Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[Anna]

Greta has never been a prosecutor.  She was professor at Georgetown and then  DEFENSE ATTORNEY only.

That's why she was just on TV saying what Mos had in December was laughable.

But Greta!  What if it was deliberate to get the Sporter to let down his guard and start the inevitable blabbing?  Ever think of that?

Who's laughing now, Greta???????  Hint:  It ain't Joran, I bet!

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[SunnyinTX]

to anyone who listened to FOX when Greta was on the phone.....my phone rang and I missed a part.. ..but I THINK I heard that MOS or PdeV would be making a statement or having apress conference  in an hour?  Did anyone hear it??

[robots]

and a giant thank you to Klass and Mr RED and  Mrs Red ( for putting up with Mr RED ) and everyone else that made it possible to let us come here and
try to help.

thank you very much


this case is over

[hotping]

I think DeVries and Mos have been working on this together.  Hans to release them as suspects so their guard is down and Peter to trap Joran blabbing now that he felt he was no longer a suspect and the case closed.

MO

I totally agree Anna! 

[CapsLockWizard]

Remember this is also a way to say we did not know everything.. Remember there is a Dirtyhand and there is A Dirty FBI and there is a Dirty Court House... Dirty P.M. and there is a whole lot of dirt that has to be wipe clean....


How are you going to battle this... with out revealing the Dirty hands????


it not over till .........???? to be continue...

[CapsLockWizard]

So Where is the Body....

[Lala'sMom]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

[kgwallace88]

What do you expect to happen when thousands of people gather to pray persistently and genuinely over 2 1/2 years?  Peter de Vries will get a lot of credit if this all goes down...fine, as he should.  However, let's not forget who was really behind all this since the beginning.  GOD. 

OE your words truly never cease to bring tears to my eyes!  Thanks be to God from whom ALL our blessings flow!

[Icehawk]

PUT A FORK IN JORAN and PAULUS and K2 and STEVE CROES and all the other MURDERING LYING EVIL BASTARDS
they are done

 

[ala_gunslinger]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Top Gun

[Kermit]

What do you expect to happen when thousands of people gather to pray persistently and genuinely over 2 1/2 years?  Peter de Vries will get a lot of credit if this all goes down...fine, as he should.  However, let's not forget who was really behind all this since the beginning.  GOD. 

All praise and glory to G_d.
A big group hug to those on the Persistence

[Anna]

I am reading as many sites as I can to try to glean any info available.

One thing stand out and is being repeated in many places.  The Dutch who routinely watch DeVries say they have never seen him as emotional as after talking with Beth, tears in his eyes, etc.

Now to those who have continually called Beth names and said she lied, doncha think he might have picked up on any inconsistencies on her part long ago?  Twisting her words does not equal her lying which is what so many have done,shamefully, to meet their own agenda.

But evidently DeVries was very moved.  Also he has SOLVED across Joran's face on his website I believe for this case.  Did not see it but read several placed he has marked this case SOLVED which I don't think he would do unless this is finally the real deal.

Am very cautiously optimistic.  A little bit only for now, however.

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[Lala'sMom]

So Where is the Body....

Maybe Deepak will tell them. He better make a deal....and soon.

[hotping]

Remember this is also a way to say we did not know everything.. Remember there is a Dirtyhand and there is A Dirty FBI and there is a Dirty Court House... Dirty P.M. and there is a whole lot of dirt that has to be wipe clean....


How are you going to battle this... with out revealing the Dirty hands????


it not over till .........???? to be continue...

Yes Caps......It all needs to be out in the open.....Keep working those codes.....Peter might be the man now but You are one heck of a Wizard....Thank You!  

[Kermit]

Remember this is also a way to say we did not know everything.. Remember there is a Dirtyhand and there is A Dirty FBI and there is a Dirty Court House... Dirty P.M. and there is a whole lot of dirt that has to be wipe clean....


How are you going to battle this... with out revealing the Dirty hands????


it not over till .........???? to be continue...

It ain't over!

PAULUS better start singing

[GabbyG]

To Beth, Dave, Robin, Matt AND Jug....I know you know that you are not alone. You are surrounded by love and prayers, and if you feel that you just cant stand any longer...dont worry. There are many here to catch you.
Much love is coming your way!

[klaasend]

Reporter Claims to Crack Natalee Holloway Case
Aruba Reopens Investigation Into Teen's Disappearance

By JESSICA VELMANS
January 31, 2008 10:04:28 AM PST

After a Dutch journalist declared that his private investigation had solved the mysterious disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, the chief prosecutor in Aruba announced today that he is reopening the case.

Reporter Peter R. de Vries said he used a sophisticated network of hidden cameras in what he called an "undercover operation" to obtain evidence that he claimed "has solved the mystery" of Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005.

The mystery behind the disappearance of the blond teenager has eluded efforts by the Aruba police and even the FBI for more than two years.

De Vries said he showed some of the key pieces of evidence to the Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba, Jan. 24, and the island's chief prosecutor, Hans Mos, announced today that he has "intensified [the] investigation of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information."

Mos had publicly closed the investigation last month after an exhausting and often frustrating two-year probe.


"This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared," Mos said today.

He credited de Vries with uncovering the leads and said, "This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee's disappearance."

De Vries said that he and his team had been conducting an undercover operation for several months, and that he would broadcast his findings in a special program on Dutch television this Sunday.

The only piece of the upcoming program the de Vries would release was a conversation between himself and Mos after he showed police the evidence he had collected. "Am I sitting opposite a happy man now?" de Vries asks Mos. The prosecutor is shown answering, "Now at least the truth is surfacing and with that we can at least wrap up this case."

The Alabama teenager disappeared after a boozy night in an Aruban nightclub during a high school graduation trip. She was last seen outside Carols 'n Charlies bar with Joran van der Sloot, who is from Holland, and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, from Aruba. They have twice been arrested, denied any involvement in her disappearance, and released due to lack of evidence.

After his latest release, Van der Sloot did a television interview with de Vries earlier this month where the reporter challenged his honesty. Van der Sloot was calm during the interview, but after the cameras were turned off he threw a glass of wine in de Vries' face.

The incident prompted de Vries to comment, "He doesn't have complete control over his behavior."

Holloway's parents, Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway, have waged a determined publicity campaign in an effort to keep the probe alive and find out what happened to their daughter.

Beth Twitty has published a book about her daughter's disappearance and appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show in January in an effort to keep the search alive.


Police and even army units have combed the island looking for clues to Holloway's disappearance. The most recent search was carried out by oil drilling teams who volunteered their help. They used sonar to search the deep water off of Aruba's coast, but failed to find a trace of Natalee.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

Andrea Beaumont contributed to this report

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=4222253&page=2

[MumInOhio]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Not a movie watcher, but if your name was COLUMBO I'd say Casino!!!!

[Kermit]

Sorry to have been AWOL ... but have been very sick.

I think many things are very interesting in the reporting of new evidence from Peter De Vries.

1. The fact that the Aruban prosecutor is reopening investigation upon new evidence is big. Its even more credible as de Vries has shared the info with Beth and Beth is forwarding new info to Dave. That's much different that Mos claiming new evidence from the past.

2. The fact that De Vries had this info does explain much from the wine throwing incident. It tells me that JVDS new he was had and lashed out at De Vries because of this very info he is presenting.

3. The lack of a Joey T sighting is very telling. His mug is usually on the TV within 15 seconds proclaiming his clients innocence. His silence in this case is deafening. That means that Joey has no idea what his client has done and has no way to diffuse the bomb. He will need all day to come up with an excuse and might be on the shows tonight. His excuse will be ,,, doctored tape, illegal recording. It will not be a denial of what was actually said.

I truly hope this is the news that Beth, Dave and all of us have been looking for.

GET WELL RED.

[downloadingdaddy]

I know a lot of people are skeptical of the news from Holland today and i have to say that in the past I have been extremely skeptical but this time something feels different and IMO we will have the answers very soon. Keep the faith Monkeys!