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« Reply #260 on: February 04, 2008, 09:11:07 PM »

Hiya anidac. Long time no see.

Here is a link for translated version of the Peter deVries tapes:

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

Thanks you Yapper.

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« Reply #261 on: February 04, 2008, 09:11:22 PM »

In this latest version, has urine Joran said how he got "home" from the beach?

I think some of the stuff that Joran said in the tapes is probably factual, but I also think a lot of other stuff he said is made-up stuff.

I'm still not sure as to which "beach" they disposed of Natalee's body. Even in this last version, Joran mentions about her wanting to see the sharks, and I'm wondering why that tidbit keeps popping up. Maybe that's the "beach" that was actually used.

In any case, guess soon we'll hear of Greta van susteren again saying: "I'm inclined to believe him (Joran)" but she never says which lies of his she believes. Maybe Greta believes everything Joran has said. . . .

Back to the main question that I had: Did Joran say how he got "home" from the "beach" in this version?

Thanks.

I think he HOPPED home.

He is too embrassed to tell anyone he is a toad.





It all a lie again, do not fall for this stories.
I post couple a week ago that the these kid have a game going on call " I did not lie, It's you that believed me"

meaning what you believe is a lie

the time is a problem for them.....What ever stories they create, you have to start from 1:00 am.

till 4:00 am where is father pick him up at The Mc Donald at food.


that leave 2:30 hour to work with.

party a bit more, have sex, go to the beach, swim, walk to a telephone boot, call an invisible friend to help, now the friend needs to sail out, dump, come back, and leave still time to go back to the casino.

About the shoe, The only way you loose your sneaker in when you step in muddy soft surface where when you feet sinks, the mud will create a suction around your sneaker and when you lift you feed the sneaker is left behind.

In salt water and soft white sand it does not happend: This is from experience.

this is telling me that they never went to the beach...it mist be a pond where there is mud.





The other day I clicked on a link someone posted to another forum, when I looked at the chat someone was saying "All they needed to do was look in Moko's Pond" or something close to that affect.  Does Moko's pond ring a bell with anyone?  Just curious...and btw, hello everyone...It seems I'm about 6 pages behind lol
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« Reply #262 on: February 04, 2008, 09:11:41 PM »

Will the Aru-bay photographer ever be interviewed? Seems like they photographed most of the important scenes (summer 2005). How about Shango? Simian?

If I might opine, Who was the photographer found with his hand in his pocket?
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« Reply #263 on: February 04, 2008, 09:12:24 PM »

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Although GHB traditionally has been considered a potent epileptogenic drug and has been noted to cause epileptiform EEGs in animals, a few human volunteer studies have failed to demonstrate EEG changes associated with use. However, case reports commonly report seizures or seizurelike activity in persons ingesting the drug. It is theorized that myoclonic jerks of the face and extremities may be mistaken for evidence of seizures.
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« Reply #264 on: February 04, 2008, 09:12:26 PM »

When I showed this picture to my Dr. he said it was a fresh dead girl.
They could have taked this video when the S Guards were in jail to prove they were not the ones who did this .This was posted on June 10th we don't know when it was taped.
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« Reply #265 on: February 04, 2008, 09:12:55 PM »

"SILVER PLATTER"!  Only problem is the idiots on Aruba think a silver platter is something to hock!!!  MOO  
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« Reply #266 on: February 04, 2008, 09:13:14 PM »

WELCOME BACK TO ALL LONG TIME MEMBERS - AND WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW!


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« Reply #267 on: February 04, 2008, 09:13:55 PM »

That cement drainage culvert with the sneakers are on the right side of the road leading away from the Marriott in the direction of the California lighthouse. On the left- side of the road is the ocean and the boat launch.If that were a body in the bag it would have to be lifted from the culvert, carried across the street, down a dirt road, across the sand beach to a possible waiting boat.
My only question is..If that is Natalee in the bag and that was filmed on June 10th 2005,that means she had been dead for 11-12 days..She certainly would not look like that after that long period,she would be decomposing and it would be a awful site.

The only way that could be her..
1.She was kept in a freezer during that time
2.She did not die on May 30th 2005 but at a much later date.
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I still find this post strange about finding a large empty plastic bag at Canashito. Everyone knows there was a confession leading them to the body,but they also said she was at this location. We all know the next day that was all dismissed as mis-information.


I posted a response to bleachedblack this afternoon saying something similar.  If he called for help that night, it was days before the security guards were arrested.  Then, the arubay films were made puportedly to support their innocence....so, I couldn't comprehend how Natalee could have been in that drain for a long period of time....
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« Reply #268 on: February 04, 2008, 09:14:14 PM »

WELCOME BACK TO ALL LONG TIME MEMBERS - AND WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW!



We are all here for a reason..   Whenever two or more are gathered in his name.

Thanks for the opportunity.
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« Reply #269 on: February 04, 2008, 09:14:38 PM »

WELCOME BACK TO ALL LONG TIME MEMBERS - AND WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW!


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« Reply #270 on: February 04, 2008, 09:14:50 PM »

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Patrick forgot that there are no mangroves in the area of the fisherman's hut.... 


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So where are there mangroves?
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« Reply #271 on: February 04, 2008, 09:14:52 PM »

I'm standing on Jorans fat head with one foot on his throat 
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« Reply #272 on: February 04, 2008, 09:15:25 PM »

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CNS depression is the hallmark of GHB use. An oral dose of 10 mg/kg produces short-term amnesia and hypotonia; 20-30 mg/kg produces drowsiness and sleep. After ingestion of approximately 50-70 mg/kg, profound hypnosis and deep coma rapidly ensue. GHB quickly initiates delta wave and rapid eye movement (REM) sleep and produces moderate amnesia but does not produce analgesia or muscle relaxation. It decreases cerebral glucose metabolism and increases cerebral blood flow, yet it reduces intracranial pressure. Myoclonic jerks and respiratory depression accompany the descent into anesthesia.

She was not dead!
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« Reply #273 on: February 04, 2008, 09:16:44 PM »

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Patrick forgot that there are no mangroves in the area of the fisherman's hut.... 


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So where are there mangroves?

MF is an idiot

Joran didnt know what the bushes are called and just agreed with whatever Patrick called them

nice try at though
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« Reply #274 on: February 04, 2008, 09:16:57 PM »

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

Shoe lost in mud works for me. Very early on, a tv station mentioned hearsay of someone wanting to replace the match for a particular type of shoe, worn by Joran. He only had one. Maybe they were replacing (buying new) lost shoes.

Joran crying in jail, broken down, and confessing early on... This has gone on so long - he must be completely numb to emotion at this point. A lot of weight for a 18-20 year old kid to carry around with so much international scrutiny.


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« Reply #275 on: February 04, 2008, 09:18:09 PM »

The show starts in 13 minutes for everyone in the East and Central time zones!!
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« Reply #276 on: February 04, 2008, 09:18:34 PM »

Will the Aru-bay photographer ever be interviewed? Seems like they photographed most of the important scenes (summer 2005). How about Shango? Simian?

The aru-bay videographer is hidden under Joran's grandmother's glockenspiel. No Joke!
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« Reply #277 on: February 04, 2008, 09:18:59 PM »

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

Shoe lost in mud works for me. Very early on, a tv station mentioned hearsay of someone wanting to replace the match for a particular type of shoe, worn by Joran. He only had one. Maybe they were replacing (buying new) lost shoes.

Joran crying in jail, broken down, and confessing early on... This has gone on so long - he must be completely numb to emotion at this point. A lot of weight for a 18-20 year old kid to carry around with so much international scrutiny.




Well it is about to get much heavier.  He has NO IDEA.  In 12 minutes his life will be forever changed when America tunes in and hears what he has to say.

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« Reply #278 on: February 04, 2008, 09:19:48 PM »

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Welcome JusticeDawg and all NEW Monkeys!

I sure hope Beth is reading here or a family member/friend lets her know how many people here alone are poring in to STAND WITH THE GIRL
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« Reply #279 on: February 04, 2008, 09:20:01 PM »


I posted a response to bleachedblack this afternoon saying something similar.  If he called for help that night, it was days before the security guards were arrested.  Then, the arubay films were made puportedly to support their innocence....so, I couldn't comprehend how Natalee could have been in that drain for a long period of time....
If they filmed it on June 5th the day they arrested the security guards that means Natalee was still deceased for a week.
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