Natalee Case Discussion #721 2/3- 2/4/08

[AZSunny]

Joran did say his semen was inside Natalee. The only thing hypothetical was "if they find the body"

From the video:

'I didn't say shit. They have nothing on me anymore. Even if they find her body with my sperm in it, they can't do shit. they're f***ing idiots."

Gotta be a good reason WHY joran feels so protected....no matter what they find.

But didn't he say in the confessions that she had given him a hand job, and he wanted a blow job?  How would they find his sperm in her body unless he raped her.  Which of course is what he did in my opinion. He is the fxxking idiot!!!

[blah]

Posted on the front page of SM:

gekke aap wrote:


look at these pics. the comment under the second picture:

People in Drachten are hunting down Joran. They are holding up cabs to see if he might escape in one. There are rumours that he’s in this flat


http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/archives/binnenland/2008/02/peiling_bekentenissen_joran_kl.html

Yep Klaas...he's finally got his very own fan club...errrrr...I mean lynch mob!

LYNCH MOB!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kgwallace88]

See you later monkeys. .I'm off to get a nap so I can watch 20/20 tonight and not fall asleep!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Can someone edit out that 'whiny voice' comment in Heli's transcript posted by Blonde and quoted by Tamikosmom?   It bothers me....

[Peaches]

See you later monkeys. .I'm off to get a nap so I can watch 20/20 tonight and not fall asleep!

I believe that's a good idea.  Take care, y'all.

[Anna]

Oh, no!  Joran is trying to look like Rudy Croes with the beard effect.  Well, why not?  After all, that's who has kept him out of jail all this time along with a few corrupt judges.

[klaasend]

Posted at RU by Pronkjewail:


Advocaat: politie weet waar Joran is
door onze internetredactie
AMSTERDAM - De politie weet waar Joran van der Sloot is en hij is beschikbaar voor verhoor, dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in het tv-programma Nova.
The police knows of Jorans whereabouts and he is available for interrogation, says his attorney Bert de Rooij mondaynight at Nova.

Het verhoor zou deze week nog kunnen plaatsvinden, zei De Rooij. Volgens zijn advocaat zijn er bij de huiszoeking maandag uit de woning van zijn oma een harddisk en uit zijn studentenhuis een laptop meegenomen.

The interrogation could happen this week, says De Rooij. According to his lawyer there was a harddisk taken from his grandmothers house during the search on monday and also a notebook from his studentdorm.
De advocaat heeft zondag- en maandagmiddag met zijn cliënt gesproken. Joran maakte maandag een aangeslagen indruk, zei zijn raadsman.
The lawyer talked to his client on sunday and monday. Joran made an affected impression according to his lawyer.

De Rooij zegt dat Joran gokverslaafd is, hij is helemaal gek van pokeren. Hij raakte bevriend met Patrick van der Eem in het casino. Van der Eem zette in opdracht van Peter R. de Vries een val voor Joran op. Joran zou via Van der Eem snel geld kunnen verdienen in het criminele circuit. Maar omdat hij geen crimineel verleden heeft, probeert hij Van der Eem te imponeren met zijn bekentenis over Natalee Holloway, aldus De Rooij.

De Rooij says Joran has a gamblingaddiction, he is crazy about poker. He befriended Patrick van der Eem at a casino. Van der Eem set up Joran for PRDV. Joran would be able to make a lot of money through Van der Eem in the criminal circuit. Because he didnt have a criminal record, he tries to impress Van der Eem with his confession about Natalee Holloway, says De rooij.

Volgens de raadsman is Joran 'een serieleugenaar'. According to his lawyer, Joran is a serial liar.

De hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) in Aruba zegt dat ze Joran niet zomaar aan zullen houden, uit vrees voor een derde vrijlating

Hans Mos of the OM in Aruba says they wont just arrest Joran, because they are afraid of a third release.

[KarmaRoundUp]

One theory:

12:45 J2K arrive at beach with NH

1:45 Natalee is unconsous, 2K rush home to establish alibi
If Natalee was only unconcious when joran left her on the beach....why the need for a alibi and coverup....he's known for leaving unsuspecting,unconcious girls on the beach.No,joran left a dead Natalee on the beach.
2:00 Joran reaches payphone calls father then hides body in bushes

2:00 Deepak contacts a friend who leaves for the beach

2:30 Paulus arrives on beach, tells Joran to head home and get that alibi going

2:30 Friend arrives and body is moved to sea or body is hidden to next day for disposal

2:30 Joran calls Deepak advising of situation and telling him to expect messaging

3:30 Joran and Deepak messgaing concludes

My opinion, more details can be filled in.

[SunnyinTX]

Joran did say his semen was inside Natalee. The only thing hypothetical was "if they find the body"

From the video:

'I didn't say shit. They have nothing on me anymore. Even if they find her body with my sperm in it, they can't do shit. they're f***ing idiots."

Gotta be a good reason WHY joran feels so protected....no matter what they find.

But didn't he say in the confessions that she had given him a hand job, and he wanted a blow job?  How would they find his sperm in her body unless he raped her.  Which of course is what he did in my opinion. He is the fxxking idiot!!!

I think that statement alone is proof he raped her!!  I believe in my heart she was given the date rape drug shortly before leaving C&C....there has never been one iota of proof or even rumor other than from the damn RU's that Natalee was anything other than a virgin...so the  consensual sex is bull crap....

[Tamikosmom]

He threw her in the toilet instead.  Those that sleep with azzholes, sooner or later find themselves in the toilet.

... not my articulation Bearly but ... I am 100% in agreement with ya.

Janet

+++++++++++


Matthew 7:6-7

Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you.

Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.

[klaasend]

Can someone edit out that 'whiny voice' comment in Heli's transcript posted by Blonde and quoted by Tamikosmom?   It bothers me....

Done

[Elaine]

Posted by Angelala @ BFN an email she received from Jossy


from:XXX@XXX.com
to:XXX@XXX.com

dateFeb 4, 2008 9:12 AM
subjectRe: Well...

I found the admissions damning for Joran. There's no way he can wriggle out of this by saying that he lied, because this is the one time he was certain no one could have been listening to him, much less put him on camera! He was in a moving car with a trusted friend, after whom he was in the process of modeling his behavior. He was convinced Eems belonged to the world of petty crime in which he wanted to participate to make easy money, according to reports received from Holland. Those reports also have him smoking marihuana in the car.
 
His confession that Natalee died in his arms (without telling us how nor why), and his admission that he threw her in the water conforms with everything that we know about the case. He was telling the truth, regardles of how it will play out legally, considering the tricks, twists and turns of the smart-alec defense attorneys.
 
Forget about Daury. He was not there, but someone else was, and we aim to find out who. There is a tip that came in immediately after the disclosures, that puts another name on the "friend" that he identified as Daury. We are in the process of checking it out. The rest is not fancy, or invention, but the truth of what happened to Natalee.
 
Jossy

Note:  I don't put actual link because you have to register at BFN to read.
.

"friend" is on this list

PVDS
LVR
KG
SG
SC

Right, except there is one importanat friend left off this list who I think is gonna be very important in all this.   GW

friend is on this list

PVDS
LVR
KG
SG
SC
GW

[Yellow Ribbon]

Whether or not Joran is ever convicted of anything, we now have it from his own mouth that he is guilty. He is forever a disgraced man, a pariah. There is some justice in that.

Shortly I'll be driving down that road you've all seen hundreds of times in the video of Natalee talking in the back of the car. This time it will feel different.

[Tamikosmom]

Posted at RU by Pronkjewail:


Advocaat: politie weet waar Joran is
door onze internetredactie
AMSTERDAM - De politie weet waar Joran van der Sloot is en hij is beschikbaar voor verhoor, dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in het tv-programma Nova.
The police knows of Jorans whereabouts and he is available for interrogation, says his attorney Bert de Rooij mondaynight at Nova.

Het verhoor zou deze week nog kunnen plaatsvinden, zei De Rooij. Volgens zijn advocaat zijn er bij de huiszoeking maandag uit de woning van zijn oma een harddisk en uit zijn studentenhuis een laptop meegenomen.

The interrogation could happen this week, says De Rooij. According to his lawyer there was a harddisk taken from his grandmothers house during the search on monday and also a notebook from his studentdorm.
De advocaat heeft zondag- en maandagmiddag met zijn cliënt gesproken. Joran maakte maandag een aangeslagen indruk, zei zijn raadsman.
The lawyer talked to his client on sunday and monday. Joran made an affected impression according to his lawyer.

De Rooij zegt dat Joran gokverslaafd is, hij is helemaal gek van pokeren. Hij raakte bevriend met Patrick van der Eem in het casino. Van der Eem zette in opdracht van Peter R. de Vries een val voor Joran op. Joran zou via Van der Eem snel geld kunnen verdienen in het criminele circuit. Maar omdat hij geen crimineel verleden heeft, probeert hij Van der Eem te imponeren met zijn bekentenis over Natalee Holloway, aldus De Rooij.

De Rooij says Joran has a gamblingaddiction, he is crazy about poker. He befriended Patrick van der Eem at a casino. Van der Eem set up Joran for PRDV. Joran would be able to make a lot of money through Van der Eem in the criminal circuit. Because he didnt have a criminal record, he tries to impress Van der Eem with his confession about Natalee Holloway, says De rooij.

Volgens de raadsman is Joran 'een serieleugenaar'. According to his lawyer, Joran is a serial liar.

De hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) in Aruba zegt dat ze Joran niet zomaar aan zullen houden, uit vrees voor een derde vrijlating

Hans Mos of the OM in Aruba says they wont just arrest Joran, because they are afraid of a third release.

Thanks Klaas.

Hans Mos of the OM in Aruba says they wont just arrest Joran, because they are afraid of a third release.

I asked Hans Mos ... What would it take?  Crazy!!

Janet

[Spock]

Who was on the beach after 2K left?

NH
JVDS
PVDS
SC?
GW?

Who was the friend with the boat?

LVR?
KG?
SG?
SC?

Who did JVDS call?

PVDS

Who did KD call?

SC

[SunnyinTX]

Whether or not Joran is ever convicted of anything, we now have it from his own mouth that he is guilty. He is forever a disgraced man, a pariah. There is some justice in that.

Shortly I'll be driving down that road you've all seen hundreds of times in the video of Natalee talking in the back of the car. This time it will feel different.

As you drive down that road remember it was a happy time for Natalee....take comfort in that thought!

[Blonde]

Joran willing to talk to Prosecutors.

This is the last one... I hope before I leave:

Advocaat: politie weet waar Joran is
door onze internetredactie
AMSTERDAM - De politie weet waar Joran van der Sloot is en hij is beschikbaar voor verhoor, dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in het tv-programma Nova.

Het verhoor zou deze week nog kunnen plaatsvinden, zei De Rooij. Volgens zijn advocaat zijn er bij de huiszoeking maandag uit de woning van zijn oma een harddisk en uit zijn studentenhuis een laptop meegenomen.

De advocaat heeft zondag- en maandagmiddag met zijn cliënt gesproken. Joran maakte maandag een aangeslagen indruk, zei zijn raadsman.

De Rooij zegt dat Joran gokverslaafd is, hij is helemaal gek van pokeren. Hij raakte bevriend met Patrick van der Eem in het casino. Van der Eem zette in opdracht van Peter R. de Vries een val voor Joran op. Joran zou via Van der Eem snel geld kunnen verdienen in het criminele circuit. Maar omdat hij geen crimineel verleden heeft, probeert hij Van der Eem te imponeren met zijn bekentenis over Natalee Holloway, aldus De Rooij.

Volgens de raadsman is Joran 'een serieleugenaar'.

De hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) in Aruba zegt dat ze Joran niet zomaar aan zullen houden, uit vrees voor een derde vrijlating

Last edited by MF on Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total   MediaFreak



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MF Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:48 pm   

Joran van der Sloot is bereid een verklaring af te leggen tegenover Justitie over de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway. Dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in tv-programma NOVA. 

[blah]

Whether or not Joran is ever convicted of anything, we now have it from his own mouth that he is guilty. He is forever a disgraced man, a pariah. There is some justice in that.

Shortly I'll be driving down that road you've all seen hundreds of times in the video of Natalee talking in the back of the car. This time it will feel different.

As you drive down that road remember it was a happy time for Natalee....take comfort in that thought!

And crank up some Lynard Skynard on your stereo!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=huLklsj_5HI

 

[Lala'sMom]

Joran is free to see what is being said...he has to endure it all without the protection of his mommy and his evil daddy.  There is no one to cover for him this time.  Everyone knows in Holland what he's done.  They want to know what we know.  They want to read what we know...why do you think this site is crashing all the time?  They will keep reading what Joran has said and compare it to what he really did and think it doesn't add up.  The world is watching Aruba!  You can make it so Joran can't come back, but your tourism is gone now.  Who goes to an island paradise where drugs are rampant and drugging girls for sex is common?  It's out there for the entire world to see...you can't put this genie back in the bottle. Someone is going to say...enough!  That is when Joran will be taken care of.  It's only a matter of time.  Silence is golden and Aruba needs silence for a change.  This is my opinion of course. 

[thirdstrike]

Joran willing to talk to Prosecutors.

This is the last one... I hope before I leave:

Advocaat: politie weet waar Joran is
door onze internetredactie
AMSTERDAM - De politie weet waar Joran van der Sloot is en hij is beschikbaar voor verhoor, dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in het tv-programma Nova.

Het verhoor zou deze week nog kunnen plaatsvinden, zei De Rooij. Volgens zijn advocaat zijn er bij de huiszoeking maandag uit de woning van zijn oma een harddisk en uit zijn studentenhuis een laptop meegenomen.

De advocaat heeft zondag- en maandagmiddag met zijn cliënt gesproken. Joran maakte maandag een aangeslagen indruk, zei zijn raadsman.

De Rooij zegt dat Joran gokverslaafd is, hij is helemaal gek van pokeren. Hij raakte bevriend met Patrick van der Eem in het casino. Van der Eem zette in opdracht van Peter R. de Vries een val voor Joran op. Joran zou via Van der Eem snel geld kunnen verdienen in het criminele circuit. Maar omdat hij geen crimineel verleden heeft, probeert hij Van der Eem te imponeren met zijn bekentenis over Natalee Holloway, aldus De Rooij.

Volgens de raadsman is Joran 'een serieleugenaar'.

De hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) in Aruba zegt dat ze Joran niet zomaar aan zullen houden, uit vrees voor een derde vrijlating

Last edited by MF on Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total   MediaFreak



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MF Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:48 pm   

Joran van der Sloot is bereid een verklaring af te leggen tegenover Justitie over de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway. Dat zei zijn advocaat Bert de Rooij maandagavond in tv-programma NOVA. 

So now he's willing to talk to prosecutors?  Didn't he have opportunities to do just that in the recent past?  What's he going to say...that he made up yet another story?

I agree with what others have said in here.  In that...regardless of how the Aruban authorities handle this latest admission, he'll forever be known as a liar and more importantly a murderer!  Americans aren't stupid!  Once they watch this 20/20 show tonight, he won't be able to fool anyone anymore!! Hopefully, that includes Greta...