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Quote from: Dihannah1 on February 03, 2008, 07:01:30 PM
Just as soon as I was thinking the Dark Side was becoming "enlightened", there are alot of people are feeling bad, but you have to leave it to somebody to begin debunking the story...
MF wrote:
Sorry to dissapoint you all but just confirmed with high position people at the marriot, they never had payphones at the pool, back in 2005 there were Setar's payphone in the lobby and the lobby alone has 20 cameras. There is one phone on the beach, but from De Palm and needs credit card.
At this point MF WHO CARES WHAT PHONE HE USED.....AAAAAAAACCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 07:03:14 PM
Klaasend,
You maybe right about that but the way he talked about the 2k was not very flattering for them: they were stupid, unsuccesfull with girls and Joran said he even convinced them [and that was another reason to despise them] of telling the first 'lobby'-lie without them having any reason to do so. So I think it could well be possible that they're not stuck so deep in this as we all thought.
Yep - and don't forget the chat Deepak had with John Charles Croes where he talked about Natalee having her hands down his pants.
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New England just got a touchdown~
No Fear~
Joran is caught up in all the lies~
Daury is not the correct name~
I have a feeling J4N is finally here~
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Quote from: klaasend on February 03, 2008, 07:01:26 PM
Posted on the front page of SM - this poster is from the NL:
Erik wrote:
Again, Joran is not stupid, so why didn’t he just leave her there lying on the beach? sure not an honourable thing to do, but next day she would have been found, dead or alive, and that would have been the end of it.
So why all that trouble of dumping her in the sea?
No no, there is still something rotten in the state of Aruba.
Feb 3, 7:58 PM
EXACTLY!
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Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 07:03:14 PM
Klaasend,
You maybe right about that but the way he talked about the 2k was not very flattering for them: they were stupid, unsuccesfull with girls and Joran said he even convinced them [and that was another reason to despise them] of telling the first 'lobby'-lie without them having any reason to do so. So I think it could well be possible that they're not stuck so deep in this as we all thought.
Yes, time for some lawsuits from them against the bastard.
Klaas, glad to see that post from the Dutch person who is so disgusted and writing for justice. I'm sure that's the sentiment across NL right now. Just wait til it reaches here!
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Joran might be better off in jail, with 16 million hollander's knowing what he did, his life will be miserable.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
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Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 06:49:47 PM
One sentence in Jorans confession jumped out for me! In fact at first it seemes a quite nondescript sentence but...
At a certain point he says something like: 'A person who just murdered someone doesn't do something like that.' And at that point you can see him think of himself: 'Mmmm, should I have said it like that.'
That one sentence convinces me he had a hand in her death; maybe
they
werent just 'petting' etc, but maybe
he
was raping and using violence against her!
I've been reading the forum for years. When I got the word about the video, I knew where to go for the news. If Joran contributed in any way to Natalee's death (for instance a date rape drug on top of alcohol) and showed reckless disregard, even under Dutch law, doesn't that point to manslaughter? Could the Kalpoe brothers have witnessed him giving her a drug? Under Dutch law can the Kalpoes receive immunity for their testimony? Also, in the video Joran wasn't particualry kind to the Aruban authorities; would that anger them enough to take another look at things?
It is a bittersweet revelation for Beth, Dave and the rest of the family. They are in my thoughts and prayers.
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http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/
has combined the posts
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This is where the Tattoo Pier is
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i think phones that takes quarters and phones that take credit cards are both considered pay phones
thats enough from those idiots
everything they have ever spouted about has been debunked
then again, EVIL is as EVIL does
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
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Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 07:03:14 PM
Klaasend,
You maybe right about that but the way he talked about the 2k was not very flattering for them: they were stupid, unsuccesfull with girls and Joran said he even convinced them [and that was another reason to despise them] of telling the first 'lobby'-lie without them having any reason to do so. So I think it could well be possible that they're not stuck so deep in this as we all thought.
The Kalpoes have always said that Freddy should tell the truth. If they have any idea what truth Freddy knows they should tell Mos now. Joran made them look like fools.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on February 03, 2008, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: Puzzler on February 03, 2008, 06:26:09 PM
There is no Daury! Paulus is the only one who would have cared enough to help out Joran and tell him to go home and go to sleep and go to school tomorrow. NO ONE ELSE would have cared whether or not Joran ever went to bed or to school. IMO
I do believe Joran knows Natalee is dead (I'm sorry that eliminates the 1% of hope that Beth had of Natalee being alive).
BUT.....Joran has ALWAYS been very very protective of his father. Paulus is the ONLY person that a don't give a sh*t personality like Joran's, would ever protect...that Joran would NEVER disclose his name...that Joran completely trusted.
Even the Kalpoes are not stupid enough to take all the heat they've taken if they really aren't involved (Joran totally exonerated them except for letting them off at the beach; i.e., driving Natalee in the car).
Remember.....if they find her, they will see that sh*t....your own father!
Some trust, some bald face lies...as always!!
Oh, and the shoes...they had DNA on them...if they see that sh*t...probably blood...IMO, I believe Joran kicked her and an angry outburst!!
Oh, I think there is a Daury. I think Joran used his name to protect someone else. If so and if it's the guy from that website, Joran may be about to get his little azz kicked!
I see what you mean. Hopefully, Joran will get his little azz kicked! What I really meant, that I don't think that a person named Daury was the one who told Joran to go home and get sleep and go to school. I believe that was Paulus. Joran may have used another person's name, just to muddle up things. I think Paulus is THE major person in the cover-up.
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Quote from: klaasend on February 03, 2008, 07:05:47 PM
Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 07:03:14 PM
Klaasend,
You maybe right about that but the way he talked about the 2k was not very flattering for them: they were stupid, unsuccesfull with girls and Joran said he even convinced them [and that was another reason to despise them] of telling the first 'lobby'-lie without them having any reason to do so. So I think it could well be possible that they're not stuck so deep in this as we all thought.
Yep - and don't forget the chat Deepak had with John Charles Croes where he talked about Natalee having her hands down his pants.
That's right Klass, deepak did admit in that email to sexual contact. So it is fair to assume he was also involved.
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and all the cameras and beach patrol was in the hands of one of the pimp's fathers?
Even the time stamps on the casino videos are wrong.
Gads, will Aruba ever get their act together??
Up the boycott!
The Dutch program will get great coverage tonight after the Super Bowl. Yippee... the last arrests on Thanksgiving when people are at home to watch tV and then today and 20/20 and Greta tomorrow!!
Timing couldn't be better for those tourists thinking about going to Aruba.
To the Dutch and Aruba... do the humane thing NOW and rise above elitism, cronyism, corruption and cover-up
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
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You maybe right about that; maybe he threatened them to tell of them sexually abusing Natalee (and others). Maybe that's why they went along with his lies.
I hope the ALE, the KLPD, the OM, Mos do their work right this time; this newest stuff is presented as a GIFT to them!
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Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 07:03:14 PM
Klaasend,
You maybe right about that but the way he talked about the 2k was not very flattering for them: they were stupid, unsuccessful with girls and Joran said he even convinced them [and that was another reason to despise them] of telling the first 'lobby'-lie without them having any reason to do so. So I think it could well be possible that they're not stuck so deep in this as we all thought.
Totally agreed. But I think it will take a lot of convincing to some. Good for them. But I am still appalled over their actions towards Natalee and her family after they were pretty damn sure Joran was responsible. They will never be free of this, and its due their own stupidity.
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Joran will never see a dime of restitution money, now! He was SOOO looking forward to it, too.
I can't believe what horrible parents he has. It will not be possible to take them seriously ever again.
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freddy and paulus took 2 vehicles to go get joran
freddy to pick joran up and bring him home and paulus AKA "daury" used the other vehicle
to take and get rid of Natalee
JOE T has just fainted... be careful JOE
JORAN might take you out and KILL you
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
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Quote from: Dawntreader on February 03, 2008, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: EURobert on February 03, 2008, 06:49:47 PM
One sentence in Jorans confession jumped out for me! In fact at first it seemes a quite nondescript sentence but...
At a certain point he says something like: 'A person who just murdered someone doesn't do something like that.' And at that point you can see him think of himself: 'Mmmm, should I have said it like that.'
That one sentence convinces me he had a hand in her death; maybe
they
werent just 'petting' etc, but maybe
he
was raping and using violence against her!
I've been reading the forum for years. When I got the word about the video, I knew where to go for the news. If Joran contributed in any way to Natalee's death (for instance a date rape drug on top of alcohol) and showed reckless disregard, even under Dutch law, doesn't that point to manslaughter? Could the Kalpoe brothers have witnessed him giving her a drug? Under Dutch law can the Kalpoes receive immunity for their testimony? Also, in the video Joran wasn't particualry kind to the Aruban authorities; would that anger them enough to take another look at things?
It is a bittersweet revelation for Beth, Dave and the rest of the family. They are in my thoughts and prayers.
From what we know of Aruban law, which changes with the tides, the Kalpoes can't plea bargain or get immunity for their testimony against Joran.
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duh sorry should have been "were" What happens when watching the game and here too
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