Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 - 2/5/08am

[BUCKSHOT]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

[MissinNat]

Hi All!

Will Aruba wake up and have Joran arrested?

MissinNat

[Blonde]

That cement drainage culvert with the sneakers are on the right side of the road leading away from the Marriott in the direction of the California lighthouse. On the left- side of the road is the ocean and the boat launch.If that were a body in the bag it would have to be lifted from the culvert, carried across the street, down a dirt road, across the sand beach to a possible waiting boat.

Must be why 3 kids were seen sweaty, and dirty (not what I would wear to a casino!) at a certain point in time....


COULD THIS BE WATER SPOT IN THE ROAD FROM THE PICK UP

Exactly.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Anita knows she is responsible for Paulus and Joran being the weak crooks they are, codependent on her.  She does not want them to see 20/20.  She has probably donned a see-thru peignoir and put the Woodstock cassettes on the tape player to distract from what she has created.  Anita, pour up Paulus another stiff scotch, he's going to need it when Daury comes knocking on your door.

I wouldn't doubt she'll light up a dooby, too.   

[bleachedblack]

That cement drainage culvert with the sneakers are on the right side of the road leading away from the Marriott in the direction of the California lighthouse. On the left- side of the road is the ocean and the boat launch.If that were a body in the bag it would have to be lifted from the culvert, carried across the street, down a dirt road, across the sand beach to a possible waiting boat.

THANKS BLEACHED ,I KNOW YOU WERE THERE RIGHT?
 I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION

Yep

http://family.webshots.com/album/552851023UfiXEn

[Dihannah1]

Nancy Grace makes a very good point.

It makes more sense that Natalee would die from a delayed reaction from being drugged at the bar (taking 2 or 3 hours) rather than just dying abruptly for no apparent reason on the beach with Joran where he says she was fine and just died suddenly

I just got my 'puter back and it was killing me cause I couldn't post I was watching Nancy too.  She made alot of good points!
Love Nancy!  She said it like it was, the solved case was just "HANDED TO THE LE ON A SILVER PLATTER"! 

[SunnyinTX]

Hi SunnyinTx!!!  Great to see you too!  It's like a reunion here tonight.

When NG was on a break I flipped around and O'Reilly had Greta.  She didn't look too good!  Shoulda seen the expression.  She knows she screwed up big by "tending to believe him"!  Now she looks disgusted with him. 

O'Reilly said 2-3 times he would like to get his hands on him (Joran).  He said, "I'd go to prison, just to get my hands on him." 

i'd love to see bill get his hands on him

[ala_gunslinger]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

That would be mr. kalpoe.

[klaasend]

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[Observer]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

His name is Fransisco and he was interviewed twice by Art Wood. He was the Guy that was placed in the Mental Institution and said he helped bury natalee with two others in a shallow grave..One of the guys worked at the Marriott..Friends of his told Art he is not crazy,but everything he says matches up with others. I think the other witness was Bubali(sp)and he witnessed it as well as a tourist staying at the Marriott. It may have been Bubali who said he saw them struggling to take her out of the garbage cans and then placed her in a tarp before the white PU.

Remember there is also a lady who saw 3 sweaty boys with a shovel on the northern end of the island also.

[justinsmama]

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[blah]

Nancy Grace makes a very good point.

It makes more sense that Natalee would die from a delayed reaction from being drugged at the bar (taking 2 or 3 hours) rather than just dying abruptly for no apparent reason on the beach with Joran where he says she was fine and just died suddenly

I just got my 'puter back and it was killing me cause I couldn't post I was watching Nancy too.  She made alot of good points!
Love Nancy!  She said it like it was, the solved case was just "HANDED TO THE LE ON A SILVER PLATTER"! 

I have to admit, she did a good job but I really dont like her and dont watch her show.  Especially after she all but strung Mark Lundsford up and hanged him

[BUCKSHOT]

Will the Aru-bay photographer ever be interviewed? Seems like they photographed most of the important scenes (summer 2005). How about Shango? Simian?

[Blonde]

That cement drainage culvert with the sneakers are on the right side of the road leading away from the Marriott in the direction of the California lighthouse. On the left- side of the road is the ocean and the boat launch.If that were a body in the bag it would have to be lifted from the culvert, carried across the street, down a dirt road, across the sand beach to a possible waiting boat.

My only question is..If that is Natalee in the bag and that was filmed on June 10th 2005,that means she had been dead for 11-12 days..She certainly would not look like that after that long period,she would be decomposing and it would be a awful site.

The only way that could be her..


1.She was kept in a freezer during that time
2.She did not die on May 30th 2005 but at a much later date.
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I still find this post strange about finding a large empty plastic bag at Canashito. Everyone knows there was a confession leading them to the body,but they also said she was at this location. We all know the next day that was all dismissed as mis-information.

******* JUST BECAUSE they posted this video on june 10th doesn't mean that was when they taped it .JMO

[2NJSons_Mom]

Nancy was saying the only thing she questions is the series of shaking and she stopped breathing (she doesn't believe it).  She said he murdered her.

Go Nancy.

I never watch her but I did tonight...I saw that and also was pleased she stood up to that guy (don't know his name) who was saying oo one believed Joran's 'confession'. 

[Dihannah1]

I'm getting ready for 20/20 soon, but taping Greta, cause I want to see what she says after looking like a fool and losing 'her' story from being a traitor to Beth! .  Good thing is, I can fastfoward past Taco if necessary 

She has been slammed on her blog, I want to see how she deals with it... or continues her stupidity at the expense of viewers.   I KNOW,  most think I'm crazy, but can't help it!

[ala_gunslinger]

WELCOME BACK TO ALL LONG TIME MEMBERS - AND WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW!

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[cubbeegirl]

Hi monks.... I finally got caught up from where I had to leave off early this afternoon...phewwww..... like in the early days in the beginning of this case... hard to catch up once you get behind....I thoroughly enjoyed Nancy Grace tonight and am awaiting 20/20....

Hopefully something will happen to those who hurt Natalee this time, but if no legal ramifications are met ,I feel that Joran's life is going to be a living hell anyway,
and I will not lose one nights sleep over it....

[Dayhiker]

Hi All!

Will Aruba wake up and have Joran arrested?

MissinNat

A guy on Nancy's show said they were going to be forced to take it to trial, the taped evidence is too damning.

Of course, he doesn't know the Aruban judges like we do.

[JusticeDawg]

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