Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -

[martini]

I went to the streamtvnow site, paid them my five dollars, got my username and password, and can't figure out for the life of me what to do next. If anyone is seeing the show on there, would you please tell me how to access it?

TY

BT... it turned down my card, which I KNOW is good...

Q: Where are the streams? How do I watch a stream?
A: The stream list is located in the main forum in its own forum called LIVE STREAMS. Inside here you will find a list of the channels with descriptions. In order to watch the stream, click on the Channel you want to view, then click on the ONLY post inside the thread. Inside the post you will find 2 - 3 login boxes at the bottom. Each of these boxes represents a different relay server. Input your username and password (same as your STV website credentials) then click the WATCH! button. If all is well, then the stream starts. If not, search this FAQ for possible issues.

me too 

[klaasend]

From RU:

Secret footage inside the car is very clear. Not shady footage from inside a gasstation for example.

talking about the last night...talking about how Joran met the students. Camera footage from inside casino shown.

talking about Jorans living arrangements. Paulus is asleep, Anita is in Holland. Boys go to C&C. USA students are drunk. Natalee dared Joran to dance on the bar, he declines, but gives a bellyshot later that night.

Natalee leaves with the boys.

[wreck]

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD".

[klaasend]

From RU:

Secret footage inside the car is very clear. Not shady footage from inside a gasstation for example.

talking about the last night...talking about how Joran met the students. Camera footage from inside casino shown.

talking about Jorans living arrangements. Paulus is asleep, Anita is in Holland. Boys go to C&C. USA students are drunk. Natalee dared Joran to dance on the bar, he declines, but gives a bellyshot later that night.

Natalee leaves with the boys.

talking about next morning; Natalee is not in her hotelroom. A week later the 3 boys are arrested but deny involvement. A week later Paul gets arrested for obstruction of justice and instructing the 3 boys.

[Pita]

Picture of Patrick



Credit: Aristotle, BFN

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Finally got in ! Holy crap.  Busy server!! 

CUZ.. thinking about you guys if you are still here.. LUV YAH and big hugs sent to you!!

Ciskebab.. TY for translations !!!!

I should be packing more.. but had to come online to see whats up and finally got caught up reading after several server burbs!!

MAY THIS BE THE DAY FOR JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ~!!!!!!!!!   

[crazybabyborg]

As we are "listening" to the beginning of this tragedy, there is a ship with men of pure hearts searching for what remains of Natalee. I pray that they know our eyes never stray from their direction and the hope they are providing. What an inspiration and contrast they are to the evil that gave cause for their efforts. Lord, let them find her. Guide them, whisper so they hear, and let them bring her home.

God Bless the crew of the Persistence!

[klaasend]

From RU:

Secret footage inside the car is very clear. Not shady footage from inside a gasstation for example.

talking about the last night...talking about how Joran met the students. Camera footage from inside casino shown.

talking about Jorans living arrangements. Paulus is asleep, Anita is in Holland. Boys go to C&C. USA students are drunk. Natalee dared Joran to dance on the bar, he declines, but gives a bellyshot later that night.

Natalee leaves with the boys.

talking about next morning; Natalee is not in her hotelroom. A week later the 3 boys are arrested but deny involvement. A week later Paul gets arrested for obstruction of justice and instructing the 3 boys.

Older footage shown from PRDV about the HI-lie. PRDV: they could lie because the knew Natalee wouldnt return to tell the truth..

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD".

 Ready for a cigar yet?   

I swear this informer and JVDS sounds lke they had a THANG going on.. Brokeback mountain style if yah catch my drift.
 

[atlgirl]

As we are "listening" to the beginning of this tragedy, there is a ship with men of pure hearts searching for what remains of Natalee. I pray that they know our eyes never stray from their direction and the hope they are providing. What an inspiration and contrast they are to the evil that gave cause for their efforts. Lord, let them find her. Guide them, whisper so they hear, and let them bring her home.

God Bless the crew of the Persistence!

I second that.  I watched their videos the other night and it is simply amazing what they are doing.  I pray they know something specific and that Beth can finally bring Natalee home.  There's no happy ending here.  But there can be a small bit of peace for Bath and Dave.

[BTgirl]

I went to the streamtvnow site, paid them my five dollars, got my username and password, and can't figure out for the life of me what to do next. If anyone is seeing the show on there, would you please tell me how to access it?

TY

BT... it turned down my card, which I KNOW is good...

Q: Where are the streams? How do I watch a stream?
A: The stream list is located in the main forum in its own forum called LIVE STREAMS. Inside here you will find a list of the channels with descriptions. In order to watch the stream, click on the Channel you want to view, then click on the ONLY post inside the thread. Inside the post you will find 2 - 3 login boxes at the bottom. Each of these boxes represents a different relay server. Input your username and password (same as your STV website credentials) then click the WATCH! button. If all is well, then the stream starts. If not, search this FAQ for possible issues.

me too 

I got in, got to the right channel, put in my username and password, and then couldn't pull up the picture/sound. It keeps telling me something is corrupted. Pfffttt!!!!! I give up!

[klaasend]

From RU:

Secret footage inside the car is very clear. Not shady footage from inside a gasstation for example.

talking about the last night...talking about how Joran met the students. Camera footage from inside casino shown.

talking about Jorans living arrangements. Paulus is asleep, Anita is in Holland. Boys go to C&C. USA students are drunk. Natalee dared Joran to dance on the bar, he declines, but gives a bellyshot later that night.

Natalee leaves with the boys.

talking about next morning; Natalee is not in her hotelroom. A week later the 3 boys are arrested but deny involvement. A week later Paul gets arrested for obstruction of justice and instructing the 3 boys.

Older footage shown from PRDV about the HI-lie. PRDV: they could lie because the knew Natalee wouldnt return to tell the truth..

talking about the second lie: the one about the picking up by Deepak and the evidence from text messages and msn.

[cubbeegirl]

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD".

 Ready for a cigar yet?   

I swear this informer and JVDS sounds lke they had a THANG going on.. Brokeback mountain style if yah catch my drift.
 

I think so to Ang... been thinking it for awhile now, ever since Joran's phone call when he was almost crying and when they said he gave him a gift...just saying..

[Buckeye]

TEll Joran was arrested, as was Paul. Paul was arrested on suspicion of helping dispose the body. First statement was the same (left Natalee on the beach). Police soon finds out it was a concocted story. At first this was believed to be a white lie....
Peter doubted this from the get go and says: if you know she's fine, why lie? Unless you know Natalee will never return...


http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

[the big hammer]

10 Times...

...with embellishment added during each incremental telling...

That's alot of corroboration.  And as many have said, explains why Persistence is where she is.

It's one thing to "lie", but it's quite another to provide overlapping corroborations with new details, during numerous subsequent re-tellings.

No wonder the goon through wine in his face.  De Vries has got him it seems, but whether legal chain of custody holds, and admissability threshold crossed, we shall see.

I hope so...

.

[klaasend]

More from RU (didn't want to quote myself any more, lol ):

talking about the shoe-mystery: really missing or did Joran lose them because there was evidence on them? Once again older footage from the first PRDV-show; about the shoes. PRDV thinks the beach is too small to leave the shoes on the beach.

6 monthes ago PRDV got an unique chance to investigate the case.

The friend , patrick used to live on aruba but now in the netherlands. He gave Joran the impression he knew his way in the criminal world. Joran was under the impression they could be partners in crime one day

[Observer]

Natalee Holloway Update 21; Peter's reconstruction of events.

Joran met Natalee at the blackjack table. Joran and Deepak and Satish went to the casino/bar were Joran drank a jello-shot out of her belly button. She leaves with Joran, Satish and Deepak. Her friends ask her to get out of the car. She refuses and is never seen again.

When Joran, Deepak and Satish are arrested a week later, they were probably instructed by Joran's father, a judge in training. Their original story was that they dropped her off at the Holiday inn.

According to De Vries, this story is 'liars-logic' Why would you lie about this, unless you know that you can't be proven wrong? After this Joran claimed that Deepak picked him up at the beach, where he left Natalee, because she was unwilling to go. Deepak declared that this didn't happen.

Joran apparently left his shoes at the beach, according to him. Peter says this is a telling lie. His shoes were only a few feet from where he supposedly left. Unless something else happened to the shoes.
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Natalee Holloway Update 20; Peter R. De Vries Slams Joran's book!! Joran knows exactly what happened!!! Confession coming up live on tape!!!

Peter R. De Vries is upset about Joran van der Sloot's book. He claims that Joran is lying, has been lying all along. The introduction to his book Joran wrote that he won't find peace until the case is solved. De Vries sneers and is telling the viewers that he has been doubting Joran's statements since the beginning, and this is why he has set up the hiddencamera action.

Patrick van der Eem claims to have been his friend the last few years, played poker with him, and bought him marijuana (legal in Holland.) They showed a bit of the footage they caught, and then cut to commercial. Patrick van der Eem recieved abot 5000 euros per month for five months. Next one coming up.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD".

 Ready for a cigar yet?   

I swear this informer and JVDS sounds lke they had a THANG going on.. Brokeback mountain style if yah catch my drift.
 

I think so to Ang... been thinking it for awhile now, ever since Joran's phone call when he was almost crying and when they said he gave him a gift...just saying..

LOL  ~!! Hey sweety !!  Hope THIS is finally it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[wreck]

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD".

 Ready for a cigar yet?   

I swear this informer and JVDS sounds lke they had a THANG going on.. Brokeback mountain style if yah catch my drift.
 

he hee he -- I always thought Joran being gay was far-fetched -- now I'm 100% sure he at least swings both ways!!!

[crazybabyborg]

The guys change their story and say they left J&NAt at the beach. Joran says they walked the beachline and "fondled"... Joran put his shoes on the beach... after a while Joran wants to leave, Natalee doesnt. Joran says he leaves natalee, and deepak picks him up...

Deepak says he never picked Joran up. Chat & SMS messages confirm Joran is lying (HEy Swa, IM home -> why send that, if he just dropped you off)... Joran checks msn, and downloads 2 porn movies...
What happened to his shoes? He says he left them, but they were never found. Were they really lost, or disposed, cause they could be linked to Joran?....


Peter talking: I could imagine him losing his shoes, but now I'm on the scene, I can see its hard to believe losing your shoes on the beach, as its all very close by. So, did he lose them, or is something else going on?