Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 - 1/25/08

[texasmom]

 

I remember a while back that someone was looking for a picture of the furniture truck at the VDS home.  Sorry if this is old info but I found this while looking for something else.

[klaasend]

I don't care for that website but I think it's funny he's using everyone elses pics.  That particular one is Carpes.  I'm also sure we have the furniture truck in the Important Case Document threads.

I fixed it so the picture would show 

[texasmom]

I don't care for that website but I think it's funny he's using everyone elses pics.  That particular one is Carpes.  I'm also sure we have the furniture truck in the Important Case Document threads.

I fixed it so the picture would show 

Thanks Klaas!  I too was hesitant to post the link, but I saw that it was Carpe's pic so I hoped that the link to the picture only was o.k.  I tried but couldn't get it to where I could post the pic only.  You're the best!

[klaasend]

When you post a link that is a photo (.jpg, .gif, etc) if after you paste it in your message, you HIGHLIGHT the link then click on this icon that is above the smilies, it will add the [img] tags and the photo will show.  Try it next time!

[klaasend]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

[sirensong]

Just a few days ago I posted that Guido may have left to Canada from Aruba and then to Holland. According to a Aruban and Dutch newspaper in 2006 anyway..I am still very curious about why he would go to Canada. We have seen a couple of things that are very curious from Canada like the Cartoon of Natalee-3 Days until murdered Cartoon with the shallow grave,about a week after NH dissapeared.

You may see me research Lorenzo and Mr.Pink..etc but thats because I am looking into everyone and everything that should be looked into. Guido would be very high on my list after the sloots to research,but there is nothing out there on this kid. Not only do I think Guido was with JK2 that night but I beleave he was there when something bad happened. I still believe the rumors that he offered a alibi to Joran in early June 2005 before he fled. They had to have a reason to add Heavy Battery to the suspicions when he was arrested and I still believe that both him and Joran tried to restrain Natalee while she fought the best she could to get away. We have seen both reports from his school and co workers at the casino that he had long scratches and a bruise/injuries on his face the days after Natalee dissapeared. Like most of you I think it was Joran in a raging temper and high on Xtasy that ended Natalee's life.
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I noticed the closing remarks on this video.."One report out of Aruba is Guido is considered a alibi witness for Joran"...

May 21, 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iUKXXFreaY
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The arrested boy is hot Guido Wever, he has been detained and interrogated in the Netherlands. He is Aruba moved to Canada 14 days after Natalee disappeared. He was a croupier at the Holliday Inn and Casino has previously interrogated by the Aruban police. According to his lawyer Spong, the boy suspected of "complicity in murder, grievous bodily injury and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway.

      The boy lived in Aruba and went to the Mon Plaisir School. The boy is also seen in the company of Natalee. He came to school with a lot of scratches on his body. The boy was almost done with school and would continue studying in the Netherlands. He asked his parents if he was allowed to Canada earlier. He was on two weeks after finished school when he heard of his possible arrest and then fled to the Netherlands.

      The boy, according to witness testimony on May 30, 2005 have been at school with scratches and injuries on his face. He would also be part of the group who were arrested earlier.

      He was previously interrogated as a witness, 3x by the Aruban police and twice by the Dutch police.

      Gerard Spong, the boy's lawyer, told the NOS news that the suspect is a friend of Joran van der Sloot - those are certain that he Natalee was last seen. Van der Sloot says he left Holloway alone on the beach after her gezoend to have.

      (Source: Awemainta & arubadirtypolice)
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The Algemeen Dagblad will publish this morning:

      Quote:
      The Utrecht police last week a former croupier arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and murder of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. Gerard Spong, lawyer of the suspect, a span today interim measures to prevent extradition to Aruba.

      The suspect, Guido W., is a Dutchman who lived in Aruba at the time of the loss of Holloway. W. Is a tennismaatje of Joran van der Sloot and worked three months as a trainee croupier at the casino in the hotel where Holloway stayed. On May 30, when Holloway was missing only a few hours, was W. Also work. "He looked strange,''recalls a member of the Aruban casino itself.,, He came within worrisome.''

      W. Worked a few days in the casino, but was previously on a dangepland. He departed in June to Canada to study. After Holloway's disappearance is W. Several times in Aruba and the Netherlands, heard as a witness.

      Holloway came during her vacation on Aruba often in the casino. Even on the last evening that she was seen alive, she was there. They with when Van der Sloot, who still is suspected of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. But he is due to a lack of evidence on free feet. The arrest of Guido W. Took place at the request of the Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) in Aruba. The suspect is stuck in Utrecht.
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http://forum.fok.nl/topic/837319/6/50 (translated)

I didn't know he had been seen in the company of Natalee

[MumInOhio]

What did Guido's parents do for a living? Do we know?

Lala's....I spent hours trying to track this down a little while ago. That is when I found the other person with the scratches and fled to The Netherlands 2 days after Natalee disappeared and also a Guido Gottenbos....LOL

All I kept finding on Guido's parents was the statement by the parents!!!!

[MumInOhio]

Seeing Guido is being discussed again, this is what I found in the last LCD before we went to the new format and had posted tn the Shango and Simian thread.....

Bringing this discussion from August forward as Jossy is quoted as saying that it was not Guido who had the scratches.    dialogue from final LCD thread on August 11, 2007, 07:07:02 PM


How did Guido get into this picture, charged as suspected as being accomplice to among other things heavy battery, "Grievous Bodily Harm". What time did Guido leave work that late night?

Anybody think that Guido was questioned in the first week of June 05 because of scratch/other witnesses, unrelated to Joran...initially?

I've a question. Did Jossy say or write that the scratches were on GvC not Guido?

He was detained last Wednesday. He was considered a witness in June, 2005. Since February of this year, he is now a suspect. Prosecutor in Aruba want him very quickly. Main evidence against him is witness made statements against him. He claims that he is innocent and never met Natalee last June.

Jossy says he will have to come back to Aruba and the case will go forward in court. Guido Wever is his name. He did not have scratches or bruises on him last June. He was interrogated last June. Good friend of Joran. Played Tennis with him and gambles with Joran. Jossy believes Guido is in bigger trouble than GVC ever was. GVC never knew Joran.

Also, according to Jossy Mansur of Diario in Aruba Guido Weaver is not the individual that was arrested the other day with the scratches on his face. Guido Weaver is another detained individual. The identity of the individual who was arrested with the scratches has yet to be identified.

[MumInOhio]

Lala's...I found these posts from *******....

on: January 02, 2008, 07:48:19 PM 
Quote from: ******* on January 02, 2008, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: ******* on January 02, 2008, 05:40:27 PM
Lorenzo who was questioned but released because of an alibi provided by Babylonians who couldn’t be disbelieved due to the positions their parents hold in government



We know Guido's dad is Robert Wever a politician and the chairman of the Aliansa / MSA. No idea if Guido is related to Booshi Wever or the other high ranking Wevers. But I have long been suspicious that PVDS was not the only father who influenced this case.

 

[blah]

I remember a while back that someone was looking for a picture of the furniture truck at the VDS home.  Sorry if this is old info but I found this while looking for something else.

is it just me or does the big guy next to the truck in this pic look just like the guy from the painted rocks video????

[robots]

I remember a while back that someone was looking for a picture of the furniture truck at the VDS home.  Sorry if this is old info but I found this while looking for something else.

is it just me or does the big guy next to the truck in this pic look just like the guy from the painted rocks video????

yes he does

BINGO

[MumInOhio]

I thought I just read 'somewhere' that Jossy confirmed that the guy from the rocks was with ALE, some sort of forensic guy....LOL after Archer that could be anything!

[Nut44x4]

PER MF at RU

MF Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:42 am   
The Persistence might have foud "something"

The prosecutor's Office has just been informed recently that the Persistence crew might have found something and currently forensic testings are under way.

If it has to do with the Natalee Holloway case or any way related or crucial to the investigation, has yet to be determined. 

[Nut44x4]

IF TRUE ...Let's hope the forensics are performed by an 'independant' and not by anyone on Aruba. 

[Magnolia]

PER MF at RU

MF Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:42 am   
The Persistence might have foud "something"

The prosecutor's Office has just been informed recently that the Persistence crew might have found something and currently forensic testings are under way.

If it has to do with the Natalee Holloway case or any way related or crucial to the investigation, has yet to be determined. 

I wonder who is doing the forensic testing?

[crazybabyborg]

PER MF at RU

MF Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:42 am   
The Persistence might have foud "something"

The prosecutor's Office has just been informed recently that the Persistence crew might have found something and currently forensic testings are under way.

If it has to do with the Natalee Holloway case or any way related or crucial to the investigation, has yet to be determined. 

  Is this reliable??

[MumInOhio]

PER MF at RU

MF Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:42 am   
The Persistence might have foud "something"

The prosecutor's Office has just been informed recently that the Persistence crew might have found something and currently forensic testings are under way.

If it has to do with the Natalee Holloway case or any way related or crucial to the investigation, has yet to be determined. 

Thanks Nut for bringing this over!

[crazybabyborg]

I need coffee to clear the cobwebs. Join me, Monkeys!

OK. Let's just say there is something to this.
"Forensic testing is underway"
Who would be doing it? Please tell me the crew would be testing, because I don't trust anyone else!

[crazybabyborg]

  Magnolia, great minds think alike! I wish Kyle would check in!

[Magnolia]

MF has a way of telling half truths.
So best we take it with a grain of salt.
I hope Persistence has found something.
If so maybe Klye will confirm shortly.