Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 - 1/25/08

[Magnolia]

 

[Tamikosmom]

What I'm looking for is very specific. Did Eric Williams suggest calling CC because of a discussion of phone messages started by Natalee's parents? Or did he just think to check phone records for the whole island that night randomly? This does make a difference in determining possible friend or foe.

I speculate that the following dialogue between Greta Van Susteren and Charles Croes implies that ... Charles Croes was called by Eric Williams regarding one specific issue.

Beth' words in LOVING NATALEE convinces me that Eric Williams was that "major friend" who Charles Croes is referring to.

Janet


Charles Croes
On the Record w/ Greta
June 30, 2005

CHARLES CROES, TALKED TO DUTCH SUSPECT: A major friend of mine called me up. He was working with Natalee's mom to help them find Natalee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why would he call you? What is your occupation that would be a reason he would call you?

C. CROES: Well, I have a sail (cell) rental company. And there was apparently a phone call made. And he was calling me betting or hoping that the phone call was made from one of our phones, and so that's why he called me.

VAN SUSTEREN: About what time did he call you?

C. CROES: He called me at 11:30.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say to you?

C. CROES: He told me that he needed my help. And I asked him what it was about. And he told me that it had to do something with a cell phone. And I didn't relate it to anything but work at that point.

<snipped>

C. CROES: ... And then he said, "There is a possibility that a phone call was made using one of our phones." And I said, "OK." And he said, "It's very, very important."  I said, "Fine," and I asked him to go into further details, and he did. And then I made arrangements to go see him.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161233,00.html


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
 
Page 42
Making their way inside the bar the men dodge a couple of fistfights and dope-smoking patrons to try to find someone with information.  They don't learn anything, so we all load up again and drive to a nearby gas station, where the DEA agent wants to introduce us to someone associated with the island cell-phone company to help us get phones and set up communications among our group.

[klaasend]

In yesterdays Solo Di Pueblo:

[2NJSons_Mom]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

[Blue Moon]

Posted by Glenda at RU.  I think this is saying Hans Mos does not consider Renfro a suspect in the case:

Glenda wrote:

Hans Mos confirms Julia is not Interesting!


I would totally agree on that statement.

[Tamikosmom]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

If anybody is making anybody dizzy ... it is probably me.  Story of my life.   

I hope all the Monkeys are having a good day.  Another georgous crisp day in my neck of the woods.  The temperature is hovering around freezing but ... not a cloud in the sky.  The sun is so uplifting.  All is right with my world.   

Janet

[Magnolia]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

[Tamikosmom]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

Magnolia ... you remember correctly.  I am so frustrated that I never saved that entire interview.  That dialogue between Greta and Charles Croes occurred long before the trolls referred to me as roboposter and ... Tamikosbum.
   

At that time ... I trusted that somehow ... in spite of obvious conflicts of interest ... that media attention dictated that it would be just a matter of time until justice would prevail for Natalee Holloway.  I was so wrong.
   

Janet

[Magnolia]

In yesterdays Solo Di Pueblo:

Goofy looking people!

[Buckeye]

Have you been reading the Shango thread??   

[SunnyinTX]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

Sorry to hit and run...Monday I should have some information to share  on Eric Williams,  Charles Croes and the Hottie poster....Good Weekend to all!

[Tamikosmom]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

Sorry to hit and run...Monday I should have some information to share  on Eric Williams,  Charles Croes and the Hottie poster....Good Weekend to all!

COME BACK!!!!

[Buckeye]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

I remember his listening 4-5 times but don't remember where (?gas station?).

[SunnyinTX]

HOOTIE psoter...not Hottie! Sorry!!

[Magnolia]

Have you been reading the Shango thread??   

I have and I had to leave.....I got really confused there.

[Tamikosmom]

HOOTIE psoter...not Hottie! Sorry!!

If Beth says it ... it must be so.

Janet

+++++++++

Transcript: Debbie/BFN

The Birmingham Meeting
BFN
October 28, 2006

Questions and Answers

20. The "Call me Hootie" poster... what is the explanation of that?

BETH:  This poster is the first that was distributed in Aruba. The Kidnapped posters that were made up to be put up were not allowed to be used. The Call me Hootie poster idea came from Julia Renfro.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

I remember his listening 4-5 times but don't remember where (?gas station?).

FWIW, I, too, remember him saying this....and I believe it was at the gas station.

[Magnolia]

HOOTIE psoter...not Hottie! Sorry!!

If Beth says it ... it must be so.

Janet

+++++++++

Transcript: Debbie/BFN

The Birmingham Meeting
BFN
October 28, 2006

Questions and Answers

20. The "Call me Hootie" poster... what is the explanation of that?

BETH:  This poster is the first that was distributed in Aruba. The Kidnapped posters that were made up to be put up were not allowed to be used. The Call me Hootie poster idea came from Julia Renfro.

And have Julia's cell number on them.  Beth did not have an Aruban number to put
on the posters when she left Birmingham.  Could not have brought them with her.

[ldstlou]

Janet,

I've read your information more than once and yes, you speculate clearly why Williams can be the 'major' friend...(I used 'important' earlier = WRONG)....I just got caught up in some of the other posts and had a senior moment.   

Hope Magnolia doesn't get too dizzy rolling her eyes....I'll be still for a bit. 

Magnolia stays dizzy!
I swear I remember Charles Croes saying that he listened to the message on the
cell phone four or five times at the gas station.

Sorry to hit and run...Monday I should have some information to share  on Eric Williams,  Charles Croes and the Hottie poster....Good Weekend to all!

COME BACK!!!!

We sent a list of questions to Jug about CC, DEA agent and the poster and whose telephone number was on it. He said he will work on them over the weekend for us. Should have some firm info on Monday.

[dennisintn]

Posted by Glenda at RU.  I think this is saying Hans Mos does not consider Renfro a suspect in the case:

Glenda wrote:

Hans Mos confirms Julia is not Interesting!


I would totally agree on that statement.

roflmfao, and most people would agree with you that we agree on that.
dennisintn