Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[wreck]

Yes, we are ALL skeptical. This is different -- this is NOT coming from Aruba and their ilk. The Arubans have played the "ruse" card once too many times. This is finally it as far as the whole world knowing what really happened. This is only the tip of the iceberg. As each "perp" falls -- they will in turn blame someone else until even those only involved in the "cover-up" will be exposed. No one is going down alone. No amount of spin from Aruba is going to change the perception of Aruba now -- it's too late. Aruba made their choice 2 1/2 years ago. May it sink into the ocean.

[Observer]

Carpe just posted this..

Neil with Greta..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hvAO-wSnOO8

[Kat_Gram]

I don't have any cigars. If I did, I would light one up.
I also hope that Beth is not in NL by herself.
I have faith in DeVries, he has gone beyond the call in his quest. Who else of his stature has ? Gertie ? Any of the American media people ? The American media for the most part have not taken a hard line with any of the Sloots, they are ratings and PR whores. The programs they did all had agreements with the Sloots and were more of an Infotainment show, so don't criticize DeVries !
Several people tried, but DeVries set out the cheese in his trap.. ..
All it probably took was a few drinks, some trust and Joran's mouth.
 

[sylvia]

From http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Dutch TV channel SBS 6 just reported that there are strong rumours that Joran van der Sloot just confessed to the murder. Neighbours in Arnhem, where Van der Sloot studies law haven't seen him at all the last few weeks.

The Aruban Justice department is reporting that arrests will be made soon and apparently de Vries managed to get a hidden camera confession out of van der Sloot. The rumour is that van der Sloot claims it was an accident.

De Vries definitively stated that Natalee Holloway is dead and that he knows how she died and what happened to the body. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty is reportedly flying back to the U.S. shortly.

[Tibrogargan]

Puff Puff Puff ...

Catching up - it is like old times here with pages filling faster than you can read, but wonderful news with which to wake up.  Thank you Lalas for the heads up -read at 6 am my time  LOL

I am optimistic about there being a resolution now but even if we do not see any or even sufficient punishment for the perpetrators at least I can be thankful that Beth has answers, however painful they are, and all of Natalee's family can get closure and have Natalee back home.

I thank you God for answers to our prayers and for strength and peace to surround Natalee's loved ones.  Thank you also for all the crew on Persistance and  for all the loyal Monkeys who have kept faith that this day would finally arrive.

God bless everyone.

[Tamikosmom]

Posted by JOS at BFN:

30 year old Aruban man meets Joran in Nijmegen casino and becomes acquainted. He realizes this is THE Joran. He tapes later conversations in the casino, which was asked from him by Peter. Joran confesses it was accidental, and he got rid of the body himself. Kalpoe brothers are not involved AT ALL.

I contend that this is all a setup.  Joran becomes the sacrificial lamb and excepts responsibility for what happened.  Paulus as well as the Kalpoes (who can implicate Paulus) are given a free pass.  Joran who was a minor at the time of the "incident" will receive a slap on the wrist.

The fact that a 17 year old boy with no medical degree determined that Natalee Holloway was deceased and ... not just passed out ...  prior to disposing of her remains will never be questioned.

Case Closed!

Janet

Also ... the sons of the elite (pimps) as well as the "powers that be" involved in or aware of the coverup will be given a free pass.

Now ... Case Closed!

Janet

Think about it ... this same scenario put forth by Gerold Dompig in March 22, 2006.  The only difference ... the "powers that be" in Aruba reconsidered and made the determination that the Kapoes were not to be implicated.  Their salvation ...  Deepak and Satish had the ability to implicate Paulus.

Janet
__________

Gerold Dompig
48 Hours Mystery
March 22, 2006

"We feel strongly that she probably went into shock or something happened to her system with all this alcohol maybe on top of that other drugs which either she took or they gave her and that she just collapsed," says Dompig.

The crime, Dompig suspects, occurred when the body was illegally disposed of.  The boys may have acted alone.

"We’re not talking about killers here," he says

[robots]

Yes, we are ALL skeptical. This is different -- this is NOT coming from Aruba and their ilk. The Arubans have played the "ruse" card once too many times. This is finally it as far as the whole world knowing what really happened. This is only the tip of the iceberg. As each "perp" falls -- they will in turn blame someone else until even those only involved in the "cover-up" will be exposed. No one is going down alone. No amount of spin from Aruba is going to change the perception of Aruba now -- it's too late. Aruba made their choice 2 1/2 years ago. May it sink into the ocean.

Wreck baby

im with ya 

this aint ARUBA
spinning this stuff

[yapperz1]

It is very possible there are bugs on the phones, in the walls & attached to furniture on the rock (& a few other places I can't print here)  

  

[Peaches]

I don't mean to be dense but when I go to the link for P & W, then what? 

".....A source close to the investigation told NBC that the information is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case, and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba."

Where are my English teachers?  The noun "Joran van der Sloot" goes with "a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case".  AND  "a person...."  This would someone new.

[Observer]

From http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Dutch TV channel SBS 6 just reported that there are strong rumours that Joran van der Sloot just confessed to the murder. Neighbours in Arnhem, where Van der Sloot studies law haven't seen him at all the last few weeks.

The Aruban Justice department is reporting that arrests will be made soon and apparently de Vries managed to get a hidden camera confession out of van der Sloot. The rumour is that van der Sloot claims it was an accident.

De Vries definitively stated that Natalee Holloway is dead and that he knows how she died and what happened to the body. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty is reportedly flying back to the U.S. shortly.

Thanks Sylvia!

[Nut44x4]

From http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Dutch TV channel SBS 6 just reported that there are strong rumours that Joran van der Sloot just confessed to the murder. Neighbours in Arnhem, where Van der Sloot studies law haven't seen him at all the last few weeks.

The Aruban Justice department is reporting that arrests will be made soon and apparently de Vries managed to get a hidden camera confession out of van der Sloot. The rumour is that van der Sloot claims it was an accident.

De Vries definitively stated that Natalee Holloway is dead and that he knows how she died and what happened to the body. Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty is reportedly flying back to the U.S. shortly.

YES JORAN.......we know SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED!!...........NOW WHERE THE HELL IS SHE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH of the BS Already!! Time to spill it all!!

[Peaches]

Yes, we are ALL skeptical. This is different -- this is NOT coming from Aruba and their ilk. The Arubans have played the "ruse" card once too many times. This is finally it as far as the whole world knowing what really happened. This is only the tip of the iceberg. As each "perp" falls -- they will in turn blame someone else until even those only involved in the "cover-up" will be exposed. No one is going down alone. No amount of spin from Aruba is going to change the perception of Aruba now -- it's too late. Aruba made their choice 2 1/2 years ago. May it sink into the ocean.

Amen, darlin'

[SunnyinTX]

Posted at RU from this show   http://pauwenwitteman.vara.nl/uitzending.php?id=290 :



Beth:
"Look at what they have done,
what they've done to Natalee, what they've done to our country.
What they've done to... to..."

Peter: "To you?"

Beth: Look what they've done...
look what they've done to Natalee"

OK..I am going to admit it...I am a tough old gal...but I lost it reading this post

[wreck]

I don't mean to be dense but when I go to the link for P & W, then what? 

".....A source close to the investigation told NBC that the information is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case, and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba."

Where are my English teachers?  The noun "Joran van der Sloot" goes with "a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case".  AND  "a person...."  This would someone new.

I guess we have to interpret whether this means 1, 2, or 3 different people!!

[sb]

Every time I come close to getting caught up, we have another development in the case. I never see these things on TV, I read them HERE!

I am holding my breath anxiously about this latest thing... I still fear they are going to try to make it look like an accident.

I EXPECTED something along these lines to happen, just didn't know when.

For some reason, I think that this may cause some searching for Natalee on LAND. Could this be a smokescreen to get the Persistence away from something... or is it real?

BETH SEEMS TO THINK IT'S FOR REAL. Let's all hang on.

[klaasend]

Another photo of the preview of DeVries show:

[SunnyinTX]

Posted at RU from this show   http://pauwenwitteman.vara.nl/uitzending.php?id=290 :



Beth:
"Look at what they have done,
what they've done to Natalee, what they've done to our country.
What they've done to... to..."

Peter: "To you?"

Beth: Look what they've done...
look what they've done to Natalee"

THEY??

I noticed that as well.....they

[Lala'sMom]

Oh please Dear God tell me this is not going to blow up in everyone's face.  OMG!  How could Beth and Dave endure much more of this...I just can not believe that DeVries would say anything...anything that he could not back up with evidence...no way!  It just could not be possible...where is Robots when I need him??

[Hotshot]

How can you be a suspect and not be known to the prosecutors?  huh???? That makes no sense to me.  Anybody?

2 different people.

[klaasend]