Natalee Case Discussion #716 1/29 - 1/31/08

[Lala'sMom]

FOX NEWS...

Greta said that Beth is talking to Dave on phone from Holland.  A press release will happen within the next hour by DeVries.  According to DeVries there is some sort of tape where Joran has confessed.  Greta was urging caution in reading anything into this.  Greta says that is how it's being peddled among the people concerned. 

The office of Public Prosecutor said that based on this info it's full steam ahead. Greta says she doesn't believe this is anything new based on her experience with Hans Mos.


This is paraphrased...

[klaasend]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/31/world/main3774925.shtml

New Evidence Eyed In Natalee Holloway Case

ORANJESTAD, Aruba, Jan. 31, 2008
(AP) Aruban prosecutors said Thursday that authorities are investigating new evidence in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway provided by a Dutch crime reporter.

Information from reporter Peter R. de Vries may help resolve what happened to the American, who vanished during a May 2005 school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island, the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

The statement did not specify the new evidence.

"This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee's disappearance," the prosecutor's office said.

De Vries had a testy exchange two weeks ago during a televised interview in the Netherlands with Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who was a suspect in the case.

Van der Sloot, who was among the last people seen with the missing American, threw wine at De Vries after the reporter challenged his credibility.

Joseph Tacopina, a U.S. attorney for Van der Sloot, said it was irresponsible for prosecutors to make the announcement without describing their evidence.

"They act quite frankly like clowns," he said. "If they have a resolution, they should bring a case and stop talking about cryptic information."

Prosecutors dismissed their case against Van der Sloot and two other suspects in December, saying that they lacked evidence to charge them or even to prove a crime was committed. Authorities have said the case could be reopened if new evidence surfaces.

In the statement, prosecutors said the information from de Vries "may shed a new light on the mode" in which the American died and the "method by which her body disappeared."

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., disappeared the final night of her high school graduation trip to Aruba. She was 18 at the time.

She was last seen in public leaving a bar with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers - Deepak and Satish Kalpoe hours before she was due to board a flight home. The three men have been repeatedly detained as suspects but denied any wrongdoing.

[Lala'sMom]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Top Gun

NO

[texasmom]

Remember this is also a way to say we did not know everything.. Remember there is a Dirtyhand and there is A Dirty FBI and there is a Dirty Court House... Dirty P.M. and there is a whole lot of dirt that has to be wipe clean....


How are you going to battle this... with out revealing the Dirty hands????


it not over till .........???? to be continue...

Yes Caps......It all needs to be out in the open.....Keep working those codes.....Peter might be the man now but You are one heck of a Wizard....Thank You!  

Hi Monkey's me again!  I've NEVER done this at work but I had to come back, I forgot to thank someone!  Thank you CapsLockWizard!!!!!!  Keep up the good work, I thank God you came to us to help with this!  Thank you Mr. Red and Mrs. Red too!!!!!!  O.k.  I will not be back until after work, hopefully I will still have a job!  Pray Monkeys Pray!!!!!!!

[AZLady]

What's this mean?  I thought Beth was in Holland to meet with DeVries, not "chasing another lead."  That sounds so fruitless.  Do you think Kelly actually talked to ABC News?  Or, do you think Kelly is no longer retained by Beth?  This sounds very unlike him.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

[2NJSons_Mom]

to anyone who listened to FOX when Greta was on the phone.....my phone rang and I missed a part.. ..but I THINK I heard that MOS or PdeV would be making a statement or having apress conference  in an hour?  Did anyone hear it??

I watched it, SunnyinTX, but after reading to catch up here again, I'm not sure if I heard her say it, or if I read it.  Sorry. 

Also want to remind Thirdstrike that they are 6 or 7 hours ahead of us here on the east coast, so out west here you are, I don't think Peter's show will interrupt your watching Lost.

I thought my b-day was ordinary until I saw the thread Klaas started.  Now, seeing that Peter DeVries spoke with Mos on 1/23/08, made me feel like I may have gotten an extra gift.... (Peter's website posted by Klaas)

[ala_gunslinger]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Top Gun

NO

Independance Day

[Lala'sMom]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Not a movie watcher, but if your name was COLUMBO I'd say Casino!!!!

It was uttered by Harry Connick, Jr. in the movie.

[MumInOhio]

I know a lot of people are skeptical of the news from Holland today and i have to say that in the past I have been extremely skeptical but this time something feels different and IMO we will have the answers very soon. Keep the faith Monkeys!

Yes, I agree..this time something does feel different....

[GreatOwl]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Top Gun

NO

Independence Day

[Lala'sMom]

I wonder what Anita is doing right now?   "Please sir, could I have more towels?" 
I hope someone is watching Joran...and Deepak...and Satish...and Paulus. 

 
..."kick the tires and light the fires!"... (That's a line from a movie...any guesses?)

Top Gun

NO

Independance Day

BINGO!!! 

[klaasend]

What's this mean?  I thought Beth was in Holland to meet with DeVries, not "chasing another lead."  That sounds so fruitless.  Do you think Kelly actually talked to ABC News?  Or, do you think Kelly is no longer retained by Beth?  This sounds very unlike him.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

I think it means nothing except that JQK is playing things down for now. 

[AZLady]

What's this mean?  I thought Beth was in Holland to meet with DeVries, not "chasing another lead."  That sounds so fruitless.  Do you think Kelly actually talked to ABC News?  Or, do you think Kelly is no longer retained by Beth?  This sounds very unlike him.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

I think it means nothing except that JQK is playing things down for now. 

Okay.  I believe you.  He does prefer the understated, honest approach.  Perhaps ABC News is miffed that he wouldn't tell them anything.

[Anna]

Reporter Claims to Crack Natalee Holloway Case
Aruba Reopens Investigation Into Teen's Disappearance

By JESSICA VELMANS
January 31, 2008 10:04:28 AM PST

After a Dutch journalist declared that his private investigation had solved the mysterious disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, the chief prosecutor in Aruba announced today that he is reopening the case.

Reporter Peter R. de Vries said he used a sophisticated network of hidden cameras in what he called an "undercover operation" to obtain evidence that he claimed "has solved the mystery" of Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005.

The mystery behind the disappearance of the blond teenager has eluded efforts by the Aruba police and even the FBI for more than two years.

De Vries said he showed some of the key pieces of evidence to the Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba, Jan. 24, and the island's chief prosecutor, Hans Mos, announced today that he has "intensified [the] investigation of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information."

Mos had publicly closed the investigation last month after an exhausting and often frustrating two-year probe.


"This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared," Mos said today.

He credited de Vries with uncovering the leads and said, "This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee's disappearance."

De Vries said that he and his team had been conducting an undercover operation for several months, and that he would broadcast his findings in a special program on Dutch television this Sunday.

The only piece of the upcoming program the de Vries would release was a conversation between himself and Mos after he showed police the evidence he had collected. "Am I sitting opposite a happy man now?" de Vries asks Mos. The prosecutor is shown answering, "Now at least the truth is surfacing and with that we can at least wrap up this case."

The Alabama teenager disappeared after a boozy night in an Aruban nightclub during a high school graduation trip. She was last seen outside Carols 'n Charlies bar with Joran van der Sloot, who is from Holland, and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, from Aruba. They have twice been arrested, denied any involvement in her disappearance, and released due to lack of evidence.

After his latest release, Van der Sloot did a television interview with de Vries earlier this month where the reporter challenged his honesty. Van der Sloot was calm during the interview, but after the cameras were turned off he threw a glass of wine in de Vries' face.

The incident prompted de Vries to comment, "He doesn't have complete control over his behavior."

Holloway's parents, Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway, have waged a determined publicity campaign in an effort to keep the probe alive and find out what happened to their daughter.

Beth Twitty has published a book about her daughter's disappearance and appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show in January in an effort to keep the search alive.


Police and even army units have combed the island looking for clues to Holloway's disappearance. The most recent search was carried out by oil drilling teams who volunteered their help. They used sonar to search the deep water off of Aruba's coast, but failed to find a trace of Natalee.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

Andrea Beaumont contributed to this report

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=4222253&page=2

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Now just what does the above mean???   

[SunnyinTX]

to anyone who listened to FOX when Greta was on the phone.....my phone rang and I missed a part.. ..but I THINK I heard that MOS or PdeV would be making a statement or having apress conference  in an hour?  Did anyone hear it??

I watched it, SunnyinTX, but after reading to catch up here again, I'm not sure if I heard her say it, or if I read it.  Sorry. 

Also want to remind Thirdstrike that they are 6 or 7 hours ahead of us here on the east coast, so out west here you are, I don't think Peter's show will interrupt your watching Lost.

I thought my b-day was ordinary until I saw the thread Klaas started.  Now, seeing that Peter DeVries spoke with Mos on 1/23/08, made me feel like I may have gotten an extra gift.... (Peter's website posted by Klaas)

thanks 2NJ.....and a belated Happy birthday to you!!  I heard it...but wasn't sure if I heard it correctly and didn't hear if it was MOS or PdeV who was going to have the presser...but I think it was PdeV since MOS said he wasn't making any further statements. 

[Lala'sMom]

I think I need to lie down...tell me this is not going to happen again...surely DeVries would not do this to Beth...no way...someone take my hand.

[Observer]

Peter de Vries: Natalee Holloway Case Solved!
The dutch crimereporter Peter de Vries has announced that he has solved the Natalee Holloway case after doing a undercover camera investigation.
(Fox News Video at the site)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-FdA_70dc0

http://aruba-zone.com/content/view/478/1/

[SunnyinTX]

What's this mean?  I thought Beth was in Holland to meet with DeVries, not "chasing another lead."  That sounds so fruitless.  Do you think Kelly actually talked to ABC News?  Or, do you think Kelly is no longer retained by Beth?  This sounds very unlike him.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

I think, if he actually said these exact words, John is just being cautious....and downplaying for the moment.....not giving anything away

[klaasend]

From DeVries website index of Images for Natalee case:

[Ree]

What's this mean?  I thought Beth was in Holland to meet with DeVries, not "chasing another lead."  That sounds so fruitless.  Do you think Kelly actually talked to ABC News?  Or, do you think Kelly is no longer retained by Beth?  This sounds very unlike him.

Twitty's lawyer John Kelly told ABC News that he has little faith that the supposed new evidence will be prove pivotal to the case and suggested it will be quickly debunked. Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.

Notice they also said the Ocean search failed to turn up a body.  Is the search over?  How do you fail before your finish?  Sounds like spin or poor research to me.

I think it means nothing except that JQK is playing things down for now. 

Okay.  I believe you.  He does prefer the understated, honest approach.  Perhaps ABC News is miffed that he wouldn't tell them anything.