Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -

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Peter R. Update for CTV

zondag 3 februari 2008
Joran keeps hinting to Patrick he knows more. Patrick keeps holfding Joran off, but contacts Peter R. They make a plan...
Joran wants to do some petty crimes to make quick cash. Joran looks up to P, who he thinks is a bigtime grower/dealer. Joran gets in the car...
Patrick asks about N for the first time. Subtle, cause the case has been queit for a while, so no real reason to start talking about it.
Wednesday nov. 21...TYhe day before they want to make a first move, Joran is rearrested....

BUMMER

Geplaatst door Matthijs op 13:01 0 reacties 



6 months ago Peter got a great chance. Patrick vd EEE, an aruban guy who lives in NL, now an entrepeneur, made Joran believe they could e partners in crime. Thye met in a casino. He saw Joran there and spoke to Joran cause he's from the antillen as well...
Joran was smoking lots a weed in those days. Patrick made J believe he was selling/growing weed, which Joran found intrigueing. Joran gained trust cause P never asked about the case from the start. "I dont care I said, whats done was done.. Joran wanted to tell me but I kept holding it off. Kept saying "I cant keep it to myself, Im not ready to hear the story, but Joran kept insisting he'd tell me... I know I betrayed Joran, but Jorans not important Natalees family is, thats how I can keep a clear conscious".........

[Angiex911dsptchr]

More from RU (didn't want to quote myself any more, lol ):

talking about the shoe-mystery: really missing or did Joran lose them because there was evidence on them? Once again older footage from the first PRDV-show; about the shoes. PRDV thinks the beach is too small to leave the shoes on the beach.

6 monthes ago PRDV got an unique chance to investigate the case.

The friend , patrick used to live on aruba but now in the netherlands. He gave Joran the impression he knew his way in the criminal world. Joran was under the impression they could be partners in crime one day

Partners in crime?  geeshhhhhhhhhhhhh.. says it all right there!!   

What a chucklehead.

Love ya, Angie!

Love yah too Sweet Peaches  !!!  My potty mouthed partner in crime ! 

[klaasend]

More from RU:

First secret footage made in november (?) 2007. By this time patrick will make the first references to Natalee.

Patrick and joran had plans to start a big place where they could grow pot (cant find the word for it!)

Secret footage isnt made, because joran gets arrested.

secret footage from after the arrest in which Joran tells he didnt say a thing during the arrest.

patrick tells Joran he should be compensated because of the arrests.


Joran calling Patrick from Aruba about the interrogations and his release.

"They got nothing, I laughed at the interrogators"

[Buckeye]

Patrick van der Eem is being interviewed by Peter R. De Vries. Apparently he met Joran at the poker table in Arnhem, at a tournament. He called him 'Maton', Pidgin for Murderer, jokingly. He pretended to be his friend, won his trust. Patrick van der Eem claims that it wasn't hard to betray him. 'Her mother deserves an honest answer. He had this coming.'

He avoided talking about the case, and started communicating with De Vries. He started doing small-time criminal odd-jobs for van der Eem, who pretended to be a very big marijuanan dealer/grower.

Wednesday the 21st of November they prepared van der Eem's car for taping. Unfortunately, Joran was re-arrested before they could tape him. The department of Justice tried, but failed to crack Joran's cool. They had to let him go. But, as soon as there is new evidence, they are allowed to reopen.

Joran's release on the 7th of December has only made him bolder. But now, De Vries' cameras are watching everything. Footage is shown of Joran calling van der Eem and bragging about not saying anything in Aruban dialect.

[Buckeye]

They later learn that this arrest will turn out to be helpful.
-> talk about the last arrest. Joran doesnt talk <-
2,5 week later Joran is free again. DA closes the case, for now. J no longer a suspect.

The relation with Pat is so good, Joran contacts Pat a few days after getting out of jail. Theyve installed cameras everywhere.

J on the phone from ARUBA in the car: "they had nothin, I laughed at the police.". Patrick says: you want some weed? I can get it for you from Holland, I got good connections....

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

[Spock]

Did you see the scar on the informants face?

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Peter R. Update for CTV

zondag 3 februari 2008
They later learn that this arrest will turn out to be helpful.
-> talk about the last arrest. Joran doesnt talk <-
2,5 week later Joran is free again. DA closes the case, for now. J no longer a suspect.

The relation with Pat is so good, Joran contacts Pat a few days after getting out of jail. Theyve installed cameras everywhere.

J on the phone from ARUBA in the car: "they had nothin, I laughed at the police.". Patrick says: you want some weed? I can get it for you from Holland, I got good connections....

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Angie! I left a post for you Musings and am thrilled to see you here! Isn't this a great, long awaited Day?

Joran on tape and the story of him leaving a healthy Natalee innocently on the Beach is gone forever!

It's like toothpaste. You just can't get it back in the tube once it's squeezed out! 

 CBB I'll check out your post this evening !!  TY.. Having lotsa troub;e trying to read or even post at the moment..LOL
241 guests online plus ALL of us signed in here to SM.. HOLY CRAP !!   

[ala_gunslinger]

Did you see the scar on the informants face?

Fish hooked?

[thecuz]

sure is oposite of what joran was saying the other day....he knew there was something about this guy...he was talking to his friends...etc.....hell...this guy didn't even want to know about the case and joran wanted to tell him.....smart guy....let trust build up first before finding anything about natalee!!!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

my instincts are honed

<---------lighting up a cigar BUT i need to go outside


im with Angie, i want to hear PAPA SLOOOOOTS name 

   got some good cigars for you and Wreck and anyone else that wants one! Hell.. I may smoke one myself.. even if it means me turning green and pukin! 

SLOOTS GOING DOWN DOWN DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

your the best
pssttttttttt..i really dont smoke em.. but i will be having one today

 Robots ! You rock !! Always have with your positive attitude !!   

[Observer]

Did you see the scar on the informants face?

Yup,and he acted totally not interested in the case,Joran bit into it hook line and sinker..This guy is the man!!!!!!He did it for Beth and Natalee's Family!!   

[klaasend]

Even the DeVries show was having technical difficulties for a moment:

 

[wreck]

Angie! I left a post for you Musings and am thrilled to see you here! Isn't this a great, long awaited Day?

Joran on tape and the story of him leaving a healthy Natalee innocently on the Beach is gone forever!

It's like toothpaste. You just can't get it back in the tube once it's squeezed out! 

 CBB I'll check out your post this evening !!  TY.. Having lotsa troub;e trying to read or even post at the moment..LOL
241 guests online plus ALL of us signed in here to SM.. HOLY CRAP !!   

Thanks Angie, your offer of a cigar is very kind and generous -- but the gesture alone is more than enough!! I'll buy my own (and a few extras for some friends). I mistakenly "lit-up" in December -- but now it's for real!!!!!

[CBB]

I've been knocked off twice................save the link that Buckeye has so you can still follow should you get knocked off, while you're trying to get back in here! Here it is!

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

[Angiex911dsptchr]

sure is oposite of what joran was saying the other day....he knew there was something about this guy...he was talking to his friends...etc.....hell...this guy didn't even want to know about the case and joran wanted to tell him.....smart guy....let trust build up first before finding anything about natalee!!!

   That dude is spooky looking !! 

[klaasend]

More from RU:

after Joran comes back from aruba he has reason to talk to patrick about the case.

Joran calls patrick to arrange a meeting. Hes blowing while making the call.

Footage of the car being prepped with cameras

Patrick and Joran were also being followed with anonymous cars

Joran arrived at Schiphol on january 9th, after that their hidden camera action could start!

secret footage of joran getting in the car with patrick and giving him a present. Joran got in a fight on Aruba after his release. Had to do with a fight in the HI-casino where someone attacked him with a bottle. Joran talks about going to coutrt about it.

[Spock]

Did you see the scar on the informants face?

Fish hooked?

definitely, a phaser shot

[Observer]

So a recap.

Joran meets in a casino the infiltrator, Joran who is used to being asked about the case likes the infiltrator because he does not ask him about the case. He actually says he does not want to hear a thing about it.

The man (business owner) gives off an air of being a criminal drug grower and Joran falls for this, money, big land rover, drugs etc. lure Joran in to liking and trusting the man more and more.

He wants to tell about Natalee as somewhat as a boast but the man does not want to hear.

Later he contacts Peter R. de Vries and starts working with Peter. The car is prepared with recording materials and they want to start luring Joran into a trap. Then Joran is arrested and the plan has to be halted.

But after his release Joran waists little time before contacting him. He wants to arrange some pot for Joran on Aruba.
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Joran and his parents return to the Nehterlands and the infiltrator has contact with Joran and they agree to meet up.

Then there is some technical data about the car, the track and trace and the following cars
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he comes back with a girf for the man.

He likes the mans car

he got involved in a fight at the HI, he got a busted lip over a fight regarding a gambling debt.

talks about wanting money for his unjust arrest etc.

he claims his dad has a lot of lawyers who want to help him

[cubbeegirl]

I've been knocked off twice................save the link that Buckeye has so you can still follow should you get knocked off, while you're trying to get back in here! Here it is!

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

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