Natalee Case Discussion #718 2/01 - 2/02/08

[klaasend]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

[Helen Back]

FBI is not stupid

Thank you.  Wonder how many profilers will be watching the DeVries show?

[cubbeegirl]

Right now we the people are making Aruba suck wind.  They are trying to resolve this case where everyone wins.  Joran won't go to jail because they are saying it was an accident and Beth wins because she got her answers.  They will feel everything is ok now and things should go back to normal.

One small thing they forgot is that we are not stupid and we all are watching very carefully.

No one wins because Beth lost her daughter and the killer will be running free.  I don't call that justice.

Me either San...

If you are looking for "justice" as Americans perceive it -- forget about it -- it ain't happening. Am I happy about it? NO. At this point, would you be satisfied with a couple of people going to jail? Not me -- that doesn't come close to "justice" for the Hell the family has been put through. I would MUCH rather the whole island crumble into the sea from lack of tourism due to World ridicule and mockery. Bring Natalee home and let the chips fall where they ay. MOO

I like the way you guys think!!!

I agree... it is way too late for me to consider that justice.... the family has been put through a living hell that no parent should have to endure, but I still would like to see a couple of people locked up for a very long time......

[cubbeegirl]

Janet
I agree with you.  Unless there are names mentioned in that video...Joran is all that is left to deal with.  He confessed to getting rid of Natalee's body. It was Natalee that Joran says took the drugs..it was just an accident.  Without a name of the person that helped him there is nothing ALE, Mos, or even DeVries can do at this point.  Joran has been here before...just keep quiet...remember nothing...and it's over. If you were even remotely involved would you say anything now?  Not now that Joran is taking all the blame.

I know everyone is tired of me saying this so I will bow out now. I am not trying to be a damper on the enthusiasm of the moment.  I just don't trust anyone in Aruba or Hollland after what I have seen for 2 years.  The quicker they find a scapegoat and he confesses the quicker One Happy Island can get on with life.  This is all the Arubans have ever wanted...not justice...just a scapegoat.  Joran has played this beautifully.  I want to be wrong on this...I really, really do.  Oh how I want to be wrong.

If they find Natalee's body and there is evidence of a head wound that puts drugs on the back burner.  From the very beginning, in almost every early lie, Joran has mentioned that Natalee hit her head.  Why mention something like that if she died of a drug overdose?  Makes no sense.

and that's the truth.

I feel there was a head injury also... not sure exactly how it happened, although in my mind I have come up with a few different scenarios, none of them pleasant. From the very beginning they have said that Natalee hit her head.... I have to question if she fell and hit her head or did she hit her head due to Joran loosing his temper and hitting her?????
I just feel that the reason for them saying she hit her head was CYA in case she was ever found....JMO

On Monday night/early Tuesday morning these guys were saying that Natalee fell and hit her head.  Why?  This is what makes me believe there was a chance that her body could be found at that time.  They needed to have an explanation that did not implicate wrongdoing on their part.  Why else would they be saying something like that?  If she had already been disposed of at sea they would not need to say anything about her physical condition.

Exactly!

[Observer]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Why would they wait until after the show airs? They have had the tapes for a week now. De Vries says he solved the case,Beth says she can finally Mourn and Mos says he requested his arrest on thursday or friday..What are they waiting for? Why wasn't he arrested a week ago?

[truthseeker2]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

I thought Mos was given a copy of the tape by DeVries?  If so, they should already know what is on it.

[jackb]

Any thoughts on what the Kalpoes are up to here lately??

Working on their lawsuit with Dr. Phil.  Seems Joran has handed them compensation on a platter with all this confessing.  Maybe they will open a line of internet cafes across the Caribbean.

They are not home free.  They got their part before they left, if they left at all.  They are knee deep into this and know what happened.  They will NOT reap a penny.  They lied to cover for themselves as Joran would not let anyone know that was not a part of it, most likely.  At least until he figured he was beyond prosecution and bragged such as he has been doing.  Those Kalpoes have no sense of justice or feelings for NH any more that does Joran.  Look at the lies they told about her.  They are the ones who should be sued.        Jack b

[Helen Back]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

It does seem as if "Judge" Rick Smid is waiting to watch DeVries to see how much damage the Sporter did?  Gotta know what he said before they know how to handle the damage.

[crazybabyborg]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:


Just in the Dutch RTL4 news: Joran is in hiding because he recieved a LOT of threats for example on his hyves.nl page (of which I don’t have the precise adress now; maybe later).


Feb 2, 3:00 PM

Well at least we won't be accused of threatening him.  Appropriate that his own countrymen handle this for us.

I don't think that the Sloots are going to be winning any popularity contests on Aruba either. Renho and her paper aren't in line for Miss Congeniality either. Her stance on this case is going to look ridiculous very shortly, IMO. I'm putting a lot of stock in Joran's demeanor coming through on that tape, and the average Aruban won't miss it while they watch the show. If they NEVER do anything legally to Joran, he has convicted himself on the tapes, IMO.

He's convicted himself of bringing econimic ruin to the people of Aruba, if nothing else, and I doubt that they will forget what they are about to see. Beth, unknowingly, put it into words for them and gave voice to what they will know: Look what they've done..................

[Nut44x4]

Cohen: Tourism has not suffered one bit on our "Happy Island."
Oduber: Take off your black hat, Croes, you look like Abraham Lincoln on crack.
Jacobs: Pass me the Corn Flakes.
Paulus: Anyone hot in here, I'm sweating my ass off. Pass the Kleenex.
Anita: I told you to dress light, look at my see-through blouse.
VanderStraaten: I am taking a vacation and may even retire.
Jansen: No comment. I will not speak to anyone.
Julia Renfro: Be quiet everyone. Hootie and the Blowfish is on the radio.
Koen G: I'm getting scared - I want my mommy and daddy!!
Nadira: Calm down. Even big people lie every now and then.
Arlene: This is the beauty of a unique legal system.
Croes: That's right. Everything can be fixed in Aruba.
Lacle: Start calling me "Tickle Me, Tito" from now on.
Trappenburg: Isn't there a rave party toight. I read it on MySpace.
Deepak: Just make sure my car doesn't get dirty.
Sander: Has anyone seen my long lost cell phone?
Satish: Leave me out of this - I am trying to sleep.
Joran: Lies. Lies. Lies.
Freddy: I am going to tell the truth !!!

OMG THIS IS PRICELESS!!!!!! LMAO!!! 

[Helen Back]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

I thought Mos was given a copy of the tape by DeVries?  If so, they should already know what is on it.

If DeVries is as smart as I think he is, he just game them a preview.

[Kat_Gram]

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes
Like I said, how high is the pile now ?
Do we HAVE to arrest him ?
Prosecution office waits for a TV show to air before deciding whether a suspect can be charged or detained. Mr. Mos saw the tapes.
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Are they waiting for Peter to get a law degree and do that one for them too? 
..
I should go, I am too angry at this crap.

[San]

FBI is not stupid

Exactly.

[klaasend]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

I thought Mos was given a copy of the tape by DeVries?  If so, they should already know what is on it.

Maybe DeVries only gave them part of what he has?  I really don't know.

[truthseeker2]

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

It does seem as if "Judge" Rick Smid is waiting to watch DeVries to see how much damage the Sporter did?  Gotta know what he said before they know how to handle the damage.

Once again the wheels of justice are getting bogged down in the sand of Aruba.

[memphis]

Janet
I agree with you.  Unless there are names mentioned in that video...Joran is all that is left to deal with.  He confessed to getting rid of Natalee's body. It was Natalee that Joran says took the drugs..it was just an accident.  Without a name of the person that helped him there is nothing ALE, Mos, or even DeVries can do at this point.  Joran has been here before...just keep quiet...remember nothing...and it's over. If you were even remotely involved would you say anything now?  Not now that Joran is taking all the blame.

I know everyone is tired of me saying this so I will bow out now. I am not trying to be a damper on the enthusiasm of the moment.  I just don't trust anyone in Aruba or Hollland after what I have seen for 2 years.  The quicker they find a scapegoat and he confesses the quicker One Happy Island can get on with life.  This is all the Arubans have ever wanted...not justice...just a scapegoat.  Joran has played this beautifully.  I want to be wrong on this...I really, really do.  Oh how I want to be wrong.

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I agree with you that every single one of them will get off scott-free. I'm saying "so what". The Court of Public opinion is all that really matters.
Nothing can repair how the World views them. That is justice enough for now -- Karma will eventually punish everyone involved.

Wreck, I love the way you say things!
That's exactly what I think. I was just going to add that, "Vengeance is mine, says the Lord."

[Nut44x4]

Lmao...that is ridiculous...they already have the tape.

lmffao....police have to wait for a tv crime show to air before they decide.......HAHAAAAAAAAA.....omg, this is just unreal.

[Observer]

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

HUH?? That doesnt make any sense at all. It has already been reported Mos requested that Joran be arrested and De Vries shared with him the tapes a week ago. This is really getting lame!!!!!!!!
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Source: Prosecutor seeks arrest in Holloway case
(CNN) -- Aruba's chief public prosecutor has requested that a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case be arrested for a third time based on new evidence, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN.Hans Mos expects to hear a ruling from a judge as soon as Saturday or Sunday on the request regarding Joran van der Sloot, the source said.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/01/aruba.holloway/index.html

[San]

SUNDAY I'LL BE WATCHING PATRIOTS VS GIANTS SUPERBOWL PARTY

THEN JORAN'S ARREST AFTER THE DEVRIES SHOW

JORAN: PAPA can you help me!

PAPA: CROAK!

Posted on the front page of SM:

arievdberg wrote:

Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

Also on the front page here:

http://www.ad.nl/

I thought the prosecutor saw the tape already?

[crazybabyborg]

I may be giving too much credit to the average Aruban, but I don't think so. I honestly think that when they see Beth's reaction contrasted to what they'll hear Joran admit, there will be compassion for her. I really do.

I think the animosity will be there for those in the public eye that have villanized her. RENHO ALERT! Maybe the Sloots and Renho can exile to a duplex in a newly developed leper colony.