Natalee Case Discussion #717 1/31 - 2/01/08

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:


Joran on the phone in Pauw & Witteman: CONFESSES of Natalee dying on the beach and disposing of the body.

Geez - now this posted on the front page of SM:

Ilse wrote:

Now on Dutch TV; Joran says confession is a joke!

[Tylergal]

Remember the words of Shango, If there is a simple doubt about the case, even after he has talk, you can not convict.

He will,  make sure that after he talk, that there is a doubt.

I can bet you at this moment he is beeing prepared by The Judge.

What pseudo do you use at RU?

[Peaches]

The boat was handy...Sander admitted it was near the beach.  Where was Koen and Sander?  Were they still on the boat?  Were the parent Gottenbos out of town leaving the Sander and Koen alone?  Party time!  Just finishing a party around 4 in the morning?  How did Koen get to the boat?  Several people involved here...do we have a photo that shows the exact location of this sandbar?  Would this coincide with the witness that saw Joran swimming out with a body?  I am rambling now...sorry.

and the witness who saw the body being put in a boat and the perpetrator having sex with the person who was fighting him off and he dragged the body afterward out to the boat....

Are we all having the same creepy dream or what! 

I'm still pondering why the Kalpoe's are more talkative.

[CapsLockWizard]

A chatch 22:


haha....it can back fire....

[Lala'sMom]

Hello everyone. I am still trying to get caught up today. Is this the latest?

Joran admitted that she was sick and died on the beach?
Joran admitted that he took her beyond the sandbar and let her go?
Joran admitted that Koen assisted?

I am just trying to summize here.

Well, that looks pretty good there, Spock.  Of course, it's subject to change with Aruban winds.

[dennisintn]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:


Joran on the phone in Pauw & Witteman: CONFESSES of Natalee dying on the beach and disposing of the body.

roflmfao, sounds like euRobert finally blew a fuse at with them over there.
dennisintn

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:


Joran on the phone in Pauw & Witteman: CONFESSES of Natalee dying on the beach and disposing of the body.

Geez - now this posted on the front page of SM:

Ilse wrote:

Now on Dutch TV; Joran says confession is a joke!

EURobert wrote:


My mistake: Joran admits that he’s said he confessed to the other guy but (………………………………. suprise………………..) HE LIED TO THAT PERSON!!!

(He sounded VERY NERVOUS btw!!!)

[NM]

I have seen it posted here that Koen and Joran may be cousins.  Do we know that for a fact?  If so, does that relationship stem from Anita's family or Paul's family?

Also, were Koen's and Sander's parents off the island that night?  Both parents? 

The reason I ask is because I was thinking about Sander inviting Joran out on the boat that day.  I don't remember anyone saying whether or not his father would be on the boat as well.  Just thinking.....

If their father was not present, it may have made it easier to convince them to do a dirty deed for a cousin in need.  

Joran: Meet me out in front of the fisherman's huts. I will swim to you.
Koen: O.K. I will see you in less than five minutes.
Joran: Hurry up !!!

So why the eight minute call to Deepak?  The phone records did not show a call to Koen or Sander....or did they?   Did Deepak refuse to help Joran after Joran called and told him what was happening?

If Papa Sloot was in Aruba will the wife was away and Papa Gottenbos was in Aruba while the wife was away.....well. "Your own father" said Deepak. 

Let's not forget that casino video.  Looks like Paulus sitting there to me.

Hi Truthseeker2.  I just found this while reading sander g police statements.
sander 6/16/2005
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=305.0
On your question if I go to the movies with, I will explain to you the following:
I frequently go with Joran to the movies. My brother, Deepak, Satish and sometimes Andre generally go together themselves to the film.
Looks like koen hangs w/k2. Maybe kg had dk's phone?

The folowing have always bothered me about sander g.
sander 6/16/2005
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=305.0
On your question what name I use on the computer if I am online, I will explain to you the following:
Before Joran was apprehended, I used the nickname Sander. Now I, "Joran, nos tin bo back pa semper, ta sinti hopi malo uses pa wak con nan ta danja bo bida" (free translation statementt: Joran we have your back for always, we feel our complete to see badly how them you name for damaging to be.)

sander 6/17/2005
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=299.0
I say that I would put my hands in the fire for Joran. He would do never something like that. I would do also for Satish and Deepak, although I haven’t known them as long.



On your question if Joran walked sometimes from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels, I will explain to you the following:
Yes, Joran has walked from the "Raquet Club" to the hotels. That generally he did that on Friday. I think also that when he walks by the “Raquet Club” he also goes by McDonalds.

On your question if I you can explain which route Joran took, if he walked to the hotel, I will explain the following:
He generally walked by the area that is called the Salinja (pond).

On your question if Joran knows the aforementioned area well, I will explain to you the following:
According to him he knows the area reasonably good.

Aren't the frames from the Aru-bay vid of the bag in the drainage ditch in the salinja area?

[CapsLockWizard]

Klaasend:

For them it is a Joke...Let them continue playing the jokes...Remeber THE HOUSE will shake if  US play it right.

[Sue]

posted by holland person on BFN

news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joran was just live on the phone in P&W: he says he just told the man what he wanted to know, he lied this story, the story on the tape are not true.

[klaasend]

Posted by HannieC at RU:

Joran was on the phone in Pauw and Wittemand's show. He said it was all a joke not true and that it could easily be confirmed....

He also said it was a dumb thing to do, but he suspected there was something not right with that person because he pushed so much and Joran told him just what he wanted to hear.

That person was also according to Joran asking lots of questions to other friends of Joran.

This is to be expected, IMO

[blah]

posted by holland person on BFN

news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joran was just live on the phone in P&W: he says he just told the man what he wanted to know, he lied this story, the story on the tape are not true.

so as far as the ALE is concerned, thats good enough explanation for them

[AZSunny]

Posted by HannieC at RU:

Joran was on the phone in Pauw and Wittemand's show. He said it was all a joke not true and that it could easily be confirmed....

He also said it was a dumb thing to do, but he suspected there was something not right with that person because he pushed so much and Joran told him just what he wanted to hear.

That person was also according to Joran asking lots of questions to other friends of Joran.

This is to be expected, IMO

Yep,  CYA

[Keepthefaith]

posted by holland person on BFN

news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joran was just live on the phone in P&W: he says he just told the man what he wanted to know, he lied this story, the story on the tape are not true.

Joran doesn't know which way is up,or which way is down.He doesn't even know what is true anymore,eccept that he was involved in Natalee's death.Common sense Joran..somethin you have none of...

[blah]

this whole thing is a farce


AGAIN

[Sue]

Posted by HannieC at RU:

Joran was on the phone in Pauw and Wittemand's show. He said it was all a joke not true and that it could easily be confirmed....

He also said it was a dumb thing to do, but he suspected there was something not right with that person because he pushed so much and Joran told him just what he wanted to hear.

That person was also according to Joran asking lots of questions to other friends of Joran.

This is to be expected, IMO

he learned to spin like Taco.. BUt I bet Taco is jacking his ass BIG TIME

[Tylergal]

John Leiberman on Fox thinks all this is going someplace but then what does he know!?!  I trust JL but he probably does not know how stupid the Arubans are to destroy themselves over one sporter.

[Peaches]

Posted by HannieC at RU:

Joran was on the phone in Pauw and Wittemand's show. He said it was all a joke not true and that it could easily be confirmed....

He also said it was a dumb thing to do, but he suspected there was something not right with that person because he pushed so much and Joran told him just what he wanted to hear.

That person was also according to Joran asking lots of questions to other friends of Joran.

This is to be expected, IMO

I agree.  It's not as if JVDS is going to stand up and be a man and tell the truth.  He just can't.  Just like Scott Peterson can't.  Everything is someone else's fault. 
Just another psycho-killer in the end.

[Nut44x4]

wtf is he doing......trying to set the stage for the loony bin so he doesn't have to go to jail?

[Peaches]

wtf is he doing......trying to set the stage for the loony bin so he doesn't have to go to jail?

Would you be surprised? 

It wasn't my fault.  I'm nuts.