Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[MumInOhio]

Sorry Lala's...and the fallen elder may have departed back to Babylon...LOL

[Lala'sMom]

I give up!  If it's not a confession then what good is this?  How stupid are the Kalpoes?  To live this nightmare each day for over 2 years and not be involved?  How really stupid is that? 

[Tamikosmom]

Posted by JOS at BFN:

30 year old Aruban man meets Joran in Nijmegen casino and becomes acquainted. He realizes this is THE Joran. He tapes later conversations in the casino, which was asked from him by Peter. Joran confesses it was accidental, and he got rid of the body himself. Kalpoe brothers are not involved AT ALL.

I contend that this is all a setup.  Joran becomes the sacrificial lamb and excepts responsibility for what happened.  Paulus as well as the Kalpoes (who can implicate Paulus) are given a free pass.  Joran who was a minor at the time of the "incident" will receive a slap on the wrist.

The fact that a 17 year old boy with no medical degree determined that Natalee Holloway was deceased and ... not just passed out ...  prior to disposing of her remains will never be questioned.

Case Closed!

Janet

[wreck]

Quit worrying about Joran's punishment -- we will just be disappointed. Rejoice that we have the answers and Natalee can rest in peace. Aruba in general and those involved will be dealt a punishment from karma -- count on it.

[truthseeker2]

i dont care

i just lit a cigar


Peter got em

the DUTCH did get them all 

Here...grab another one!

[Spock]

Notice D'Vries is saying "it happened at the beach".  Go back and look at the Aru-Bay videos of the red stained rocks and the "painting over".

[Tamikosmom]

Posted by JOS at BFN:

30 year old Aruban man meets Joran in Nijmegen casino and becomes acquainted. He realizes this is THE Joran. He tapes later conversations in the casino, which was asked from him by Peter. Joran confesses it was accidental, and he got rid of the body himself. Kalpoe brothers are not involved AT ALL.

I contend that this is all a setup.  Joran becomes the sacrificial lamb and excepts responsibility for what happened.  Paulus as well as the Kalpoes (who can implicate Paulus) are given a free pass.  Joran who was a minor at the time of the "incident" will receive a slap on the wrist.

The fact that a 17 year old boy with no medical degree determined that Natalee Holloway was deceased and ... not just passed out ...  prior to disposing of her remains will never be questioned.

Case Closed!

Janet

Also ... the sons of the elite (pimps) as well as the "powers that be" involved in or aware of the coverup will be given a free pass.

Now ... Case Closed!

Janet

[MumInOhio]

I give up!  If it's not a confession then what good is this?  How stupid are the Kalpoes?  To live this nightmare each day for over 2 years and not be involved?  How really stupid is that? 

I think they have something on Satish with probably a car.

BB.....Lorenzo got a get of jail free card from somewhere!

[Observer]

People close to the case are using the words Bombshell and Confession. Peter De Vries says it is a confession,the most spectacular video he has seen in his career and he solved the case. Watch the Video!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22936385#22936385

[klaasend]

Posted at BFN:

All we hear now is rumours. Nobody knows , because deVries and Mos will not talk now.
The fact that Beth came to Holland on invitation to see with her own eyes what was discovered tells me DeVries really found the solution of the case.
If it is enough for a conviction is not important to Beth. She wanted to know what happened.
DeVries seems to have found what happened , and he shared this information with Beth today.
That is the most important thing.
If this leads to a conviction , that would be wonderful , but not the most important thing for Beth and Dave.
We can speculate whatever we want , but nobody knows , except Peter , Beth , Dave and Hans Mos.

[kgwallace88]

again posted at BFN

Nova says: accidental death Holloway, Joran has dumped the body. Different sources says the same thing.


30 year old Aruban man meets Joran in Nijmegen casino and becomes acquainted. He realizes this is THE Joran. He tapes later conversations in the casino, which was asked from him by Peter. Joran confesses it was accidental, and he got rid of the body himself. Kalpoe brothers are not involved AT ALL.

K2 are beneth Joran . . .they were like his slaves.  Just my opinion but don't think they were involved with the disposal of the body.  They just helped provide the alibi.  How could Paulus trust them with his son's life?  He already said he would do ANYTHING to protect him!

[bleachedblack]

My opinion is that Guido was the 5th suspect and the boyfriend from earlier in the week. He sold his car and left the island immediately after the dissapearance. He could have been the last one with Natalee or one of the last.

If D'Vries had in fact solved the case, rearrests would have been made by now. He presented his findings in Aruba a week ago.

I tend to agree. Besides we always thought this reference meant Natalee's boyfriend from earlier in the week. Maybe the reference was really Joran's boyfriend, from earlier in the week?

[nonesuche]

One never knows whether to celebrate or cry at the latest "discovery" in Aruba?

Janet, I hear ya. I don't trust that pile of snakes either.

When Beth says we can trust them, then I will trust anything they report is true. I have no issue with de Vries at all and appreciate how he's championed the quest for justice but I do NOT TRUST ARUBA.

[yapperz1]

Hi,Watch the video!
is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case,and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22936385#22936385

*******:

To me this is describing Joran:

Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case

This is describing the other person to whom Joran was talking:

and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba.

[thirdstrike]

Quit worrying about Joran's punishment -- we will just be disappointed. Rejoice that we have the answers and Natalee can rest in peace. Aruba in general and those involved will be dealt a punishment from karma -- count on it.

Again, right on the money.  I like the way you think wreck!! 

[Spock]

Notice D'Vries is saying "it happened at the beach".  Go back and look at the Aru-Bay videos of the red stained rocks and the "painting over".

Also, it was no accident. You don't hide a body because of an "accident". Calling the death accidental is just spin to get the culprits off the hook and tosave tourism dollars

[kgwallace88]

I tend to agree. Besides we always thought this reference meant Natalee's boyfriend from earlier in the week. Maybe the reference was really Joran's boyfriend, from earlier in the week?


I have always thought it meant Joran's boyfriend!

[Tamikosmom]

One never knows whether to celebrate or cry at the latest "discovery" in Aruba?

Janet, I hear ya. I don't trust that pile of snakes either.

When Beth says we can trust them, then I will trust anything they report is true. I have no issue with de Vries at all and appreciate how he's championed the quest for justice but I do NOT TRUST ARUBA.

Hi none

Hugs

Janet

[hotping]

Posted at BFN:

All we hear now is rumours. Nobody knows , because deVries and Mos will not talk now.
The fact that Beth came to Holland on invitation to see with her own eyes what was discovered tells me DeVries really found the solution of the case.
If it is enough for a conviction is not important to Beth. She wanted to know what happened.
DeVries seems to have found what happened , and he shared this information with Beth today.
That is the most important thing.
If this leads to a conviction , that would be wonderful , but not the most important thing for Beth and Dave.
We can speculate whatever we want , but nobody knows , except Peter , Beth , Dave and Hans Mos.

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

[thirdstrike]

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

Listen, I agree with you completely!!  My only thing is...I'm not sure that's the case with Peter De Vries.  I think for him...the most important thing is ratings!!  Otherwise, his Sunday show would be more of a recapping of the taped "confession", and not it's premiere...