Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -

[martini]

J said he lied to his new found friend who he told almost the whole truth but he could not tell him the real name of the friend he owes his life to. The friend with the boat, he has known a long time. Everyone has nicknames, he gave him a nickname "DAURY". It is SC in MHO

[klaasend]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well it shouldn't be too much trouble for the police to find his shoes in the manhole along the road.

[SunnyinTX]

The babylonians (MIU) knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks ,(Aruba Law Enforccement)

not trying to be rude...but would you mind holding off on this stuff until after the show

[Observer]

Nice story but 90% of it was BS! Hopefully this leads to the real truth!

[Sue]

Yes right here im sure




washed out of drain after much heavy rains after nat went missing

[klaasend]

From RU:

P: how did you know if she was dead? wasnt she in a coma?

J: I didnt know.

P: did you feel her'?

J; no, but it didnt look good...

Joran: I wasnt sure she was dead. She just didnt do anything while Daury was there...
 
Joran talks about the picking up-story by Deepak and Satish: what else should I have said?

P: walking to the hotel while you hyad a cellphone, that rescued you...

J: Yeah it did... *evil grin*
 
Natalee Holloway Update 27; Joran might still be lying according to de Vries. He will not investigate"Daury" to not ruin the police's chances
Joran is being pretty disingeneous in his confessions, dancing around the details of his accomplice, or accomplices. De Vries thinks he's holding back even more. Commercials now, final revelation coming up. Beth Twitty's reaction.

The times Joran mentions to walk home arent correct, according to PRDV. Did he just make a mistake, or is he trying to protect someone else?

Jorans story about the little boats is correct. According to PRDV Jorans story as told to Patrick seems to be correct.

A sort of reenactment of that night is shown in black and white...
 
PRDV shows the footage to MOS. This is the interview that vkmag.com has leaked (I think).

Mos is going to investigate the case. This is indeed the leaked interview...

End of interview with Mos... PRDV talks about Beth...

He makes the call in which he invites her to come

31 january: beth arrives at schiphol.

Beth watched the show...

Beth looks shocked watching the show
 
Note from Pronkjewail (this is the RU poster that is translating); For the first time I sincerely feel sorry for Beth. She looks devastated.
 
Conversation between Beth and PRDV...talking about the fact Joran didnt even know for sure she was dead.

More on the above:
 
SUNDAY, 3 FEBRUARY 2008

Natalee Holloway Update 28; Final Questions answered, why did he lie? Beth twitty distressed.
More live translation and summary.

"How did you know she was dead?"
" She didn't move anymore..."
"And Daury, did he check?"
"Yeah, he stood over her and looked at her?"
"That's it? What if she was in coma?"
"Uh...I don't know."
"Why did you say they(The kalpoes) picked you up?"
"Misinformation."

They are laughing about Deepak and Satish for being duped. "Idiots, losers."
De Vries believes that since he wasn't picked up by Deepak or Satish, he might have been picked up by someone else...
De Vries is at the actual location where Natalee died, not where he said she died. In his statements he always picked a spot a few hundred feet to the left. The payphone he used to call "Daury" is only a few feet away..
There is a kind of lurid black and white reconstruction going on now.

Paul has denied by mail he gave Joran a cellphone in jail.

End of show.

[robots]

joran is crazy

just like deepak and satish said

[Observer]

Sunday, 3 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 30 Breaking News, Daury found, claims Joran lied...Joran in hiding, possibly already found..

Whatnow, who commented on a previous post, gave this link, in dutch about The "Daury" Joran mentions. He claims to have been in Holland at the time of Natalee's diappearance. The school where he studied confirms this.
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Natalee Holloway Update 29 De Vries presents the evidence to Hans Mos, the main prosecutor, he is impressed.

The conversation that was on De Vries' website earlier is playing now. Hans Mos is surprised at his gall, and at the way he 'duped' Deepak and Satish. They are also talking about his lack of respect for Natalee, and women in general. Hans Mos says they are reopening the case in the light of this evidence. 'Joran is intelligent, so I don't think he's lying her."

The reason the case hasn't materialised before, is really a lack of physical evidence, no body only testimonies by liars.

Beth Twitty is invited by Peter R. De Vries to come to Holland. They're showing her arriving in Holland now. Seated in Peter's office they are showing her subtitled footage. She's obviously upset when she hears Joran talk about her daughter, especially the sexstuff. And she is crying when he talks about not feeling guilty.

"You've got it all...That son of a bitch."
"He doesn't seem to care for anything but himself, he wants to profit from it."
"He doesn't even care, he didn't even know if she was dead. They could have..dumped her alive."

She goes on...

"No remorse, no guilt. I always thought his life was already a living hell, but it's about to begin..it's about to begin. Look what they've done to Natalee, what they've done too a country..."
"To you..."
"To Natalee..That son of a bitch..they just disposed of her body... He knew who to call in this situation... how many others were there?"
"Is this enough?"
"This has to be it...(crying) When I first got to Aruba, I couldn't look at the ocean, I didn't know why....I know why now,"

Peter R. De Vries ends his documentary with a call for apologies for Natalee, her mother, Satish, Deepak and all the people of Aruba.
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Natalee Holloway Update 28; Final Questions answered, why did he lie? Beth twitty distressed.

More live translation and summary.

"How did you know she was dead?"
" She didn't move anymore..."
"And Daury, did he check?"
"Yeah, he stood over her and looked at her?"
"That's it? What if she was in coma?"
"Uh...I don't know."
"Why did you say they(The kalpoes) picked you up?"
"Misinformation."

They are laughing about Deepak and Satish for being duped. "Idiots, losers."
De Vries believes that since he wasn't picked up by Deepak or Satish, he might have been picked up by someone else...
De Vries is at the actual location where Natalee died, not where he said she died. In his statements he always picked a spot a few hundred feet to the left. The payphone he used to call "Daury" is only a few feet away..
There is a kind of lurid black and white reconstruction going on now.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

[klaasend]

Posted by Black Tulip at RU:
 
Just watched the program. Well done Peter.


Everyone who said Joran is a psychopath is probably right. He is. Not a murderer but conscienceless for sure. Makes me feel sick.

[Observer]

Add DAddy + Lorenzo = Daury
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Also Peter De Vries should retract his apology to the Kalpoes..They are a lot more involved then he thinks and so is RunningSweaty Man!

[Noly]

and he had no trouble going home and going to sleep 

[robots]

paulus is DONE

he is DAURY

[Bearlyhere]

Don't know if this was posted yet.  I have been locked out forever.

http://www.partypeeps2000.com/members/Ghetto_Dogg.aspx

It comes up under Daury, Aruba

[klaasend]

Due to server overload - Dugga is going to have to set up the forum temporarily as member read/post only.  Lurkers that are not members need to register to become members or they won't be able to read.

[EURobert]

Hi Monk's,

(the server was down for sometime)

It was an amazing show!!!

I even heard Joran say the M word..... Murder!!!
And it's clear he wants to cover someone who helped him!

Peter did it AGAIN!!!

It was shocking to see Beth; how hurt she was. I feel very sorry for her!

[snoopy]

Thank you everyone who transcribed, and brought it here.  Thank you so much.

[robots]

covering for paulus........

paulis is the one

[robots]

Hi Monk's,

(the server was down for sometime)

It was an amazing show!!!

I even heard Joran say the M word..... Murder!!!
And it's clear he wants to cover someone who helped him!

Peter did it AGAIN!!!

It was shocking to see Beth; how hurt she was. I feel very sorry for her!

PAULUS.......imo

[texasmom]

I finally got back in....

So sad for the family....this is not the whole story.

[Frijole]

Don't know if this was posted yet.  I have been locked out forever.

http://www.partypeeps2000.com/members/Ghetto_Dogg.aspx

It comes up under Daury, Aruba

WOW... can you say "Ghetto Ganstah BLING BLING"??  LOL

Well they are already reporting that his school in Holland has confirmed he was in Holland the day Natalee died so we can confirm Sporter lied about his "best friends'" name. 

Paulus
Koen
Koen's dad
Koen and Sander
Steve Croes
?????

So, what do you think the odds are that ALE has looked in any sewage drains or tried tracking down the phone call made from the Marriot pay phone?