Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[Lala'sMom]

This is not going to be a bombshell...it's going to be a scapegoat scenario....Janet I think you may be right...case closed...again...Joran confessed to her dying accidently while he was there...he panicked...dumped her body...lost his shoes...it's all about Joran...no one else...

provide the scapegoat...cowboys go home happy...dirty hand stays hidden...only one teepee falls...back to One Happy Island... I am feeling sick all over again.

[vms]

Hi,Watch the video!
is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case,and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22936385#22936385

*******:

To me this is describing Joran:

Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case

This is describing the other person to whom Joran was talking:

and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba.

Yes, that's what I think also.

[Starr]

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

Listen, I agree with you completely!!  My only thing is...I'm not sure that's the case with Peter De Vries.  I think for him...the most important thing is ratings!!  Otherwise, his Sunday show would be more of a recapping of the taped "confession", and not it's premiere...

AMEN

[Observer]

Yap:

You may be right about Joran being the dutch man previously a suspect. De Vries certainly thinks he solved the case and I think this is the end of the line for PJK2.
People close to the case are using the words Bombshell and Confession. Peter De Vries says it is a confession,the most spectacular video he has seen in his career and he solved the case.

[Spock]

This is not going to be a bombshell...it's going to be a scapegoat scenario....Janet I think you may be right...case closed...again...Joran confessed to her dying accidently while he was there...he panicked...dumped her body...lost his shoes...it's all about Joran...no one else...

provide the scapegoat...cowboys go home happy...dirty hand stays hidden...only one teepee falls...back to One Happy Island... I am feeling sick all over again.

Yep, another version of the events. Each new version somewhat closer to the truth, but never the truth.

[hotping]

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

Listen, I agree with you completely!!  My only thing is...I'm not sure that's the case with Peter De Vries.  I think for him...the most important thing is ratings!!  Otherwise, his Sunday show would be more of a recapping of the taped "confession", and not it's premiere...

My thoughts are that Peter and perhaps Mos have a strategy....to maybe flush out some more talk that could be taped as more evidence.....I say lets wait and see...who knows where they might still have bugs....

[blah]

Folks - I am way behind and I hate to always seem like a pessimist around here BUT....

Dont get get your hopes up too much how many times have we been through this in the past?  Countless times!!

Until at the very MINUMUM Paulus and Joran are BOTH locked up, I will not believe anything is for real or we are any closer to justice.  If I see Paulus is locked up, then I will believe this thing might have some teeth.

And as far as Mos goes - he has ZERO credibility especially after that bullshit he pulled last month!

[dennisintn]

since we're just hearing rumors about what's on the tape, i'll wait till sunday night, but i'll tell you now, that if jvds is "confessing" anything that will cost him time in jail i'll be shocked to death. 
dennisintn

[thirdstrike]

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

Listen, I agree with you completely!!  My only thing is...I'm not sure that's the case with Peter De Vries.  I think for him...the most important thing is ratings!!  Otherwise, his Sunday show would be more of a recapping of the taped "confession", and not it's premiere...

My thoughts are that Peter and perhaps Mos have a strategy....to maybe flush out some more talk that could be taped as more evidence.....I say lets wait and see...who knows where they might still have bugs....

You know, I said earlier I was going to try and give this guy the benefit of the doubt on this one.  But, I have to tell you...it's getting hard to do that based on all the frustrations we've experienced over the years.

But, to get back to your point, I'm not sure that's the case.  If it were, De Vries wouldn't have made public that he does, in fact, have a confession just yet.  He'd wait until he had the guy dead to rights, and then release the info.  Based on the release of news that there was new evidence he's to present on Sunday, you can bet a few dollars that the supposed "months long investigation" is more then over at this point...

[CJ1]

On Cavuto, RoseMarie Arnold says she is not concerned because Joran was not involved.

[thirdstrike]

And as far as Mos goes - he has ZERO credibility especially after that bullshit he pulled last month!

We can curse in here now?? 

[klaasend]

On Cavuto, RoseMarie Arnold says she is not concerned because Joran was not involved.

What would you expect a defense attorney to say?

[hotping]

The most important thing is to find Natalee and bring Her Home....God Bless The Persistence!

Listen, I agree with you completely!!  My only thing is...I'm not sure that's the case with Peter De Vries.  I think for him...the most important thing is ratings!!  Otherwise, his Sunday show would be more of a recapping of the taped "confession", and not it's premiere...

My thoughts are that Peter and perhaps Mos have a strategy....to maybe flush out some more talk that could be taped as more evidence.....I say lets wait and see...who knows where they might still have bugs....

You know, I said earlier I was going to try and give this guy the benefit of the doubt on this one.  But, I have to tell you...it's getting hard to do that based on all the frustrations we've experienced over the years.

But, to get back to your point, I'm not sure that's the case.  If it were, De Vries wouldn't have made public that he does, in fact, have a confession just yet.  He'd wait until he had the guy dead to rights, and then release the info.  Based on the release of news that there was new evidence he's to present on Sunday, you can bet a few dollars that the supposed "months long investigation" is more then over at this point...

OK think about it ...this news breaks today in Aruba..Everyone is freaking out Sloots Kalpoes everyone involved has to talk about it....whose to say that they want get more evidence by tapped phones or bugs in homes...but the best thing to do is wait and see...MO 

[cubbeegirl]

a friend of  PAULUS 

Paulus has friends????

hi Cubbee!  good to see you!!

Hi Sunny! Good to see you!!!

[Observer]

This accidental death scenario is crap!! All this say's for me if true is Joran is indeed admitting he is responsible. He opened up a can of worms and all the other evidence and witnesses will prove he is FOS about dumping Natalee's body by himself. Even if the death was accidental manslaughter theres alot more lesser charges to be tacked on like drugging her,rape,kidnapping and hiding her body. If Natalee's body is found I am confident the forensics will disclose a head wound and prove he is lying. Not only that but we know we have multiple witnesses who say Joran drugged them and sexually assaulted them in the past plus the bartender that had seen them practicly dragging Natalee out of C&C because she could barely walk. Also his psychologist who talked to Dan Riehl and he admitted Joran had drugged girls and has anger problems. It will all add up and Joran's accidental death bs will not be believable.

Let them try this scapegoat bs..It will blow up in there face bigtime!

[Tamikosmom]

Folks - I am way behind and I hate to always seem like a pessimist around here BUT....

Dont get get your hopes up too much how many times have we been through this in the past?  Countless times!!

Until at the very MINUMUM Paulus and Joran are BOTH locked up, I will not believe anything is for real or we are any closer to justice.  If I see Paulus is locked up, then I will believe this thing might have some teeth.

And as far as Mos goes - he has ZERO credibility especially after that bullshit he pulled last month!

Blah ... I am with ya on both counts.

I contend that this is Aruba's plan to bring closure to the Natalee Holloway case without bringing down Paulus ... the sons of the elite ... those involved in the coverup as well as ... the judiciary.

I suspect that Devries was used in a despicable way.  The tape was handed to him to provide some distance between implication of Joran and the "powers that be" in the corrupt investigation.

Janet

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:


Just in Pauw & Witteman-show a piece of the coming PRdeVries-show.
Beth after seeing the hidden-cam stuff etc. Shocked…: “Look what they’ve done to Natalee… Look what they’ve done to our country… Look what they’ve done Natalee….” (Did they maybe do something to the body of Natalee after she was killed?”


Jan 31, 6:12 PM

[dennisintn]

On Cavuto, RoseMarie Arnold says she is not concerned because Joran was not involved.

right, rosemarie lies as freely as joe taco.  why would anyone believe her?  by the way, where was all that evidence taco had that would totally exonerate jvds from having anything to do with natalee's disappearance when jvds was supposedly sitting mute in solitary for l5 days?  jvds and taco had the complete attention of klpd, ale, and mos for clearing his name then and they didn't take advantage of it, yet jvds comes out of jail screaming for a trial so he can clear himself.  i was born at night, but it wasn't last night.  i don't believe a word of anything any of them say.
dennisintn
dennisintn

[robots]

i am totally 100 convinced with PETER on the case and this NEW EVIENCE
that there will be an arrest a trial, a conviction and a massive IMPLOSION from ARUBA


thank you peter


ROBOTS 

[klaasend]

From another front page poster:

Leonoor wrote:

Peter R. de Vries is a guest in the dutch program ‘Pauw & Witteman’. A short video of Natalee’s mother was shown. In this video she says: “Look what they have done. Look what they have done to Natalee.”

Jan 31, 6:14 PM