Posted by Heli at RU (still hope Carpe was able to tape it..I want to hear JoeT blowing a gasket 
) :Geraldo At Large
February 2, 2008
Geraldo:
What became of Natalee and who's responsible? This extremely shocking program will be world news after the SBS6 broadcast on Sunday.
"Make sure you're an eyewitness to the most revealing report I have ever made", so says Dutch reporter Peter de Vries/
Hi everybody, I'm Geraldo Rivera and Joran van der Sloot, the young dutchmen long suspected in the disappearance on the island of Aruba of Natalee Holloway, on Friday admitted that he did tell an undercover reporter that he was involved in Natalee's death.
"It is true I told someone" Joran admitted to a Dutch interviewer. That someone we think is a young man Joran met in a casino and befriended. The friend was actually working undercover for Dutch reporter Peter de Vries and for several months secretly taped van der Sloot according to my source very close to Beth Holloway who has seen the tape.
(plays tape of Beth wringing her hands)
"Look what they've done to Natalee, look what they've done to a country, look what they've done to, to
de Vries: to you?
"Look what they've done"
de Vries: She is somehow relieved because, well she was asking herself for almost 3 years now what happened to her daughter, now she's got the answers.
Geraldo:
"Everybody will see in Sunday" Joran admitted in an interview Friday night. Essentially the undercover tape shows Joran telling this kid he thought was friend that in the midst of sexual intimacy, whether literally in the act or not is unclear, Natalee had either a seizure or a heart attack and ultimately stopped breathing which may confirm various reports that the inexperienced Alabama teenager died on the beach of a drug overdose.
According to my source, Joran then frantically disposes of Natalee's body, wading with it into the water as far as he could go and letting it drift away, presumably sinking. And in the days and weeks (inaudible) before a proper search was mounted the body was carried out of the harbour by the hotels and into the caribbean sea.
Because Aruba is a one party consent jurisdiction, the tape was legally made and presumably would be admissable but what about corroborating evidence. I also spoke with Dave Holloway, Natalee's father who has not seen the tape and was not the source of this report. Dave told me that although he's been told the tape finally nails Joran, he wants to hold tight before celebrating because he's been burned so badly in the past.
Dave said he was convinced the last time around they had the evidence they needed, only to be disappointed. Dave told me he's keeping his guard up real high but Natalee's mother Beth is convinced the tape proves Joran's involvement. Beth telling the Associated Press "I can let her go now and begin mourning. The one percent of hope I had that Natalee was still alive is gone"
So although he admits making the damning statements that were caught on tape, Joran, his voice cracking, now claims he was only lying to the undercover reporter and still denies having anything to do with Natalee's disappearance. The tape airs tomorrow night at 3:15 pm eastern time.
I'm joined on the phone now by Joran's attorney, Joe Tacopina and by Fox News analyst, Detective Mark Fuhrman and here on the set by the host of the Lineup, Kimberly Guilfoyle and by Fox News analyst and former Prosecutor, Janine Piro.
Joe, you first. It sounds like not only do they have your client on tape but it admits making the statements.
Joe:
Well Geraldo, he admits making certain statements. Certainly not all the statements I've heard over the last 24 hours about supposedly what's going to nail him and not nail him and so on and so forth, but let me just backtrack for a second and say this:
We have not heard this tape yet. Before we get to the point where we've already figured out the case is solved, we've been down this road before, let's let this thing air and play out.
Let me say this to you and this is a very important fact Geraldo and you know I'm on with you and as sharp as you are, I know you're not in Joran's camp and I have Kimberley, Mark and Janine. I have two prosecutors and a detective and little old me so I'm going to try to hold my own here but let me just say this:
This prosecutor in Aruba, Hans Mos who I've met with and spoken with had this tape for over a week. Joran van der Sloot is at liberty and has not been arrested because of this evidence. This prosecutor has arrested Joran on absolutely no evidence in this case. The information that's gathered from this tape is absolutely disprovable as a cause (1) of Natalee's death and (2) more formally as to what happened. So certainly the prosecution is going to try and do something with this but he hasn't been able to act on the tape to put Joran back in prison and we know it's a very different standard.
Geraldo:
I hear you Joe. Mark Fuhrman, is the prosecutor just waiting until Monday, I mean today is Saturday.
Fuhrman:
Geraldo, let's give Joe the benefit of the doubt here. What he's saying is probably true but you're probably not going to rush out there the third time around without verifying, make sure you've got a voiceprint that matches, nothing's been dubbed, verify there's not been anything edited in the video or the audio, nothing else, that might take longer than a week, might take longer than 2 weeks.
That being said and Joe said something about he doesn't admit to all the statements. There's only one we care about and that's as to the death of Natalee Holloway and anything else we really don't care about. If that's there and there's 1,000 other things he doesn't admit to, what he did specifically he was asked, 'did you make that statement' ' No, I was lying' so let me tell you this Geraldo: the only time a suspect in an interrogation, when they know they're talking to the cops make a statement to take the blame is to protect a suspect they're afraid of, a co-suspect or to protect a loved one. They don't lie and admit to the crime for the sake
Joe:
Mark, Mark that's not true, Mark look there's a real phenomenon called false confession and I'm not saying that that applies here, let's not say that that's the only time
Geraldo:
Joe, Joe
Kimberley: Ha ha
Janine: Ha ha ha
Kimberley:
Joe, your client is one of the sharpest guys I've ever come across that's had the term a suspect in a case, he's no joke, he's no slouch, he's highly intelligent. What would possess him to make a statement that's 100% against his interest and confess to a crime of this magnitude if he had absolutely nothing to do with it?
Joe:
Is that a question for me?
Kimberley:
That's a question
Geraldo:
Let the Judge ask you another question then you can give me a compound answer Joe, go ahead.
Janine:
You know what Joe, the truth is that he wasn't being interrogated at the time, he was totally off his guard, it's not unlike defendants to slip and that's why you're able to prove cold cases years later. Everybody talks sooner or later and the fact that he says that he was lying validates the authenticity of the tapes.
They can splice it, they can see if it's been doctored, they can try to authenticate it. The fact he says it's a lie proves that he said it and the fact he goes right to the heart of the issue when he's not under interrogation, when his guard is down is devastating to you.
Joe:
Can I get my compound answer in now? First of all we don't even know what the tape says or what he's admitting to. Let's let it play out, I'll talk to any one of you on Monday again #1. #2 before we go and say this is proof positive he was involved, there is absolute, based on the stories we've heard, absolutely refutable evidence as to a boat being involved and an individual being involved. The prosecutor knows that and that's why they haven't acted on it, that's #1
#2 If you want to (inaudible) what he's saying, what he's saying is she died of her own, you know, accidental
Geraldo:
Unless he gave her the drugs
Joe:
seizure because of drugs. He gave her the drugs? Who said that?
Geraldo:
He obstructed justice, he disposed of the body and he inflicted untold cruelty on this poor woman's parents, he jerked us all around for 2 years
Joe:
Don't mix and match issues, is he admitting to guilt or is he admitting to being cruel. They're very distinctly different issues. Let's do this, let's wait for the tapes to come out and then let's talk
Geraldo:
Quickly, Mark
Mark:
Geraldo, that's great if he says she died on her own because of some kind of medical condition or an overdose, the problem is because of his actions you can't prove this was in his hands or not, so it's too bad now, you've got to take it on the chin, you want to admit to somebody you think you can trust and you can't because they're an undercover reporter, that's the way it goes.
Geraldo:
Gentlemen, thank you.
