Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 - 2/5/08am

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Welcome to all the new monkey people. Not being rude.. moving along fast in here like long ago!

ROB.. I see yah again. HI and whatcha think about the show and hearing JVDS spew his shit??

[BlueBob]

Hey, Klaas!  You are a true patriot!!  You have worked really hard.  Congrats to you and Red and Mrs. R. for driving this bus so far!!

[Lala'sMom]

Did I see Bluebob??  My mentor?  The Wise One?  Wow!!

[cubbeegirl]

He pulled the name Duary out of his butt... the very telling thing that jvds said among the other things was that " my parents didn't help me".... that came out of no where without any reason.... sublimal slip - you know sort of like "my friend's dream" or "my friend's symptons".... ya know.. Red and I dropped our mouths open and just kind of flipped .... so it is true...

Duary... = PVDS... no doubt in my mind now... 

That's why I think he used the word "man."  I wonder what he did for/with him "since kids."  Cover up a dog murder, buy him porn, go gambling with him...

I'm kinda thinking that by that time he was starting to feel a little paranoid and like maybe he had told this guy too much , so he pulled something out of thin air...

Of course he was..He just said he would take the guys name to the grave with him a short time before..When they were in the car next time Patrick ask's again and he blurted out Daury in one second..

Yep, I could kinda almost tell it in his demeanor in that part.... he knew he screwed up and ran his mouth when he shouldn't have.....

[Rob]

Maybe I'm the biggest idiot to ever travel to Aruba... but ... but..

why ALL THIS over Joran's little "accidental death" ????

I am still not convinced the Sloot house is not involved. They want the crime away from that house.

[crazybabyborg]

 Traumatic head injuries, such as those sustained in automobile accidents or serious sports injuries, can cause seizures.

Head Injury?

[Lala'sMom]

What did ALE know and when did they know it?

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
A substance was given to victim without knowledge. Substance served purpose … victim came to … suspect panics .. in an attempt to quiet victim, “something bad happens”

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:52 pm
Lily we are working 24 hrs to bring this to a resolution.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
No that’s not what it means Kristin. Premeditated requires planning. This was an accident perpetuated by a mallace act. It’s what happened after, that was premeditated …

[pinkbanana]

Good Night Monkeys....I'm going to try to get some sleep.

Thank You ALL for being you!
God Bless.
I TOO STAND WITH THE GIRL.

d

[mrs. red]

Oh I do want to welcome all of the new monkeys...

there are so many "old" monkeys who it's good to see too...

Like Puma says... who quoting margaret mead...

never forget that a group of committed citizens can change things...

OK I am tired, so I paraphrased!

[Kermit]

by Fishermen's Huts

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Maybe I'm the biggest idiot to ever travel to Aruba... but ... but..

why ALL THIS over Joran's little "accidental death" ????

I am still not convinced the Sloot house is not involved. They want the crime away from that house.

 

 I ant agree with you that you were an idiot when you went to Aruba. You probably didn't know then how bad things were.. maybe some THINGS.. but not this shit.
 I also agree.. The SLOOT dump is where it happened. I do NOT believe the beach story.. and.. I know.. you have always said something about PVDS and the phonecall? I cant recall your words 100%. 

[BlueBob]

Hi, Mrs. Red and Cubbee!!  I have missed you guys.  I had to get back over here and tell you all congrats.  This case I think made history. . .it was the first time (that I am aware of) that a forum like this was used interactively on such a wide basis to assist in solving a crime.  You guys should all be very proud of what was accomplished here.  You are pioneers!!

[Sue]

lets hope JQK is researching that avenue of  civil suit against Joran
from the Nederlands

[Bearlyhere]

OMG - you aren't going to believe this.  Posted by MF at RU - no link to the article in Dutch of course:

Is he saying Natalee was allergic to Joran's semen? 

Did Dan Riehl write that? 

 How gross.. !!  Allergic to Semen. I have HEARD it all now.. 

Yesterday, he mentions her getting him off.  He said he realized she was dead and he was just going to ask her for a bj.  I think that is another place where he gave too much info.  He didn't have to say what he says he never got.  We all know from his old girlfriend--who is pro Joran, that Joran likes rough sex. 

The rest is not for the weak stomached.

I think he was forcing himself in her mouth and she vomited.  I think she choked both on him and her vomit.   

I think he is that vile, to do that.

[Red]

This story Joran is telling now. . .a good bit of it is true. . .I believe the parts about Natalee going into a jerking episode/coma.  But if you analyze what he is saying, he has  now drafted it in a way to make himself not guilty of anything (in his screwed up mind, anyway).  That is why he says he left her and somebody else disposed of her.  His story is a way to brag that he did these things, and that she wanted him, but still to maintain his innocence.  He just got wrapped up in the story and added a bit more truth than he intended.

There is a lot more to the story, no doubt.  And the friend is probably his father.

OMG ... Its a Blue Bob sighting. Hey there.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Good Night Monkeys....I'm going to try to get some sleep.

Thank You ALL for being you!
God Bless.
I TOO STAND WITH THE GIRL.

d

 HAve a great night Dmprs

[Observer]

Maybe I'm the biggest idiot to ever travel to Aruba... but ... but..

why ALL THIS over Joran's little "accidental death" ????

I am still not convinced the Sloot house is not involved. They want the crime away from that house.

Because it brought world wide attention to what a dirtbag Joran is and that he indeed knows what happened. Very different then what the sporter told the TV cameras in other interviews. Everyone should know they were at the Sloot house and PVDS was involved,he can talk about the beach all he likes but the bullseye remains on that house,the father and the son.

[Kermit]

Traumatic head injuries, such as those sustained in automobile accidents or serious sports injuries, can cause seizures.

Head Injury?

The three were held on suspicion of manslaughter, or assault and battery resulting in Holloway's death, authorities have said.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Hi, Mrs. Red and Cubbee!!  I have missed you guys.  I had to get back over here and tell you all congrats.  This case I think made history. . .it was the first time (that I am aware of) that a forum like this was used interactively on such a wide basis to assist in solving a crime.  You guys should all be very proud of what was accomplished here.  You are pioneers!!

 Hi yah BB  great to see yah !!



WHERE IS ROBOTS ?   

[BlueBob]

Hey, Lala'smom!  It is indeed the Supreme Blueness here.  So good to hear from you. . . .with or without a tiara!!