Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02 - 2/03/08

[MumInOhio]

I have two questions.

1. When did Hans Mos come into the picture?

2. When was this tape of Joran made?

IIRC March 2007 and in the last 6 or 7 months

[robots]

heavy battery

hmmmmmmmmmm 

[casa]

Good morning Monkeys!  Does anyone know what time the program will be on as per central time?  I'm thinking like around 1 or 2 central but not sure. Sorry if this has been answered I just got back on the computer from last night and am way behind reading!  Thanks!

I believe it's either 2 or 2:30pm central time.

Thanks Klaas! 

casa, my son just told me tht it is 2:30 central time.... that is after looking at the 12:30PST and 3:30 EST that I showed him.... he rolled his eyes again that I never can figure it out....
It is a joke around here as his best friends girlfriend did not believe that there were different time zones... poor girl 16 yrs old and thinks the whole world is on the same time 

Thanks a lot cubbee!  I'm not good at figuring out the time in other countries.  I'm pretty good with the US time zones but don't put me out of the country cause I'm lost!  Thank your son for me too!!

[Peaches]

Buckeye - I'll tell Red to do that

Your latest You Tube effort is FABULOUS!  Definately Front Page material. 

No use hiding your light under a bushel. 

Let everyone enjoy that one!

[klaasend]

Peaches - thanks.  Red asked me to put that together yesterday

[San]

Steve Croes was fired from the Tattoo and given a bigger, better job as DJ where?  The den of iniquity...so he can keep targeting young unsuspecting females. Pay me enough and continue to pay me and I will keep quiet...I bet if he is named in all this...he sings faster than Taco can spin...SWEAT ALERT!! MOO

They will not put one finger on Steve Croes.  Steve Croes will deny everything.  They need proof that he was involved and by proof I mean other witnesses coming forward.  All he has to do is say I have no idea what Joran is saying.  I don't even know him.  Joran is a pathological liar and he says it himself.

[Faith and Persistence]

who is chugging more alcohol right now

1. joran
2. anita
3. paulus
4. joe t.


I would have to say the DELICIOUS SPORTER is drinking it by the YARD

anita is second

joe t is third

and paulus is out looking for more young women to rape and kill


PAULUS IS the ONE......the mastermind behind the whole nightmare

where is he ??

Robots.... we have been on the same page for years

mmmmmm good !!!!
yep - he is the one
and i always knew it

PURE EVIL

Daddy picks em, Joran reels em in.

I want to see is a different angle of the casino video

There is way more to this than Sportster claims in his "confession"

sacrificial lamb... keep the higher ups out of it

Can't wait for tonight

[Peaches]

Peaches - thanks.  Red asked me to put that together yesterday

Worth the wait.

Worth watching more than once. 

In between the Taco meltdown video.  "Who said that!  Who said that!"   

[Kat_Gram]

I am going from memory here, but isn't the Tattoo moored and a smaller boat is used to take partiers to it. ? After Steve inserted himself into this by providing the false alibi, didn't the ALE look at the smaller boat ?
If the Radar showed the smaller boat coming and going, as long as it didn't go out too far, nothing would seem unusual.
Didn't I see a mapping of sorts of how deep the water got right east of the sandbar ?
..
I need to see sweaty running man go down for this too. We all know he is in it right to his neck.
..
Who was Steve's alibi for the Sunday late evening into Monday ?
 

[cubbeegirl]

I put together a new Joran Liar video last night for Youtube.  Red will be posting on the front page of SM some time today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUZRVV1klek

Perfect

 

klaas, those are priceless!!!

[cubbeegirl]

Good morning Monkeys!  Does anyone know what time the program will be on as per central time?  I'm thinking like around 1 or 2 central but not sure. Sorry if this has been answered I just got back on the computer from last night and am way behind reading!  Thanks!

I believe it's either 2 or 2:30pm central time.

Thanks Klaas! 

casa, my son just told me tht it is 2:30 central time.... that is after looking at the 12:30PST and 3:30 EST that I showed him.... he rolled his eyes again that I never can figure it out....
It is a joke around here as his best friends girlfriend did not believe that there were different time zones... poor girl 16 yrs old and thinks the whole world is on the same time 

Thanks a lot cubbee!  I'm not good at figuring out the time in other countries.  I'm pretty good with the US time zones but don't put me out of the country cause I'm lost!  Thank your son for me too!!

LOL.... I am lost with it to casa, and my son just can't fathom that it boggles my mind.... I will thank him for both of us...
At least we know there are more than one time zone LOL

[MumInOhio]

I am going from memory here, but isn't the Tattoo moored and a smaller boat is used to take partiers to it. ? After Steve inserted himself into this by providing the false alibi, didn't the ALE look at the smaller boat ?
If the Radar showed the smaller boat coming and going, as long as it didn't go out too far, nothing would seem unusual.
Didn't I see a mapping of sorts of how deep the water got right east of the sandbar ?
..
I need to see sweaty running man go down for this too. We all know he is in it right to his neck.
..
Who was Steve's alibi for the Sunday late evening into Monday ?
 

I read it was the 'Tattoo's' security tapes.....

[Spock]

Steve Croes and the boat fits what we have heard before. He gave the false alibi and said "it was to someone he did not know and had never met". He reportedly told his grandmother he was on the beach that night and observed a fight between three boys and a girl. he was fired from his job watching the tatoo that night for leaving the boat moored off of marriot Beach. We will have to wait and see if he is the one mentioned by Joran.

The connection to Steve Croes runs trough Deepak. It could be Deepak contacted Croes and had him move the boat to a waiting Joran who swam the body out to the boat.

During the eight minute phone call, while Juron was on hold??

"Jackpot"

"You would be surprised how simple it was that night"

That part has always stuck in my mind for some reason.... "You would be surprised how simple it was that night"

Yes, and that statement, implies there was a "plan" that night, that was simple to execute.

[cubbeegirl]

Steve Croes and the boat fits what we have heard before. He gave the false alibi and said "it was to someone he did not know and had never met". He reportedly told his grandmother he was on the beach that night and observed a fight between three boys and a girl. he was fired from his job watching the tatoo that night for leaving the boat moored off of marriot Beach. We will have to wait and see if he is the one mentioned by Joran.

The connection to Steve Croes runs trough Deepak. It could be Deepak contacted Croes and had him move the boat to a waiting Joran who swam the body out to the boat.

During the eight minute phone call, while Juron was on hold??

"Jackpot"

"You would be surprised how simple it was that night"

That part has always stuck in my mind for some reason.... "You would be surprised how simple it was that night"

Yes, and that statement, implies there was a "plan" that night, that was simple to execute.

I agree...

[robots]

who is chugging more alcohol right now

1. joran
2. anita
3. paulus
4. joe t.


I would have to say the DELICIOUS SPORTER is drinking it by the YARD

anita is second

joe t is third

and paulus is out looking for more young women to rape and kill


PAULUS IS the ONE......the mastermind behind the whole nightmare

where is he ??

Robots.... we have been on the same page for years

mmmmmm good !!!!
yep - he is the one
and i always knew it

PURE EVIL

Daddy picks em, Joran reels em in.

I want to see is a different angle of the casino video

There is way more to this than Sportster claims in his "confession"

sacrificial lamb... keep the higher ups out of it

Can't wait for tonight

yep, because the odds are a zillion to one that paulus and joran and Natalee at casino table the same night and then all this BS happens

coincidence ???

nawwwwwwwww...paulus is the one

and i go back to what i have said several times,

the punks video tape it, the old men watch it and this is why it was covered up


burn in hell, all of them

 

[Bearlyhere]

I put together a new Joran Liar video last night for Youtube.  Red will be posting on the front page of SM some time today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUZRVV1klek

Everyone ignores me, lol    I think you'll like the end of this video.

Klaas

I answered and want you to post the Paulus memory video with it.

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiVKwLpsza0

I wonder if memory probems run in the family and that is why Joran has to lie so much.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Morning Monkeys! I've got to go back and catch up.............I got all caught up in Greta's blog last night and argued with CheriMc until 4:00am.............what a dumbass! Her AND me for engaging in it!

Just one question before I go back? Do we know what was said on the show yet?

LOLOLOL! CBB,CheriMc is also known as freebeesite aka queenfreebee,a well known Beth and Natalee basher from the very beginning of this case.She is also well known for ripping people off(for pennies!)on her freebie site.She also gets paid to post her garbage,the more garbage she posts,the more money she makes.She is also so full of the worst kind of caca.

[Tylergal]

Can someone tell me how many times Julia Renfro has been married, how many children she has and if she has indicated who their fathers might be, if she knows even.

Well, if you remember the night her camera wasn't working...LOL...she told me that she had gone by the police station with her husband and 3 children, which were sitting in the car, before going to her MIL house for lunch.  there she was the famous dossier she referred to all the time. 

Yes, I do recall that and one reason I asked as I thought at one time she had told us she had 4 children.  Now I am really confused. I hear they are a raucous bunch as well.  I would like to know who their fathers are.  Her saying she has a husband is like Joran saying he has never told a lie.

[Helen Back]

Hey Klaas,

You've got mail.

Thanks!

[Lala'sMom]

Steve Croes was fired from the Tattoo and given a bigger, better job as DJ where?  The den of iniquity...so he can keep targeting young unsuspecting females. Pay me enough and continue to pay me and I will keep quiet...I bet if he is named in all this...he sings faster than Taco can spin...SWEAT ALERT!! MOO

They will not put one finger on Steve Croes.  Steve Croes will deny everything.  They need proof that he was involved and by proof I mean other witnesses coming forward.  All he has to do is say I have no idea what Joran is saying.  I don't even know him.  Joran is a pathological liar and he says it himself.

San
You know I agree with you...it won't go anywhere.  Steve Croes is in this too deep, if it is him, because of everything he's done before and since too.  Joran confesses and it all goes away...I still think that will be the outcome.  Maybe Mos has been looking for that loose end...Steve Croes.  I don't think for  one minute that any pressure will come to bear on him in all this.  Paulus still has the key to the skeleton closet and I am certain he's not afraid to use it.