tourism recovered. I think we’ve turned the corner.

eTN: With an image of being a peaceful island on the Caribbean, why do you think this incident has been lingering and has continued to impact the tourism industry of Aruba?

Briesen: I don’t know about the family problems they have which seem to be the reason behind this case. In the Caribbean, this is the first time an island has been pounded this long by a single event. It’s been over a year and a half now and the publicity has not ended. I don’t know what other reasons there exist. We’ve opened our doors to help the family solve their issue. We’ve been cooperative and have spent a lot of government money on the investigation.

eTN: Could this have been a bad example of security loophole?

Briesen: We’ve had the FBI, the Aruban special task force, F16’s and special recovery vessels searching the island. Nothing turned up. It’s really a strange mystery. The island is so small, social ties are strong. Everybody knows everybody in Aruba. For us, this has been a mystery as well. Unfortunately, there is no closure just yet.

eTN: Has this been a big challenge to tourism?

Briesen: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up our time and resources. Everybody got involved in this case. People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department to help solve the disappearance. This incident has kept us ‘hostage’ for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an ad campaign worth $5 M in the US to counter the negative broadcast. On the other side of the coin, more people now know about Aruba. But I would not want Aruba to be known in the same way Iraq is known. One reason why we think it has been a hard blow to us.We are the safest island in the  entire western hemisphere. Things like this don’t happen in Aruba.

eTN: Do you want closure for the family?

Briesen: Of course, we went out of our way to help them. We’ve been very cooperative.

eTN: What message do you have for the US travelers?

Briesen: What happened in Aruba has given us and the Caribbean a hard lesson to learn, which has become for us and everybody a model for crisis management on the islands. This is one case which we, as a member of the Caribbean Tourism Organization, have learned from and employed as a crisis model. We’ve received support from the CTO and the CHA through the years, with sustaining the US market, our loyal clients for over 30 years. Three of four visitors to Aruba are Americans. This is a case that boggles us. But we’d like to forget and move on.We got tremendous support from the US market. Forty-two percent of our rooms are timeshare, booked primarily by Americans. They’ve They’ve helped us turn the corner so Aruba can move on

[klaasend]

Shower time, be back in a bit 

Ahhhhh, much better

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Goodnight ! 
 Cute moneky emoticons  LOL   
Work beckons me in the early AM...   

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Shower time, be back in a bit 

Ahhhhh, much better

 OMG  ROFLMAO  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Night Klaas.. HUGS ! 

[klaasend]

Nite Angie

[JusticeforNatalee]

"But we’d like to forget and move on."

Guess again.

[Anna]

Posted by Lazlo at RU regarding Rudy Croes press conference about Kelly and Castillo:

Lazlo wrote:

Rudy Croes jumped in to stop the press from this insanity

Unlike claimed before Rudy Croes did not say the "evidence" the Young&Castillo couple had against the family was valid, he called the media soon as he learned these two ppl telling these stories, claiming they had already been telling their stories to the OM last June.

He urged anyone in the Press to be extremely carefull, because what these ppl (Young&Castillo) were saying publicly, we cannot afford that, it may result in a devastating reaction from the American Press, so he pleaded to all involved in the Press please be extremely carefull and not let these ppl throw around stories as they did.

That is what Rudy Croes said. (as far as I can translate it)

What's going on with the august Minister of Justice Rudy Croes?  Has he validated this information and if so, then why is he back-pedaling and trying to suddenly distance himself from this new smear campaign?

He knew from the start the probability of a lawsuit for this outrageous lying he has supported so I wonder why he got scared at the last minute? 

[Anna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgaAZqnkJCA

I think Sally is the only real psychic involved in this case.  She's got his number.  He was the one,  he was the only one who killed Natalee, he was there by himself and his parents need to do something before this anger is again unleashed, and it could be against one of them or worse, their other children.

 

I think she has a good grasp on the events as they happened.  KISS theory works for me, is the only one that does, come to think of it.

Joran is looking more like a bifron all the time, too.  At least what I think out would look like. 

[Anna]

There is a vast difference in someone asking Beth what she thinks happened to her daughter and her replying and these fake psychics.  They are making these wild accusations as facts and claim to be able to prove them with their fake documents and fake statements they claim given to them by people who completely deny saying any such thing.

I don't see the importance of the time Beth arrived in Aruba nor of her saying she just wanted her daughter back to these fruitcakes.  Their trying to make something out of nothing and diminish the impact her appearance on Oprah is going to have.  I hope Beth's book also exeriences a surge in sales from that program so people will learn even more about what happened.

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[Anna]

For any who missed it earlier, here is the link to Adam Housley's blog covering Chavez involvement with the drug cartels of South America and how he is transporting drugs northward and has become the superhighway for almost all drugs heading north.  That would be the same Chavez located just 16 miles off the Aruban coast so can there be any doubt as to whose free port much of this goes to?  He is even using oil barges and freighters, airlines, boats and any method at all to move the drugs northward to the U.S. and European markets.  That's a lot of money to be laundered, too.

Just something to keep in the back of ones mind with regard to the behavior of the officials in Aruba.

http://housley.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/17/hugo-and-the-cartels/#more-441

[Bearlyhere]

Posted by Lazlo at RU regarding Rudy Croes press conference about Kelly and Castillo:

Lazlo wrote:

Rudy Croes jumped in to stop the press from this insanity

Unlike claimed before Rudy Croes did not say the "evidence" the Young&Castillo couple had against the family was valid, he called the media soon as he learned these two ppl telling these stories, claiming they had already been telling their stories to the OM last June.

He urged anyone in the Press to be extremely carefull, because what these ppl (Young&Castillo) were saying publicly, we cannot afford that, it may result in a devastating reaction from the American Press, so he pleaded to all involved in the Press please be extremely carefull and not let these ppl throw around stories as they did.

That is what Rudy Croes said. (as far as I can translate it)

What's going on with the august Minister of Justice Rudy Croes?  Has he validated this information and if so, then why is he back-pedaling and trying to suddenly distance himself from this new smear campaign?

He knew from the start the probability of a lawsuit for this outrageous lying he has supported so I wonder why he got scared at the last minute? 

Hi Anna:

Another one of those things that goes hmmmmmmmmm in the night.  Maybe he also has an evil twin.

 

[texasmom]

Goodnight everyone.  TGIF

[Bearlyhere]

Goodnight everyone.  TGIF

Nite TM, was it something I said?

 

[Anna]

Bearly,
Well, I understand my twin has been known to claim that I'm really the Evil One but I know that can't be right!  LOL!  Horrible to think there could be two Rudy Croes so maybe he just has a split personality and doesn't even remember that not 24 hours ago he was validating the information these two kooks are trying to sell.

I am shocked to see in printed in the newspapers, however.  I didn't think they would go that far with it for some reason. Maybe because it is unsubstantiated lies for one thing.   Good to get it all on record, I suppose.  Will make suing the pants off those two even easier.  Rudy and/or the Aruban Government as well. 

This was in the works before the Joran show so maybe it was to counter Oprah?  I don't think many in MSM US press will pick up on this as it is too over the top for them to carry.  At least I hope it is.

Just sickening to see it is actually in print now, however.  That's a far cry from blog rumors, IMO.

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[Bearlyhere]

Anna, I also like your names.  Although I like FrozenBrokenHair, I also like HairdresserRunsWithScissors.

 

[texasmom]

Goodnight everyone.  TGIF

Nite TM, was it something I said?

 

No way, bearlyhere!  Wish I could stay here all night and still function at work but I'm getting too old for that I guess.  So off to monkey bunkey I must go!  Keep the cage rockin', I'll catch up tomorrow.

[Bearlyhere]

Bearly,
Well, I understand my twin has been known to claim that I'm really the Evil One but I know that can't be right!  LOL!  Horrible to think there could be two Rudy Croes so maybe he just has a split personality and doesn't even remember that not 24 hours ago he was validating the information these two kooks are trying to sell.

I am shocked to see in printed in the newspapers, however.  I didn't think they would go that far with it for some reason. Maybe because it is unsubstantiated lies for one thing.   Good to get it all on record, I suppose.  Will make suing the pants off those two even easier.  Rudy and/or the Aruban Government as well. 

This was in the works before the Joran show so maybe it was to counter Oprah?  I don't think many in MSM US press will pick up on this as it is too over the top for them to carry.  At least I hope it is.

Just sickening to see it is actually in print now, however.  That's a far cry from blog rumors, IMO.

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I was thinking the same thing myself.  How can you make a story like that up with absolutely nothing to go on? 

There goes the rest of their dollars. 

[Anna]

Anna, I also like your names.  Although I like FrozenBrokenHair, I also like HairdresserRunsWithScissors.

 

Even BlindHairdresserRunsWithScirrors might apply to that Kelly person's coif.  She is a real mess.  Note they are also claiming great poverty I suppose as a way to discourage suits for what they say.  But I'd have to say Jug Twitty would have a very good one and there is nothing to prevent a judgment against any future earnings these two might have from their house smudging activities.

Hard to believe a Minister of Justice of any country would be validating the claims of house smudgers.  Maybe they smudged Rudy's domicile for free or something.

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