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« Reply #80 on: January 21, 2008, 12:11:58 AM »

  Re: Ocean Search - Aruba - December 2007
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Natalee loved the Wizard of Oz, and I often think of her as "Over The Rainbow". God's promise is broadcast across the heavens everytime that beautiful arched prism makes an appearance. He made the promise to Noah, as the first covenant between God and man. In Revelation 4, we are given a picture of God's throne, and the Bible teaches us that there is a rainbow around His throne. That rainbow is representative of all God's covenants with man and signifies the intimate relationship He has with us. He knows our desires and has chosen to care about each of us as His own child. The rainbow that could be seen by the persistence holds tremendous encouragement and promise for their sacrifice! They are not alone, and they are exhibiting His example of sacrificial love spent for others. Lord, please let them bring Natalee home and please let them feel your presence and guidance! Thank you for the crew and letting us learn of your nature through them!
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« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2008, 12:14:10 AM »

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All Prayers Will Be Answered in Time!


« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2008, 12:24:50 AM »

Amen CBB! Beautiful Thoughts for the Persistence!
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« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2008, 12:28:15 AM »

We're approaching a 200ft "incline" which is essentially a submarine cliff...trying not pull a Wyllie E. Coyote with the towfish.  You'de have to see what I'm seeing to really appreciate it.  If this topography were above land, it would be very scenic.   
Yes, interesting. Be patient, stay the course, and keep praying.  Let's not let our emotions or adjendas interfere with what we know to be true.
I was lurking and reading and just wanted to thank Kyle for keeping us updated and sharing his thoughts and reflections on the search.  We are praying for you and the rest of the crew, each and every day.  You guys are awesome!  We appreciate all your efforts and giving of your time, ship and equipment to this endeavor.  Thanks!
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« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2008, 12:40:15 AM »

Kyle's words are always calming and reassuring.  He always
leaves me with a little more hope than I had before his post.
I am thankful to have someone so encouraging on the search.
He's a good man.
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« Reply #86 on: January 21, 2008, 12:52:23 AM »

Well, I have gone through lots of Myspaces tonight, and found Fleur and Stephanie.  http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=131301032   Looks like some are moms now.  Go watch the pics, very interesting.
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« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2008, 12:56:12 AM »

Did that Daniel say that the Prime Minister paid their way down there ?
I found the sound quality to be bad and I didn't quite understand where they got their  " facts " from.  Don't know why they were given air time at all and as much as I dislike Julia, I hope she takes them to the cleaners.
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« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2008, 01:01:51 AM »

Did that Daniel say that the Prime Minister paid their way down there ?
I found the sound quality to be bad and I didn't quite understand where they got their  " facts " from.  Don't know why they were given air time at all and as much as I dislike Julia, I hope she takes them to the cleaners.

I'm not sure.  According to MF, they had to take out a loan to pay for this trip but I think the previouse 3 trips were paid for.
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« Reply #89 on: January 21, 2008, 01:10:59 AM »

Update on Dengue Fever which is very widespread in the region.  Note some do NOT participate in reporting their cases to this international organization trying to track outbreaks.


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[4] Puerto Rico
Date: Thu 10 Jan 2008
Source: PR Inside [edited]
<http://www.pr-inside.com/puerto-rico-s-dengue-fever-outbreak-last-r381248.htm>


Puerto Rico saw 11 000 cases of dengue last year [2007], the fever's worst
outbreak in the US Caribbean territory in nearly a decade, a health
official said on Thursday [10 Jan 2008].

Dengue, which is spread by mosquitoes, killed 4 adults and 4 children in
Puerto Rico during 2007, state epidemiologist Enid Garcia said in releasing
the final tally for the year. The oldest victim was 80 and the youngest 5
months old. "It wasn't the worst we've had, but it was a serious epidemic,"
Garcia said in an interview with The Associated Press.

The 10 964 cases recorded for the year [2007] were the most in Puerto Rico
since a 1998 outbreak that caused 17 000 cases and 19 deaths, Garcia said.
A 1994 outbreak totaled 24 000 cases.

In one of the worst years for dengue in recent decades, Latin America and
the Caribbean counted nearly 800 000 reported cases and nearly 250 deaths
in 2007, according to the Pan American Health Organization. Final figures
were not yet available.

There is no vaccine for the tropical virus, which generally causes fever,
headaches and extreme joint and muscle pain, among other symptoms. Once
thought to have been nearly eliminated from Latin America, dengue has
gained strength in the region since the early 1980s in part because tourism
and migration are circulating 4 different strains, increasing the risk of
multiple exposure and making it more likely an infection will develop into
the severe hemorrhagic form of the virus.

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ProMED-mail <promed@promedmail.org>

[Puerto Rico can be located in the Caribbean on the ProMED-mail health map
cited above. - Mod.TY]

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[5] Venezuela (Zulia)
Date: Sun 13 Jan 2008
Source: La Verdad [in Spanish, translated & summarised Mod.TY, edited]
<http://www.laverdad.com/detallenew.asp?mostrar=10&idcat=9&idnot=67268>


During the 1st week of 2008, 650 dengue cases were recorded in the state of
Zulia, according to information provided by Nancy Perez, viceminister of
health. Of these, 239 cases were registered in Maracaibo, 108 in San
Francisco, 35 in Machiques and 241 in the rest of the municipalities. The
state [Zulia] leads in the national dengue case statistics. According to
the numbers from the National Health System, 2007 ended with 18 683 dengue
cases in the entire region.

National and regional health authorities met yesterday [12 Jan 2008] in the
Corito Medical Diagnostic Center to officially inaugurate the [dengue]
preventive, corrective and eradication campaign.

Adaly Abreu, coordinator of the Cristo de Aranza neighborhood Health and
Defense Committee, indicated that the campaign started in that neighborhood
because there were 16 dengue cases during the 1st week of January [2008],
the highest number of all the neighborhoods.

Just in this neighborhood, more than 15 000 families will benefit from the
National Plan for the Fight against Dengue in Zulia. The hope is to extend
the campaign to Manuel Dagnino, Francisco Eugenio Bustamante, Cecilio
Acosta, Chiquinquira and the rest of the state.

This project, presided over by the Mayor of Maracaibo, will pursue a
thorough environmental clean-up to hit and eradicate _Aedes aegypti_
mosquito breeding sites, the cause of the disease [virus transmission].

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ProMED-ESP <promed@promedmail.org>

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[6] Brazil (Rio de Janeiro)
Date: Sun 13 Jan 2008
Source: Folha Online [in Portuguese, translated & summarised Mod.TY, edited]
<http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u363007.shtml>


An adolescent died of suspected DHF Saturday [12 Jan 2008] in Duque de
Caxias, in the metropolitan region of Rio de Janeiro. He was admitted to
the municipal hospital on Friday [11 Jan 2008] but died. A blood sample was
sent to the Caju Hospital in Rio city, where the cause of death is being
investigated. The results will be available within a week.

The secretary of health of Duque de Caxias said that a team will be sent to
fight this possible dengue focus in the area where this adolescent lived
but that the area did not pose a risk [of dengue].

Last week [week of 6 Jan 2008], the municipality initiated an offensive
against dengue and examined nearly 3500 houses. On this occasion, the
prefecture collected [water-holding containers] and taught [the residents]
to eliminate the breeding sites of the vector mosquito.

Despite registering one of the lowest indices of dengue cases, Duque de
Caxias is neighbor to Mage municipality, a locality that presented a high
dengue [case] index last year [2007].

In the entire state of Rio de Janeiro in 2007, more than 60 000 dengue
cases were registered, a number 2 times greater than the year before, 2006.

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ProMED_PORT <promed@promedmail.org>

[The people's perceptions, as well as those of the press, are bizarre. A
few cases of sylvan [jungle/rural] yellow fever, which does not represent
practically any risk, raised a big commotion, while an increasing dengue
epidemic, with an increasing number of serious cases and deaths, causes
little impact. - Mod.LJS

An interactive ProMED health map of Brazil can be accessed at:
<http://healthmap.org/promed?v=-10.8,-53.1,4>. - Mod.TY]
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« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2008, 01:20:15 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/3548/5/

A suicide.

Dama haya morto den flemmingstraat       
Sunday, 20 January 2008 

Diadomingo anochi den Flemmingstraat na playa Dr Lily Beke a constata morto di un señora cu ta traha den e mundo di enfermeria. Aparentemente e señora lo mester a comete suicidio, pero no sa di kiko ainda ja cu no a encontra nada banda di dje cu ta indica kiko e lo mester a tuma. E curpa a wordo tuma den beslag pa asina bay saca afor ta kiko por a pasa exactamente.

TOD y fiscal a presenta na e sitio pa asina hasi investigacioon riba e caso aki. Palabra di condolencia y forsa na e famianan.

Online Pap translator:

lady achieve dead in flemmingstraat
sunday, 20 january 2008

diadomingo night in flemmingstraat at beach dr lily beke owing to constata dead of one madam cu is work in the world of enfermeria. apparently the madam will have to owing to comete suicidio, but not know of what still ja cu not owing to encontra nothing near of dje cu is indica what the will have to did take. the curpa owing to wordo take in beslag for so bay saca afor is what can owing to happen exactly.

tod y fiscal owing to present at the sitio for so make investigacioon on the caso here. word of condolencia y compel at the famianan.

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http://www.24ora.com/content/view/3538/8/

Sorry; don't know what happened here, but "maltreatment" seems to be involved ...

Hoben a wordo malamente maltrata       
Sunday, 20 January 2008 

Diadomingo marduga a sosode un caso lamentabel unda cu desconocirnan den un auto blanco lo mester a yega na un cas y baha for di auto. E persona riba e imagen a wordo malamente agredi y a keda gravemente herida. Nos por compronde cu e persona aki ta un conocido di polis pero e no por a indica kendenan ta e personanan cu a comete e acto aki. Ambulance a transporta e persona pa ricibi tratamento.

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young owing to wordo malamente maltrata
sunday, 20 january 2008

diadomingo marduga owing to sosode one caso regrettable where cu desconocirnan in one car blanco will have to owing to arrive at one cas y descend for of car. the person on the imagen owing to wordo malamente agredi y owing to stay gravemente injury. we can compronde cu the person here is one conocido of police but the not can owing to indica kendenan is the personanan cu owing to comete the acto here. ambulance owing to transporta the person for ricibi tratamento.

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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2008, 01:57:39 AM »

Klaas,
When you have a chance please check the post Elaine made regarding a link I posted in the "Ocean Search" thread.  If you think it would be best to remove the link, please do, I truly was unaware and intended no harm.  Thanks in advance.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2008, 02:04:36 AM »

Klaas,
When you have a chance please check the post Elaine made regarding a link I posted in the "Ocean Search" thread.  If you think it would be best to remove the link, please do, I truly was unaware and intended no harm.  Thanks in advance.

Texasmom - thanks for letting me know.  I did remove the link.  I know you didn't realize that the person that hosts that site is very anti-Natalee and family.


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« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2008, 02:15:17 AM »

Klaas,
When you have a chance please check the post Elaine made regarding a link I posted in the "Ocean Search" thread.  If you think it would be best to remove the link, please do, I truly was unaware and intended no harm.  Thanks in advance.

Texasmom - thanks for letting me know.  I did remove the link.  I know you didn't realize that the person that hosts that site is very anti-Natalee and family.


GOODNIGHT ALL!

Thanks again Klaas, and goodnight! 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2008, 03:00:21 AM »

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« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2008, 03:00:25 AM »

Upcoming Travel Shows

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Boston - Feb. 22-24 2008 
Seaport World Trade Center

"The supporting sponsor for the 2008 Show will be the Aruba Tourist Authority, a publicly funded organization designed to position Aruba as a preferred tourism destination in the Caribbean, encouraging visitors to choose Aruba for their holidays, meetings, incentives and conventions."

http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/

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New York - Feb 29-Mar 2 2008
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center

http://www.nyttravelshow.com/

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SM kooolkatt provides Tshirts or sweatshirts for those who stand up for Natalee at these shows.

Tote bags with flyers enclosed, and banners, signs etc., also are provided.

We need people to help spead the word at these shows. Lacking your physical attendance, $$ donations are welcome to help with the flyers, signs, permit fees, etc. (I think help with gas money also is available.)

Folks in New England really do look forward to a respite from winter, and the Caribbean is a relatively quick destination for them. We need to make sure they know just what Aruba offers to unsuspecting tourists.

For information on how to help, contact SM Vicki at JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com

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« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2008, 03:28:21 AM »

Meant to mention that SM has a thread re. the travel shows -- it's called Tourism Trade Show Listing. This link is to the current page:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1003.240

If you're considering participating, it would be good to read the whole thread - I think it's about 13 pages. Good tips, photos from previous shows, etc.
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« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2008, 07:42:32 AM »

Did that Daniel say that the Prime Minister paid their way down there ?
I found the sound quality to be bad and I didn't quite understand where they got their  " facts " from.  Don't know why they were given air time at all and as much as I dislike Julia, I hope she takes them to the cleaners.

I'm not sure.  According to MF, they had to take out a loan to pay for this trip but I think the previouse 3 trips were paid for.

Guess that means no one is donating money for them to keep their wonderful website going, lmao.
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« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2008, 08:28:34 AM »

Good Morning.

I notice that Dana's show tonight is about those two psychos.
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« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2008, 08:49:34 AM »

Good Morning.

I notice that Dana's show tonight is about those two psychos.

You mean "Frick and Frack"? If they want Indian names, I suggest "Slick Frick" and "Crap Frack".
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