Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 - 1/29/08

[klaasend]

Klaasend:

The Marriot deal is out, but the casino mob deal was not over, they wanted the hotel  to operate the casino.

new key:

music = News

Music = The owner of THE NEWS

Eden = RITZ CARLTON

eden = RITZ CARLTON CASINO

Could they mean owner of news in Aruba?  Like the Chemaly's (sp)?  Or an editor like Julia Renfro? 

I'll see if I can come up with anything on the Ritz Carlton Casino.

[CapsLockWizard]

This may Help

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the NEWS and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen ROLLED
Mary ROLLED

[klaasend]

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?p=211157&highlight=ritz#211157

Aruba Will Receive A 190 Million Dollar Five Star Property


June 2nd 2005, Aruba.




(FYI - this is the exact same area that Joran said he left Natalee on the beach)
 
The yellow stipple line indicates the construction lot for Ritz Carlton
Aruba, the red stipple line the rearranged road towards Westpunt.



PALM BEACH- After a period of silence the government has announced the
construction date of a brand new luxurious hotel on the island. The first
construction stone of the Ritz Carlton property will be placed during a
ceremony on July 14th 2005. The ultra luxurious Ritz Carlton Hotel Aruba
will elevate the tourism product quality of the island. In view that there is
barely a low-season and many hotels on the island are constantly full, the
arrival of the hotel is definitely good news according to the government.
The government hopes that the arrival of Ritz Carlton will contribute
greatly to the economic development on the island.


The construction of Ritz Carlton Aruba is estimated at 190 million dollars.
The investors are Marriott International and Bazarian International, Ritz
Carlton will operate the property. Ritz Carlton has a few properties in the
Caribbean that include Montego Bay, San Juan, St. Thomas, Cancun and
shortly an opening of a property in Grand Cayman. The Ritz Carlton
Hotels & Resort is part of Marriott International Incorporated.

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?p=233315&highlight=ritz#233315
Ritz-Carlton Coming Soon


July 25th 2005, Aruba.


ORANJESTAD-There has been a notable change of plans in the
Ritz-Carlton project that was set to start on July 14th. The construction
date was cancelled in so to avoid the project of being the subject of
political discussion so close to the parliamentary election in September
says Nelson Oduber, Prime Minister of Aruba. Oduber says that initially
Bazarian International wanted to realize the hotel project and have
Ritz-Carlton operate the property. Marriott International has now opted to
step out of that idea and wants to develop the hotel property
by itself in view of the good name of Aruba’s tourism product. At present
negotiations are being held between Carl Bazarian and Kevin Kearney
Chief Executive Vice President of Marriott Corp International Hotel
Development in handing over the project.


The Ritz-Carlton Aruba will be a five star hotel consisting out of 220
luxurious suites, 67 guesthouses and a casino. The project has a price tag
of US$ 190 million and will create 500 jobs on the island. The Ritz-Carlton
will not be granted a tax holiday, thus will pay property taxes to the
government of Aruba.


In 1995 Marriott International purchased 49 percent interest in
Ritz-Carlton. Three years later, that interest was increased to 99 percent.
At present there are three Ritz-Carlton’s in the region that include
Montego Bay in Jamaica, San Juan in Puerto Rico and St. Thomas in the
U.S. Virgin Islands. The Ritz-Carlton is opening a property in the Cayman
Islands in the Fall of 2005. The Turks & Caicos Islands are getting their
Ritz-Carlton in 2007.


http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?p=463726&highlight=ritz#463726

Ritz Carlton, Out! Four Seasons, In?!



January 10th 2007, Aruba.



PALM BEACH-Aruba will not receive the luxurious hotel chain Ritz Carlton.
The Ministry of General Affairs has decided to terminate negotiations with
Ritz Carlton on December 30th 2006. The decision is confirmed by the
government spokesperson, Manolo Giel.

A few of the requirements set by Ritz Carlton to construct a hotel on the
island were the greatest obstacles for reaching an agreement. Ritz Carlton
demanded a tax holiday, that would exempt the hotel from paying
all types of taxes. The government is not willing to grant new tax
holidays to any hotels on the island, including Ritz Carlton.

The Ritz Carlton was to be constructed north of the Aruba Marriott Resort
building, on the last lot left directly on Palm Beach (where Fishermen huts
is located). The site is used by locals and windsurfers for recreational
purposes. The environmental organization StimaAruba is relieved that the
hotel is not coming. It claims that the site should be protected for turtles,
locals, as well as for those practising the sport of windsurfing.

Nevertheless the government will continue its pursuit to find a top notch
hotel for the site. There are a few parties interested, including Four
Seasons and Regency. Now that negotiations with Ritz Carlton have been
terminated, the government will begin talks with one of these hotel chains
said Manolo Giel.

[klaasend]

This may Help

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the NEWS and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen ROLLED
Mary ROLLED

Early in the case there was a fire in I think the Marriott near the top floor where some of the news people were staying, if I'm remembering correctly.

There has been discussions about a party for the "elders" in one of the hotels and that maybe Natalee was taken there.

[dennisintn]

Kinda look's like Mos in the background. I wouldn't mind hearing his comments about Judge Wit saying Dompig obstructed Justice when they blocked the search of the VDS house 

*******, dompig told greta they had asked to search the entire sloot home.  the judge at the house is the one who restricted the search to jvds' apt.  was witt the judge that was there?  help me out here, i'm old and it's past my couchtime.
dennisintn
[/quote]

Haha..Yes same Judge..If that's the case why hasn't Dompig spoke up? He was in the papers weekly before that article and being accused of obstructing justice to 2 people suspected of kidnapping and murder is quite a accusation. All I believe at the moment is that the Police were stunned when they arrived and found out they could only search Joran's Apt and the 2 cars and Wit changed the search warrant. Dompig said they were denied a search warrant when PVDS was arrested and Judge Wit said they(OM) never asked to search anything more after searching Jorans Apt. This whole subject is completely outrageous and they are caught! They are all lying!


[/quote]
well, they've been lying since 30th of may, 2005.  now they're turning on each other to take the heat off of themselves.  this could possibly, if mos and jorg are watching closely, get very, very interesting.  i was beginning to think they were going to get away with this, but maybe not.  thanks to the courage and tenacity of dave and beth and their families and friends.  include the american media in that also.
dennisintn

[CapsLockWizard]

Klaasend:
 
Maybe the Holiday Casino Owners was promised the operation of the Casino in the Ritz Carlton

I smell The AHATA Group has someting on their sleeves.

I Also believe now his Lordship was one that suppose to bring the money and close the deal.

If I recall The Prime Minster , Nelson always keep boosting that he will bring the Ritz to Aruba. so he must be also in the band. (the whole MEP Cabinet and Parlament is corrupt, Including the Prime Minster). I do believe now also that the reason he is Traveling up and Down is to make sure he find some one to pay for what ever open debt they have with the MOP.

This will be the end of the crooks. No wonder they made Aruba so expensive to Live..They needed money to pay some one...it is all an stage...they have not done notting for the boy that is missing and I find it very strange... Maybe he did know something and he got vanished like Natalee. 

huummm

[Tylergal]

Tylergal - I mean seriously, have you seen some of Jenna's theories?  She really needs help. 

I don't ever read there -- do the nuts over there nod their heads in agreement -- or do even them shudder with embarrassment? She CAN'T be a proud addition to their cause!!! (or am I underestimating them again?)

I think that even most of them wonder what drugs she's on.  Sometimes Heli buys into some of her outlandish theories though. 

I had to leave when I typed that, Klaas, I thought my house had been broken into.  The silly dog got off the bed at the headboard, into the shutters in the guest bedroom, where I have the bed pushed up against the window. It sounded like my house was falling apart, almost as bad as the night the guy took out my brick mailbox and 2 trees.

[Tylergal]

The gang's all here for the memorial for Betico Croes. Anyone recognize the Fat guy next to Oduber?  He doesn't look Aruban to me or part of the MEP,look's more like a Italian or Colombian.MO

I don't know but his "date" looks dressed very "festive" for a funeral.  I think of Idstlou's sig. line: "Get inside my belly"

How hard is it to find a pair of pants that are 40W and 30L?

[klaasend]

Klaasend:
 
Maybe the Holiday Casino Owners was promised the operation of the Casino in the Ritz Carlton

I smell The AHATA Group has someting on their sleeves.

I Also believe now his Lordship was one that suppose to bring the money and close the deal.

If I recall The Prime Minster , Nelson always keep boosting that he will bring the Ritz to Aruba. so he must be also in the band. (the whole MEP Cabinet and Parlament is corrupt, Including the Prime Minster). I do believe now also that the reason he is Traveling up and Down is to make sure he find some one to pay for what ever open debt they have with the MOP.

This will be the end of the crooks. No wonder they made Aruba so expensive to Live..They needed money to pay some one...it is all an stage...they have not done notting for the boy that is missing and I find it very strange... Maybe he did know something and he got vanished like Natalee. 

huummm

Which BOY that is missing are you referring to?  So you are saying that maybe Posner (owner of the Excelsior Casino at the Holiday Inn) maybe was offered to be the owner of the Stellaris Casino that was or is now still at the Marriott?

I'm going to be calling it a night in a few minutes.

[CapsLockWizard]

Klaasend:

Who Operate the news or who is the Owner, aslo who is the reporter in the Case of Natalee

Marriotte back out the deal for Ritz Carlton

Q: Which Casino Group was going to operate there?

Not sure if I understand your question fully.  I may be able to find out the Casino question.  What do you mean about the Reporter?

Right now it's the Stellaris Casino:

http://www.stellariscasino.com/contact.htm

From the Aruba Chamber website:

ARUBA MARRIOTT RESORT & STELLARIS CASINO 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 101, NOORD 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  PLANT HOTEL N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  22 DECEMBER 1992 
Last amendment in the articles  7 SEPTEMBER 2007 
     
Authorized capital  US DOLLAR 30,000,000.00 
Issued capital  US DOLLAR 27,750,000.00 
Paid up capital  US DOLLAR 27,750,000.00 
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER 
  
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
BLATT, KENNETH MARC;  
Residing in  220 RIVERSIDE BLVD, APT. 41-D, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10069, U.S.A. 
Born in  U.S.A., NEW JERSEY on 6 JUNE 1959 
Nationality  AMERICAN 
Position  SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER 
Effective  7 SEPTEMBER 2007 
  
INGWERSEN, MARC CHRISTIAAN; 
Residing in  KURIMIAUW 9-C, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 9 AUGUST 1967 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  14 NOVEMBER 2006 
Authority  RESTRICTED 
  
ZIPPIN, STANLEY ROBERT; 
Residing in  11554 KNIGHTSBRIDGE PLACE , WELLINGTON, FLORIDA 33467, U.S.A. 
Born in  U.S.A., NEW YORK on 28 DECEMBER 1959 
Nationality  AMERICAN 
Position  SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER 
Effective  7 SEPTEMBER 2007 
  
BLANK, ERIKA LYNN; 
Residing in  124 N. WALNUT STREET , RIDGEWOOD, NJ 07450, U.S.A. 
Born in  U.S.A., NEW YORK on 23 OCTOBER 1974 
Nationality  AMERICAN 
Position  SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER 
Effective  7 SEPTEMBER 2007 

Just an other Observation:

Normaly the Americans Hotel Chains so far I know here in Aruba, all are beween Aruba born Nationalities and Americans. I find it very odd for the Nijmegen man to be the Managing Director..

[klaasend]

CapsLock - are you talking about this boy that is missing?  I realize he's not really a "boy", just asking. 

[Tylergal]

Is it the DeVries kid that went missing, whose family were accused unjustly of trying to gain monetarily from an insurance company, when in fact, the mother did charitable contributions with the proceeds.

[klaasend]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

[klaasend]

Is it the DeVries kid that went missing, whose family were accused unjustly of trying to gain monetarily from an insurance company, when in fact, the mother did charitable contributions with the proceeds.

Yes, I thought about Max DeVries too. 

Now I really have to call it a night!

[CapsLockWizard]

The Holiday Casino Is operated by who? ...

I am asking if this "who" was promised by the Aruba Government, that his gangs will get the CASINO operation deal, If they follow the game plan to get money from....Either from Holland or some Other source by Extortion. So that He, the Prime Minister will show that he has delivert all his Promisses and by this securing for the next election another 4 yrs of corruptions. by orquestrating a Diabolic plan where some one innocent girl became a pawn which was sacrified.

[Observer]

*******, dompig told greta they had asked to search the entire sloot home.  the judge at the house is the one who restricted the search to jvds' apt.  was witt the judge that was there?  help me out here, i'm old and it's past my couchtime.
dennisintn

[/quote]
well, they've been lying since 30th of may, 2005. now they're turning on each other to take the heat off of themselves.  this could possibly, if mos and jorg are watching closely, get very, very interesting.  i was beginning to think they were going to get away with this, but maybe not.  thanks to the courage and tenacity of dave and beth and their families and friends.  include the american media in that also.
dennisintn
[/quote]

I hope so dennis..Dompig didn't say squat after that article as it's probably not too smart to call a Supreme Court Judge a liar. The Judge speaking out made everyone look more corrupt,especially Dompig and Janssen.

[Observer]

The Holiday Casino Is operated by who? ...

Michael Posner owns and operates the Excelsior, Holiday Inn,Brickel Bay and Grand Holiday Casinos

[sharon]

And ready for some HIGH WATER!

 

Good one!

 

[sharon]

Klaasend:

The Marriot deal is out, but the casino mob deal was not over, they wanted the hotel  to operate the casino.

new key:

music = News

Music = The owner of THE NEWS

Eden = RITZ CARLTON

eden = RITZ CARLTON CASINO

What an odd reality the riddle has taken on.

[sharon]

Klaasend:
 
Maybe the Holiday Casino Owners was promised the operation of the Casino in the Ritz Carlton

I smell The AHATA Group has someting on their sleeves.

I Also believe now his Lordship was one that suppose to bring the money and close the deal.

If I recall The Prime Minster , Nelson always keep boosting that he will bring the Ritz to Aruba. so he must be also in the band. (the whole MEP Cabinet and Parlament is corrupt, Including the Prime Minster). I do believe now also that the reason he is Traveling up and Down is to make sure he find some one to pay for what ever open debt they have with the MOP.

This will be the end of the crooks. No wonder they made Aruba so expensive to Live..They needed money to pay some one...it is all an stage...they have not done notting for the boy that is missing and I find it very strange... Maybe he did know something and he got vanished like Natalee. 

huummm

Wow.

Great English syntax here.