Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 - 2/5/08am

[Dayhiker]

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Quote from: Yellow Ribbon on Today at 04:03:30 PM
Whether or not Joran is ever convicted of anything, we now have it from his own mouth that he is guilty. He is forever a disgraced man, a pariah. There is some justice in that.

Shortly I'll be driving down that road you've all seen hundreds of times in the video of Natalee talking in the back of the car. This time it will feel different.


He certainly is a pariah Yellow ribbon. Personally I'd rather leave it just the way it is than see Hans Mos pull another FUBAR on Aruba and have those corrupt Dutch judges down there clear him again.

As it stands he has convicted himself. It will be spread all over the world tonite by ABC News.

GUILTY!!!!

I agree!  I know many call for this guy's head.  But, he'll never be able to live the way he's been living for the past few years.  He's the Dutch O.J.!  He'll be a joke and a novelty from this point forward.  And, trust me when I say this...he'll pay the piper much sooner then later...

He's a dead man walking, TS. You know when the peaceful Dutch populace are pissed he's in trouble. He's gonna pay the Piper every day he walks this earth and in eternal Hell thereafter.

[blah]

Monday, 4 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 37: Joran's lawyer offers a talk between him and the prosecutors, Makes weak excuses, Joran is addicted to gambling, in debt
 
Joran's Dutch Lawyer is making excuses for Joran now. He's apparently a pathological liar and needed money for his gambling addiction, and this is why he told the 'lies' about Natalee's disappearance. De Vries has 'twisted' the evidence in his advantage.

Hans Mos and a Law psychologist have just joined the discussion and are not buying it. There argument is that the other evidence fits the story, and the main part that's interesting is the 'missing' part of the story between Ntalee dying and "Daury" showing up to dispose of the body.

Hans Mos has just claimed that the 'Daury' that appeared in the papers yesterday is a different one. The last names, beeped in the show, are different. Hans Mos has already contacted the 'real' Daury. He's hoping that Joran will help them with what actually happened this time.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/2008/02/natalee-holloway-update-37-jorans.html

so before the confession he was an "off the charts intelligent honor roll student" who aced all of his exams was a model citizen and his hobbies included studing law, helping the needy and reading the bible.  He never gambeled with real money only free tournaments, he never did drugs or alcohol and wouldnt dream of having sex without a condom.  He was such an upstanding citizen that he was ashamed of leaving a girl sitting alone on the beach so he made up the lie about dropping her off at the Holliday Inn and framed 2 security guards in the process.

Now that Joran has been caught off guard - being his real self on candid video he is a victim of a disease - gambling addiction.  He would do anything to support his addiciton even telling lies about his involvement in killing and hiding Natalee just to impress some drug dealer so he could make some easy money to dealing drugs for this guy.

Come on, you idiots just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper, you fool no one but yourselves.  YOU CANNOT SPIN THIS SHIT!!!  Time to man up and take it on the chin - you are busted.  You did the crime and now you will do the time, the whole world can see through your nonesense.

ITS OVER, GIVE IT UP!!!  NO ONE IS BUYING WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SELL!!! 

The ONLY thing you can do now is take the authorities to the body and throw yourself on the mercy of the courts.  DO YOU NOT SEE THE LYNCH MOBS????  DO you see anything in their eyes that would lead you to believe you can bullshit them anymore? The whole world knows, your goose is cooked.  Do the right thing, turn yourself in and take it like a man.

[thirdstrike]

Hans Mos, you need to  find all the bones  that have  washed up on Aruba and retest them.  While you are  at  it, look and see who was  covering up all the evidence.  There are pieces  of  Natalee's top that washed  up-that fits into his admission.   Get Joran, Paulus  and everyone that covered up for them.   How does a   judge not  find enough evidence to hold a  criminal when he  has obstucted  justice.  That is a  big clue the guy is guilty.

I also think it's a big clue that there are still forces at work on that island are protecting that murderer!  If he's no taken to task for this taped confession, it'll prove (2) things:

1) Joran's guilty!
2) The ALE and judicial system are corrupt!

[Tamikosmom]

Monday, 4 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 37: Joran's lawyer offers a talk between him and the prosecutors, Makes weak excuses, Joran is addicted to gambling, in debt
 
Joran's Dutch Lawyer is making excuses for Joran now. He's apparently a pathological liar and needed money for his gambling addiction, and this is why he told the 'lies' about Natalee's disappearance. De Vries has 'twisted' the evidence in his advantage.

Hans Mos and a Law psychologist have just joined the discussion and are not buying it. There argument is that the other evidence fits the story, and the main part that's interesting is the 'missing' part of the story between Ntalee dying and "Daury" showing up to dispose of the body.

Hans Mos has just claimed that the 'Daury' that appeared in the papers yesterday is a different one. The last names, beeped in the show, are different. Hans Mos has already contacted the 'real' Daury. He's hoping that Joran will help them with what actually happened this time.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/2008/02/natalee-holloway-update-37-jorans.html

Oliver de Vries is the administrator of this blog EQUIVOCATION NATION.  Who is he?  Is he related to Peter Devries?  What has given the blogs on this site credibility?

Just asking.   

Thanks

Janet

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Olivier de Vries
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Astrological Sign: Libra
Zodiac Year: Rooster
 
About Me
My family came over to the internet on the mayflower. After being expelled from some of the finest boarding schools in Europe, I returned here, to live out my days as a Philosoper/link farmer.

[Destiny]

Methinks Aruba has finally figued out that, they are not the center of the Universe...too bad they waited too long.

I wonder if a lot of those people in NL, looking in cabs and such...have visions of REWARD dancing in their heads.....this could be the reason that Urine can't/won't go back to Aruba...

Watch out Paulus...the REWARD applies to you too

[Dayhiker]

Well, if Aruba dosn't get justice for Natalee, he's a dead man walking. He is now and for ever Hated by ALL> Someone will take care of him.

LOL, I just said the same. Welcome to the cage Littlebuddy!

[oldfart]

OK, I admit it - I read all afternoon at work.   

When I read the part where the people of Holland are so pissed they are stopping taxi drivers to make sure our Sporter isn't trying to escape I wanted to jump out of my chair and do a dance.   

This is exactly what I was hoping for.... and it hasn't even really hit the US yet... you wait.... oooh it will get ugly.  Even Joe Taco won't be able to spin it.  Greta will be inclined to take her words back - the panel will be "axing" all kinds of questions of Joran.  lmao

Joran you are a walking target.  I love it.  About time.  Now time to turn up the heat on Paulus.

yep

CRANK IT UP 

   Hi Monkeys
Frijole
You nailed my thoughts to a T.
Not sure how much this will tape will help MOS or the ALE...  it will be interesting if this has any effect on the boycott .

I just hope ABC  includes something in tonight's show... that may be carried back to Holland that reminds people that there is still a reward (I think) for infomation. Kinda like the old Wanted posters.. from the OldWest ....

JMO  of course

[Lala'sMom]

Now where exactly did Joran say that pay phone was?  Anyone?

[Tamikosmom]

Janet - MF posted it at RU without a reference link (big surprise).  I suspect it's in one of the Dutch papers but can't be certain which.

Thanks Klaas.

[blah]

Monday, 4 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 37: Joran's lawyer offers a talk between him and the prosecutors, Makes weak excuses, Joran is addicted to gambling, in debt
 
Joran's Dutch Lawyer is making excuses for Joran now. He's apparently a pathological liar and needed money for his gambling addiction, and this is why he told the 'lies' about Natalee's disappearance. De Vries has 'twisted' the evidence in his advantage.

Hans Mos and a Law psychologist have just joined the discussion and are not buying it. There argument is that the other evidence fits the story, and the main part that's interesting is the 'missing' part of the story between Ntalee dying and "Daury" showing up to dispose of the body.

Hans Mos has just claimed that the 'Daury' that appeared in the papers yesterday is a different one. The last names, beeped in the show, are different. Hans Mos has already contacted the 'real' Daury. He's hoping that Joran will help them with what actually happened this time.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/2008/02/natalee-holloway-update-37-jorans.html

If there is a real Daury, this thing is SOOOOO OVER!!!!

Pick up Daury, cut him a sweet deal - even immunity, let him hang Joran out to dry.

Joran - its OVER.  You are going down and Taco's going with you!!!

I only pray Daury has the goods on the sweaty bastard too!!

[thirdstrike]

He's a dead man walking, TS. You know when the peaceful Dutch populace are pissed he's in trouble. He's gonna pay the Piper every day he walks this earth and in eternal Hell thereafter.

Is that what's happening Dayhiker?  Is there already negative reaction towards him in Holland? 

[oldfart]

Now where exactly did Joran say that pay phone was?  Anyone?

Lala's
chances are it will not matter... the Keystone ALE  prob. did not check pay phone records or all island records for that 6-10 hr time frame... and now of course they are long gone.
JMO

[sirensong]

I was so  mad, I forgot to say HIYA to everyone, and WELCOME to all the  new  Monkeys.  This cage is the best place in the  world to  be. 

  Quote Joran "They know its a piece of shit. From how I got my scar to everything"   What in the hell?   What scar and how DID he get it.   Would like to know more about that; we  know he lies to his parents about everything.

[Buckeye]

From a Dutch blog

"Enkele weken geleden sprak ik met een van de broers Kalpoe. Ze wonen aan de Hooiberg in Santa Cruz Aruba en ik ken hun vader erg goed die in het hotelwezen van Aruba werkzaam is. Deze broers zijn er door Joran bij betrokken terwijl ze er werkelijk helemaal niks mee te maken hebben gehad. Joran stond bekend als rokkenjager, hij ging er prat op om zoveel mogelijk vrouwen te versieren en hield daar zelfs een boekje voor bij met alle namen, data en tijdstippen. Joran schuwde het heimelijke gebruik van GHB ook niet als een meisje niet snel genoeg op zijn advances in ging. Volgens een van de broertjes noemde Joran dat zijn "love-potion" en als het hem niet snel genoeg ging wast het "love-potion no. 9" erin als het meisje niet keek of als Joran zelf een drankje ging halen.

"Single weeks I ago spoke with one of the brothers Kalpoe.  They live at the Haystack in Santa Cruz Aruba and I know their father very good that in the hotel being of Aruba actively is.  These brothers are to make had there by Joran by concerned meanwhile they it really totally nothing with.  Joran stood known as skirts hunter, he was proud to decorate of so much possible women and held that even a bow for by with all names, data and moments.  Joran shunned not went the secret use of GHB also not as a girl fast enough on its advances in. According to one of the brothers named Joran that are "love-potion" and as it him not fast enough went wast the "love-potion no.  9" in it as the girl looked not or wanted to get as a Joran self a drink. 

http://misdaadjournalist.web-log.nl/

[Kermit]

TENNIS SHOES TO RIGHT


MANGROVES


PHOTO source: Blonde as seen in National Enquirer

[thirdstrike]

Now where exactly did Joran say that pay phone was?  Anyone?

Lala's
chances are it will not matter... the Keystone ALE  prob. did not check pay phone records or all island records for that 6-10 hr time frame... and now of course they are long gone.
JMO

The key to this whole thing is locating this accomplice to the disposal of Natalee's remains.  If they can locate him, and can persuade him to testify, I'd assume that's pretty much all the corroboration they would need to convict.  Of course, if my sister had certain body parts, she'd be my brother, so...

[ciskebab]

the Payphone was at the Marriot next to the pool.

The link to the chat session is here http://www.dag.nl/Nieuws/Artikelpagina-Nieuws/Van-der-Sloot-donderdag-naar-politie.htm. In this post is is also said that he will be going to the police on thursday.

[blah]

LYNCH MOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bleachedblack]

oran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 14, 2005

 .... On the way there I saw a lot of people. I did not go to Fisherman's Hut to see if Natalee was still lying there. I at that moment was more worried about the shoes that I had left behind because I was unaware that Natalee had gone missing. At approximately 19.45 pm I arrived at the Aruba Grant Hotel & Casino.



Robert Ainsworth is the Green River Killer and he also always went back to where he had killed and left his victim dead.

Joran did the same thing.

[thirdstrike]

the Payphone was at the Marriot next to the pool.

The link to the chat session is here http://www.dag.nl/Nieuws/Artikelpagina-Nieuws/Van-der-Sloot-donderdag-naar-politie.htm. In this post is is also said that he will be going to the police on thursday.

What is he going to the police for?  If it's not to give a full, official confession, then what's the point?  He's had plenty of chances to talk already.  Why does he feel the need to talk now?