Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 - 2/5/08am

[justinsmama]

CNS depression is the hallmark of GHB use. An oral dose of 10 mg/kg produces short-term amnesia and hypotonia; 20-30 mg/kg produces drowsiness and sleep. After ingestion of approximately 50-70 mg/kg, profound hypnosis and deep coma rapidly ensue. GHB quickly initiates delta wave and rapid eye movement (REM) sleep and produces moderate amnesia but does not produce analgesia or muscle relaxation. It decreases cerebral glucose metabolism and increases cerebral blood flow, yet it reduces intracranial pressure. Myoclonic jerks and respiratory depression accompany the descent into anesthesia.

She was not dead!

I believe it is the combination of GHB and ETOH that are often what make it lethal.

Yes, bb, that is what the article also reported.

[ala_gunslinger]

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

A massive head injury or a gunshot..Something like that..I don't think she was hit by the car but we can't rule anything out at this point. Remember there was reports about large amounts of blood in Deepaks trunk as well.

Gunshot?  Where have I heard that someone had a pistol (GUN)?

[Buckeye]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

Remember the person who said they saw Joran bring Natalee into the water?  They didn't believe the person or he was a foreigner or something?  He was in a car.  Heard a girl protesting.   Then Joran brought her out to the water?  Am I wrong?

Carlos the "frozen condom" witness.  A different person.

[yapperz1]

I'M STANDING WITH THE GIRL, NATALEE HOLLOWAY

 ME TOO!!!!!!!!!

[chimes]

. . . and in the intense beginning from mixing our monkey minds together, we were actually pretty much on target with our detailed theories! . . . and here we are still stuck together in monkey love mud.     

[Dayhiker]

MF
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:03 pm   

Patrick forgot that there are no mangroves in the area of the fisherman's hut.... 


.................
So where are there mangroves?

MF is an idiot

Joran didnt know what the bushes are called and just agreed with whatever Patrick called them

nice try at though

Grasping at straws. Taco and Joran's Holland lawyer have been doing it all day.

[tidycat]

Well, D2K obviously know what happened because they told him in the car tape that "if they find the girl you'll get 15 years."  So they would find, evidence of GHB, plus whatever else; or semin; or bruises, etc. from being beaten up.  That's why he didn't want her body found. 

[ala_gunslinger]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

Remember the person who said they saw Joran bring Natalee into the water?  They didn't believe the person or he was a foreigner or something?  He was in a car.  Heard a girl protesting.   Then Joran brought her out to the water?  Am I wrong?

Carlos the "frozen condom" witness.  A different person.

How does this fit?

[Buckeye]

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

A massive head injury or a gunshot..Something like that..I don't think she was hit by the car but we can't rule anything out at this point. Remember there was reports about large amounts of blood in Deepaks trunk as well.

Gunshot?  Where have I heard that someone had a pistol (GUN)?

I thought blood was inside car and headliner..haven't heard trunk. 

Joran mentions Satish's gun in the police car tape.

[Buckeye]

My theory is Natalee was put in the shallow grave then moved out to sea after the Family arrived. Joran places himself at the Marriott and that is exactly where the witnesses said they saw people moving a womans body into a tarp then to a white PU. We even have a person that said he helped bury her in a shallow grave.

*******, or others,

Who is the person that confessed to helping bury Natalee in a shallow grave? NAME.
 

Remember the person who said they saw Joran bring Natalee into the water?  They didn't believe the person or he was a foreigner or something?  He was in a car.  Heard a girl protesting.   Then Joran brought her out to the water?  Am I wrong?

Carlos the "frozen condom" witness.  A different person.

How does this fit?

It doesn't in the above.

[justinsmama]

Well, D2K obviously know what happened because they told him in the car tape that "if they find the girl you'll get 15 years."  So they would find, evidence of GHB, plus whatever else; or semin; or bruises, etc. from being beaten up.  That's why he didn't want her body found. 

And of the brutal rapes.

[ldstlou]

I'M STANDING WITH THE GIRL, NATALEE HOLLOWAY

Amen, we are standing with you all!!!

[Nut44x4]

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

A massive head injury or a gunshot..Something like that..I don't think she was hit by the car but we can't rule anything out at this point. Remember there was reports about large amounts of blood in Deepaks trunk as well.

Gunshot?  Where have I heard that someone had a pistol (GUN)?

Satish had a gun.
IMO...no gun was involved.

[Observer]

Question: What type of injury would have caused so much blood? Deepaks car.

A massive head injury or a gunshot..Something like that..I don't think she was hit by the car but we can't rule anything out at this point. Remember there was reports about large amounts of blood in Deepaks trunk as well.

Gunshot?  Where have I heard that someone had a pistol (GUN)?

Dunno..I know Rob heard a story about someone using a gun on Natalee. 

[Dayhiker]

ABC 20/20 COMING UP!

[Frijole]

Well, it's "show time" for Joran's USA Debut -

 I don't think I am prepared for this... I am going to get very mad and upset.  Think I might need an adult beverage.  Hang in there monks. 

Arubans, are you watching?  This is your "son".  Do the right thing. NOW

[chimes]

. . . remember the peculiar painted rocks?

[Buckeye]

The one security guard's PV talks about tourists seeing two guys moving a girl to a truck or car.

[cubbeegirl]

Well, D2K obviously know what happened because they told him in the car tape that "if they find the girl you'll get 15 years."  So they would find, evidence of GHB, plus whatever else; or semin; or bruises, etc. from being beaten up.  That's why he didn't want her body found. 

And of the brutal rapes.

I agree....

Hey there justins and tidycat! Hey to all the monkeys who are here who I haven't "seen'
in awhile,and hey to all the new monkeys....

Justins, I have been bothered since we first heard that Natalee might not have been dead,
her poor family to have to think of that for the rest of their lives....
String Joran up... hanging at high noon!

[cj123]

Is 20/20 airing in Aruba tonight?