Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 - 1/25/08

[sharon]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Btw, as some have mentioned de Vries indeed is on the island and his activities there are case related.

Just wanted to confirm this.

thanks Klaas and Lazlo....I  knew one had to be with PdeV ....I just can't see PdeV letting it go.....as I said earlier...he knows jvs is guilty......and he is going to do everything he can to get evidence to get the assbite prosecuted!!  I think I am going to send him a love letter

If he were to get the evidence to prosecute -- I would too 

[klaasend]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 
Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

And if she tell you more would you believe her?   

[Tamikosmom]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 
Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Oh yes!  Let's hear about that!  How does the RenHo know this?!

isn't she a member of ahata and ata?  they had copies of all the a.l.e. and f.b.i. reports according to aruba steve.  of course the victim's family is entitled to absolutely nothing. 
dennisintn

Aruban Tourism and the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway have been one since the getgo.  I suspect that it has never been about justice for a missing 18 year old American citizen.  I contend that it has always been about protecting the tourist dollar ... the tourist dollar which funds Aruba's illegal underground economy.

Janet

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http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed

US still drives business to Aruba after Holloway case closed
By Hazel Heyer | Jan 16, 2008

eTN: Has this been a big challenge to tourism?

Briesen: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up our time and resources. Everybody got involved in this case. People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department to help solve the disappearance.


Steve Cohen
ARUBA TRUTH
December 7, 2005

A coalition of groups announced Friday the appointment of Steve Cohen to act as spokesperson to North American media, in regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance case.

AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June. He has a full knowledge of the case and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design Group that has served in an advisory capacity to both ATA and AHATA.

The goal of this action is to coordinate the responses of the private and public sectors to North American media.


Steve Cohen
DR. PHIL SHOW
January 29, 2005

Steve Cohen, special advisor to Aruba, came on the show hoping for a chance to talk to Beth about where the investigation stands today. Dr. Phil turns to Steve. "So, you're a paid consultant?" he asks.

"That's correct," Steve replies.

"And, who pays you?" Dr. Phil probes.

"I'm actually paid by the tourism industry, which is the Aruban Tourism Authority, and also a group called AHACA, which is an association of hotel owners on the island."

[Magnolia]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

I may not be remembering correctly.....but I thought we found that DEA
agent, Eric Williams was Renho's neighbor.

[Hotshot]

Just found this, don't know if its true or not but I thought I would share.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannah
The letter from Vinda de Sousa in the NY case filing says the following about Williams:

The parents departed inmediately to the Holiday Inn Hotel. They were awaited there by mr. Paul Lilly, one of the chaperones of the travelgroup of Nathalee and by mr. Eric Williams, and American ex-DEA agent and a friend of the family.




As I recall, at some point in July 2005, The Jugster said he wasn't sure how Williams had gotten involved, which doesn't, to me, suggest a "family friendship". Oh, well. I guess they sorted this out by the time the lawsuit was filed.

Williams was an undercover agent in Florida. His cover was blown when he had to testify in court about some of his cases. He was thereafter a spokespeson for the DEA. That much I knowe is true, because I researched it myself.

Glenda, that fount of credibility, says that Williams retired to Aruba and purchased a condo or house from her family or father.
http://www.rjames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=39141

[Anna]

He bought his house from Renho?

[wreck]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

I may not be remembering correctly.....but I thought we found that DEA
agent, Eric Williams was Renho's neighbor.

I thought it was said that Renho either sold to or bought her house from an Eric Williams.

[Anna]

I meant I remembered it being posted that he bought his house from Renfro.

Also that he was retired which means he is a FORMER DEA agent.  Or spokesperson but not still active as an operative.

But recently we had the Minister of Tourism Briesen saying that his dept loaned employees to ALE which means infiltrate ALE and gain access to any and all information for this misinformation campaign they launched immediately, a campaign to discredit the victim and her family just as they had done with Max DeVries.

Worked before so maybe would work again.  This time they met with much more resistence.  It's not working out as they thought that it would.

Add to that the tribe mentality that exists on that island.  Us against the World and we can do anything we want because it's our island, blah blah blah.

Well, not if you solicit tourism.

They can't have it both ways.

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[Magnolia]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

I may not be remembering correctly.....but I thought we found that DEA
agent, Eric Williams was Renho's neighbor.

I thought it was said that Renho either sold to or bought her house from an Eric Williams.

I knew it was something about a house.

[Tylergal]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 
Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

And if she tell you more would you believe her?   

You know there is always a little bit of truth in each statement, so we can get our scales of justice out and weigh it. 

[Tylergal]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

I may not be remembering correctly.....but I thought we found that DEA
agent, Eric Williams was Renho's neighbor.

That's what I was thinking, maybe bought a property from her or something.

[ldstlou]

so where is the statement and how does renho know about it?
 

resigned wrote:
I'm still not clear...

Did DEA Williams or any other DEA agent give a statement to ALE for the Holloway Case regarding the events that took place late night/early morning May 30/31 2005?
 Glenda Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:46 pm
Yes he did. 

Wonder if we can get Glenda to tell us more, you think?

I may not be remembering correctly.....but I thought we found that DEA
agent, Eric Williams was Renho's neighbor.

That's what I was thinking, maybe bought a property from her or something.

to me it just says the "fix" was in early on. If the "dea agent" had close ties to renho or others, he certainly wasn't there to assist the family, more likely to derail them. And if he was outed and retired, why not help the Family by giving his statement? Why dissappear? And now supposedly renho knows of a statement he gave that the family "wishes he hadn't"? Here we go...another one currently on the ahta payroll...imho

[klaasend]

Sorry for the size of the print but it was the only way I could capture the entire thing.  Lazlo just posted this.  It seems Alberto G was also this key witness.  Wonder how much they paid Alberto G to be they key witness and change his witness statements?:

[ldstlou]

Sorry for the size of the print but it was the only way I could capture the entire thing.  Lazlo just posted this.  It seems Alberto G was also this key witness.  Wonder how much they paid Alberto G to be they key witness and change his witness statements?:

I was just reading that. the discredited their own witness...

[Anna]

I don't understand.  Alberto G proved to ALE how Natalee was taken off the island 1.5 years ago and yet they are still arresting J2K and calling them the ONLY suspects or ones who could possibly be involved?

Doesn't sound much as though ALE was convinced very much at all.

So Renfro and Alberto G are the sources for Renee Gielen plus the psycho psychics?

[Anna]

Another thing I am weary of hearing is how Beth was "comped" for everything.  Jug said he had the stack of credit card bills and could prove he paid for just about everything.  After having to move from HI for security reasons to the Wyndham, I think they received something like 20% discount on the room. 

But in any event, how do U.S. owned, operated and financed companies providing a discount equal being comped by Aruba?

Even Bill O'Reiley took Ruben Trappenburg to task over how cheap Aruba had been, not even providing a car for them to use. 

Guess there were no U.S. companies with cars to do that and the Arubans sure weren't going to do squat.

I hope every U.S. company pulls their investment money out of that place.  We need to rebuilt tourism along our own Gulf Coast and forget about places that treat their tourists the way this family and that of Max Devries and Bud Larson were treated.  They need us far, far more than we need them.  There are plenty of other piles of sand in the world, there is absolutely nothing special about Aruba at all that I ever saw.

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[klaasend]

I don't understand.  Alberto G proved to ALE how Natalee was taken off the island 1.5 years ago and yet they are still arresting J2K and calling them the ONLY suspects or ones who could possibly be involved?

Doesn't sound much as though ALE was convinced very much at all.

So Renfro and Alberto G are the sources for Renee Gielen plus the psycho psychics?

I would say Renfro and others are the sources and Alberto is being paid to "go along".

[robots]

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[Anna]

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What happened to all the things ANITA gave to her friends to hide for her that Mos mentioned soon after he took over this investigation?

I wonder if any follow up was ever done on all that and just what was it she hid this way?

Just wondering. . . . .


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[ldstlou]

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ARUBA SUCKS

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on that note...I bid you all a good night!! Sweet dreams all!!!