Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02 - 2/03/08

[Kat_Gram]

So, I just had to go over to RU. The Greta email thing she posted :
Some are surprised.
Greta went to NL, Beth was in NL. Nothing that Greta spoke to Beth.
They suspect that Greta is pizzed for being snubbed by Beth.
??
Could be, she sure turned into a two faced B real quick didn't she ?
Maybe DeVries gave her the same snub ?

[Lala'sMom]

But what about the Kalpoes?  They have been through all this mess for Joran?  They lied because they did nothing but drop Joran and Natalee off a the beach?  They washed their car at 3 in the morning because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  They text messaged and emailed people to establish an alibi for that night because they dropped Natalee and Joran off at the beach and left?  Deepak called a girl for an alibi because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  What about the Kalpoes? 

[islanders]

I don't think Paulus knew about this until after the body was taken out to sea and dumped, and maybe not until Beth confronted Joran.

It's bad enough the scumm bag lied to police and everyone.

[Kat_Gram]

Is there such a thing as Premeditated rape ? In the NL ?

[Dayhiker]

I think he has told the truth about Natalee being dead, but even to a "close friend" he will not tell the whole truth because the whole truth would show him to be the monster he is, not the kind compassionate lover he wants to be to his many admirers in the rowhouses of a noveau chic gay neighborhood.

No, he'd never admit he had to drug a girl to have sex with her even though he did. It was mentioned early on when this tape surfaced that he is very disrespectful to Natalee on the tape. That ain't gonna play well here, there or anywhere.

[Tylergal]

"In the days and weeks following, the body was moved"

That's what Geraldo said.

That's what I just heard.  That means those involved in this coverup were constantly working to cover up and constantly moving her body around.  "days and weeks"....

[crazybabyborg]

You know, it's really something and a blazing flare that Taco's reduced to making the argument on behalf of Joran by saying, "Wait! Did he confess to murdering her, or confess to being cruel!"

Taco caved in on the point that he's involved, either way.

Whoa............. 

[Dayhiker]

So, I just had to go over to RU. The Greta email thing she posted :
Some are surprised.
Greta went to NL, Beth was in NL. Nothing that Greta spoke to Beth.
They suspect that Greta is pizzed for being snubbed by Beth.
??
Could be, she sure turned into a two faced B real quick didn't she ?
Maybe DeVries gave her the same snub ?

Her stock has dropped considerably. All she had to do was keep her trap shut and never endorse the terd. She deserves to be snubbed and have her nose rubbed in it and is getting a good dose of what people think of her over at gretasucks.com.

[crazybabyborg]

You know, it's really something and a blazing flare that Taco's reduced to making the argument on behalf of Joran by saying, "Wait! Did he confess to murdering her, or confess to being cruel!"

Taco caved in on the point that he's involved, either way.

Whoa............. 

Should have added that was in response to Joran's scenario that she died and he panicked and took her body out to sea.

[Tylergal]

I have said in the past we need to get in touch with Fox to get them to replace Gertie with Jeanine P.

[hotping]

You know, it's really something and a blazing flare that Taco's reduced to making the argument on behalf of Joran by saying, "Wait! Did he confess to murdering her, or confess to being cruel!"

Taco caved in on the point that he's involved, either way.

Whoa............. 

Yes He did Cave and Did You notice no mention of .....Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's Disappearance or what ever it is Taco usually says. 

[Tylergal]

But what about the Kalpoes?  They have been through all this mess for Joran?  They lied because they did nothing but drop Joran and Natalee off a the beach?  They washed their car at 3 in the morning because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  They text messaged and emailed people to establish an alibi for that night because they dropped Natalee and Joran off at the beach and left?  Deepak called a girl for an alibi because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  What about the Kalpoes? 

"Look what they've done to Natalee... look what they've done..."  NOT "what he's done.."

[crazybabyborg]

You know, it's really something and a blazing flare that Taco's reduced to making the argument on behalf of Joran by saying, "Wait! Did he confess to murdering her, or confess to being cruel!"

Taco caved in on the point that he's involved, either way.

Whoa............. 

Yes He did Cave and Did You notice no mention of .....Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's Disappearance or what ever it is Taco usually says. 

Yes, hotping. That was as big as a black hole, wasn't it? 
This is big, monkeys. No matter what happens, this is a big development. Joran on tape, with the world as a witness saying that Natalee Holloway died in his presence and that he got rid of her body as evidence after 2 1/2 years of denying he had any knowledge of what happened to her is BIG!

[islanders]

Anyway, I'm thinking he walked her out, and she washed back up on the beach. He returned with friends and then disposed of the body.

I guess we will learn more tomorrow.

Any thoughts?

[Lala'sMom]

"In the days and weeks following, the body was moved"

That's what Geraldo said.

That's what I just heard.  That means those involved in this coverup were constantly working to cover up and constantly moving her body around.  "days and weeks"....

Don't tell me Shango was actually right for once...no way!  Bifrons!

[Tylergal]

Anyway, I'm thinking he walked her out, and she washed back up on the beach. He returned with friends and then disposed of the body.

I guess we will learn more tomorrow.

Any thoughts?

In one of his earlier statements and there is always a bit of truth in each one, "I picked her up..."

[hotping]

You know, it's really something and a blazing flare that Taco's reduced to making the argument on behalf of Joran by saying, "Wait! Did he confess to murdering her, or confess to being cruel!"

Taco caved in on the point that he's involved, either way.

Whoa............. 

Yes He did Cave and Did You notice no mention of .....Joran had nothing to do with Natalee's Disappearance or what ever it is Taco usually says. 

Yes, hotping. That was as big as a black hole, wasn't it? 
This is big, monkeys. No matter what happens, this is a big development. Joran on tape, with the world as a witness saying that Natalee Holloway died in his presence and that he got rid of her body as evidence after 2 1/2 years of denying he had any knowledge of what happened to her is BIG!

Its Huge...I hope there will be someway to watch it....does anyone know how to do that or will We have to wait for a Youtube or something..... 

[crazybabyborg]

But what about the Kalpoes?  They have been through all this mess for Joran?  They lied because they did nothing but drop Joran and Natalee off a the beach?  They washed their car at 3 in the morning because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  They text messaged and emailed people to establish an alibi for that night because they dropped Natalee and Joran off at the beach and left?  Deepak called a girl for an alibi because they dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach?  What about the Kalpoes? 

"Look what they've done to Natalee... look what they've done..."  NOT "what he's done.."

Right, Tyler. Long ago, when you and I worked on the police tape recording, we both wondered how much K2 really knew and what the extent of their involvement was. For sure, they have a LOT of knowledge of events as things have played out and certainly they know of Paulus' role in constructing a cover-up. Their silence to that knowledge, if nothing else, makes them guilty. I'm waiting to hear Beth's take; anxiously!

[Bearlyhere]

My earnest prayers for the success of the Persistence Mission! I do hope that something in the latest events can help them! God Bless them for their efforts! There is new hope/belief that she was indeed placed in the water. If so, they are looking in the right place.

Because the beauty of your avatars is only surpassed by the beauty in your posts, I am going to tag along with your post.  My prayers are also with them and I ask God to guide them to the place they need to be at the time that will help the most.  I know things are in God's time and not mine  But I also know God made me human and understands my impatience.

[Tylergal]

The dismissal by Mos a few weeks ago, was that he needed verification from the authorities in the NL that this tape/video/whatever he has, had not been "dinked" with and that Peter de Vries and Mos had to have it certified by some agency similar to the FBI or other, before it could be used as evidence ....