Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[texasmom]

Joran had lots of help afterwards. Then he had all of Aruba disrespecting Natalee and her family and anyone who went there to help. Why Why Why  ?   

to try to force natalee's family into "shutting up, go home, and get over it".
dennisintn

EXACTLY!  And they've continued to disrespect them until this very minute...they just didn't count on how tough Beth, Dave, the family, and all of their supporters were.  I know many of the supporters I'm speaking of are here now.  Never ever were we going to give up or get over it. 

[robots]

i have the picture in front of me that i drew when she first went missing

half in water and half in not water 

septic tank

[Blue Moon]

Notice how they say they know what they did with the body but are not saying it is retrievable?  I sure hope they can retrieve her body and bring her home to her family.

Any idea as to what it is that they did with Natalee's remains?

I have always been uneasy about the discussion of incinerators.  I cringed every time the topic was brought up here.  For Joran and Paulus this would be their answer to the problem.

[Peaches]

Who was the poster who talked about "joran's cunucu" and "his book is a confession".

I always figured "joran's cunucu" was Moko.  That dovetails with the robots theory of course.  Bet the farm.

[robots]

Who was the poster who talked about "joran's cunucu" and "his book is a confession".

I always figured "joran's cunucu" was Moko.  That dovetails with the robots theory of course.  Bet the farm.

[blah]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

[klaasend]

Who was the poster who talked about "joran's cunucu" and "his book is a confession".

I always figured "joran's cunucu" was Moko.  That dovetails with the robots theory of course.  Bet the farm.

That would be Jonathon45 at Scrux 

[truthseeker2]

Who was the poster who talked about "joran's cunucu" and "his book is a confession".

I always figured "joran's cunucu" was Moko.  That dovetails with the robots theory of course.  Bet the farm.

Jonathan45 from Scrux, maybe?

I have thought about the Moko quarry since back in 2005.  It's close and a place Joran is familiar with.

[truthseeker2]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

I think Beth looks like she finally knows.  Her whole demeanor is different than at any time I have seen he on TV.  She seems to truly believe she knows and she seems a bit shocked about what she has seen and heard.

[texasmom]

I bet PVDS is needing IV fluids at this point!

 

[hotping]

I bet PVDS is needing IV fluids at this point!

 

Him and Anita Both! 

[robots]

poor Beth looks like her heart has been ripped out from her.

one too many times, and yet this time it appears as though she knows EXACTLY
what happened

[blah]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

I think Beth looks like she finally knows.  Her whole demeanor is different than at any time I have seen he on TV.  She seems to truly believe she knows and she seems a bit shocked about what she has seen and heard.

I agree that she looks different than we have ever seen her before....

like shocked/ratteled...

she has always looked strong and focused but here she looks totally unfocused,  i dont know how to describe it

[Nut44x4]

Who was the poster who talked about "joran's cunucu" and "his book is a confession".

I always figured "joran's cunucu" was Moko.  That dovetails with the robots theory of course.  Bet the farm.

She may have been put there at some point....but not the final place.

Jonathan45 from Scrux, maybe?

I have thought about the Moko quarry since back in 2005.  It's close and a place Joran is familiar with.

[calico]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

I think Beth looks like she finally knows.  Her whole demeanor is different than at any time I have seen he on TV.  She seems to truly believe she knows and she seems a bit shocked about what she has seen and heard.

I just had to comment on this because it does in fact appear that Beth has finally learned the truth.  However, I recall Beth saying on GMA that she wouldn't believe anything Joran said about what actually happened to Natalee based on the countless lies he has given up til this point.  So I wonder how this evidence is really pieced together because Beth seems to really believe it.

[robots]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

I think Beth looks like she finally knows.  Her whole demeanor is different than at any time I have seen he on TV.  She seems to truly believe she knows and she seems a bit shocked about what she has seen and heard.

we said the same thing a few seconds apart

she now knows details

[anidac]

Hi monkey friends.  I'm just getting in and seeing the news.  Has any of this been confirmed?

[Scandi]

I don't mean to be dense but when I go to the link for P & W, then what? 

".....A source close to the investigation told NBC that the information is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case, and a person previously unknown to investigators in Aruba."

Where are my English teachers?  The noun "Joran van der Sloot" goes with "a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case".  AND  "a person...."  This would someone new.

The phrase "a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case" is what you call an appositive renaming Joran van der Sloot,thus it is set off with commas.  If you take it out read the sentence and you will see they are talking about Joran AND someone that has not been a suspect before.  That's this English teachers take on the comment! 

What should be the proper punctuation to reflect 2 people?

The punctuation is correct as it is to mean 2 people.  The appositive is set off in commas and that is correct punctuation.

Ok! It seems like there should be a semi colon or parentheses or something!

Hi Wreck,  I think it is good too.  the appositive describes the name that proceeds it.  One could put this in parentheses but it isn't necessary as separating it with commas works in the sentence.  I think a semi colon would be used if there were more than one description given.

I had never heard the word appositive before, so that is interesting!


I sure hope something grabs hold in this case, and have a lot of faith in DeVries.  I heard him talking on a FOX interview over the phone a few min. ago. and when they asked if anyone else was involved in her death besides Joran he said - Could be!

Now that is not a literal translation.  One ear was bended as I was doing something else at the same time.  But it was the jist of it.  xox

How about the preposition "between" being used to refer to two and when more than two involved, it should be "among" instead?

English teachers???  Not sure but that's what I think causes it to refer to only two.

Hi Anna, I'm not an English teacher but it is my primary language.

" . .is a secretly recorded conversation between Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case, and a person previously unknown  . . ."

I think you are right on, as 'between' and 'and' here show the words connecting a Dutch man and a person, the two persons involved in the conversation.

PS:  Just testing how to print colors.  Cool format to work with. ;}

[cubbeegirl]

Short segment:

this is very disturbing, Beth looks very rattled here....

I think Beth looks like she finally knows.  Her whole demeanor is different than at any time I have seen he on TV.  She seems to truly believe she knows and she seems a bit shocked about what she has seen and heard.

I agree that she looks different than we have ever seen her before....

like shocked/ratteled...

she has always looked strong and focused but here she looks totally unfocused,  i dont know how to describe it

I agree, and to me her voice sounds different than I have ever heard it before...

[Nut44x4]

You can hear it in her voice that she does now believe it.
My heart and my thoughts are with the whole family at this time.....especially at this time...when I can hear it in Beth's voice.