Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -

[Observer]

the boy had a license to drive a boat.

Talks about having brought her way out to sea so that she will never be found.

JORAN ALSO SAYS HE WAS ABLE TO SLEEP WITH NO PROBLEM AFTER HAVING NATALEE DIE UNDER HIS BODY

HIS NAME IS DAURY

[Red]

CTV just closed for Superbowl, so a bunch of us are here with you all, if that's ok.

We'll be really quiet.....

All of you are more than welcome  and please do not be quiet, we want to hear your opinions and comments.

[Nut44x4]

Patrick and Joran keep talking and talking. Joran says it went EVEN BETTER THAN HE THOUGHT.  Justice will have to pay him , pay him a lot. He is not a suspect anymore , he is out of their claws and now they will pay.
And Natalee? Ah , thats's just a dead girl man.
And slowly the talk goes on. And yes , he knows she will never return.
How do you know that? Because she is dead man haha , she is dead and I know because I saw her die man.

At this stage he does not tell hwo she died , just that she died on the beach.
He then called his best friend (how come police never found his best friend?) , and the friend came over and said come on , no problem.
So Joran went home , and the friend got his boat and picked her up and dumped her in the ocean.

Joran was afraid in the beginning she would wash ashore , but that did not happen.
Patrick says if it was over two miles , she will never come back man.
Joran seems satisfied about that.
Then they talk a while about the mysterious friend. Joran does not tell who he is , and Patrick "does not wnat to know"
But Patrick also says , we will make a lot of money man , so you can pay him back for what he did for you.
And so the friend is still in their talks..............

[klaasend]

More from RU:

after his confessions to patrick, joran has no problems to talk to patrick about it.


Patrick: how did you know she died?

Joran: I just knew
P: did you try CPR?

Joran: I tried everything, I pulled her up

Joran: ofcourse im afraid that friend is gping to talk, but I also have something on him.

J: he doesnt live on aruva anymore!! (wonder if it's Koen?)

Joran went home and got on the computer to create an alibi.

Friend with boat lives in Holland now, was 25

the friend wasnt questioned by police


P: what did the friend do to let her sink:

JOran: I dont know..he just went into the ocean.

Joran: that night, I just went to bed and could sleep...

P: what is the friends name?

J: Daury....

Talking about his father:

J: dad, I need a phone

He asked this while he was in jail . His father made sure he got a phone, but without calling credit. Joran smiles about this

[BTgirl]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

I would imagine there are several refugees lying on the floor in need of smelling salts right about now.

You know, it's odd - so far Joran hasn't said a word about how Jug raped Natalee and got her pregnant and she was in hiding in South America.....So much for that RU theory. 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

I would imagine there are several refugees lying on the floor in need of smelling salts right about now.

  LOL Lalas !!  DIlbert of ALL people..  ha ha ha  Im SHOCKED me thinks!  Mr Dentist Bunny himself. 

[A's Fever]

Thanks Red and Dugga.  I was just able to sign on after getting a lot of server is busy messages. 

[jill]

Daury's *** is grass.

[Dana]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

HOW PALE IS TACOPINA RIGHT NOW READING AND WATCHING THIS!!!

Tomorrow we will see his resigning from the case.

Peter R. De Vries, you are now added to my list of heros.

I have always questioned his role anyway, is he Jorans media lawyer, is he his aruba lawyer. He wont resign there will be a great deal of media attention for this. He knows Greta wont be hard on him.

[Observer]

HALF DUTCH HALF ARUBAN and now in the Netherlands. He was never questioned.

Joran denies his father having done anything that night to help him.

But his father did call in a favor and got him a phone inside the jail. His father bought him a phone, calls his father a f***ing idiot for not putting any phone minutes on the phone he procured for him.

[jill]

CTV just closed for Superbowl, so a bunch of us are here with you all, if that's ok.

We'll be really quiet.....

All of you are more than welcome  and please do not be quiet, we want to hear your opinions and comments.

Thanks, Red.  But right now I'm pretty much in tears.

That little **************.

[Kimmy53]

The name of the guy who dumped her: DAURY!
http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

[klaasend]

More from RU:

Joran lied in his book about the phone his father gave him in jail.

january 16th: Patrick asks Joran to tell the whole story once again.

Joran talks about a friend of Natalee who wanted to f*** him that night. He says he didnt go after Natalee, but after a friend. He drinks something with the girls at the bar. Natalee approached him at the bar.

[Dana]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

I would imagine there are several refugees lying on the floor in need of smelling salts right about now.

You know, it's odd - so far Joran hasn't said a word about how Jug raped Natalee and got her pregnant and she was in hiding in South America.....So much for that RU theory. 

The wonderful Greta should be asked the same thing .

[crazybabyborg]

Who's Daury?

[A's Fever]

"You'll get 15 years if they see that chit" - what chit?? Hope further confessions reveal more details.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Now that Joran confessed to Pat, Patrick can ask about the case some more...

P: "How do you know she was dead Joran?"
J: "I lifted her, I touched her, she was dead, I tried everything. I knew these some guys from way back, this one guy helped me. I got something on him as well, so he might talk, but I dont think he will. The guy now lives in Holland".

Peter: Joran went home to clear his tracks: MSN, pron downloading etc. Tries to make an alibi.

J: "I didnt ask the guy to help me, he came and saw me there on the beach, and he offered to help me. He was 25. He knew I was going to the US, so he wanted to help me. In the beginning I played it smart, cause I knew they couldnt find her. Well, and I was SOOOOO lucky, cause they never even questioned this guy. The guy has his ÿachting license" I dont know how he dumped her, her says he just dumped her off the boat. I was SOOOO lucky.
I just went home and slept, that night"

The name of the guy who dumped her: DAURY!

Daury?  New name to me..

[Observer]

Natalee Holloway Update 25; Joran more 'relaxed' after confession. "She was just Dead... CPR did not work..."

More live translation of the tapes... Sorry for the spelling, there is a lot going on.
"Aren't you scared he'll rat you out?"
"I've got something on him as well.."

Joran apparently fixed certain details and set up an alibi.

"He offered, I didn't ask him. He didn't know how big it was going to get,"
"And..."
"They haven't even questioned him..."
"How old is he? Your age?"
"No, 25.."
"How did he do it?"
"I don't know, he did it all."
"What is his name?"
"Daury.."
"Daury What?"
"Daury *******" (beeped)

Now Peter is talking about Joran's father's machinations. He apparently got him a phone while in prison. "He such an idiot, bought me a phone, but forgot to buy a lot of credit. There was only 10 guilders on it." This contradicts the story in his book.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

[Anna]

He sais it was someone callt Daury never been arrested

Thank you so much Ciskebab!  Unknown party.  So all the guesses were completely wrong.

.

[MisGivings]

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

HOW PALE IS TACOPINA RIGHT NOW READING AND WATCHING THIS!!!

Tomorrow we will see his resigning from the case.

Peter R. De Vries, you are now added to my list of heros.

I imagine TakeAPenny is pretty drunk right now, and probably full from eating all that crow.