Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 - 2/5/08am

[CapsLockWizard]

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That is what they wanted, for the world to believe him and then go superior court and found not guilty and then sue the goverment of Aruba, for slander, etc

But there is more ..... they have not gone to the ocean according to Shango...2005

What was discovert today, Shango said it in 2005

[San]

"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag," van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.

THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy..  I STILL think he killed ker.     BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?     

I think she was most likely dead and he knows it. The blood was due to something.
He would have just left her on the beach like all the other girls he victimized and raped except he couldn't
this time because of what he did that caused her death.

I agree Kermit.

[Kermit]

excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget 

Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have. 




my job is done here..

be well



Robots 

Amen to everything you said, but I don't think our work is quite over. We need to still FIND Natalee and make sure ALL of those involved are exposed. In my books -- the boycott is JUST BEGINNING.

I agree - just the tip of the iceberg.

LET IT FALL

[Observer]

If Joran went to sleep after he got home and signed on the computer, who downloaded the porn?  Checked the sports scores?   Did email?

Who fixed a snack and took a shower?

When did he have time to sleep that morning?

LOL! He didn't sleep very long if he went to school and he wasn't the one on the computer either,at least not the whole time he says he was..Val was just on before that on his virtual x-plane site..I have the feeling Freddy and others were all at that house that night and on his computer. I really wonder what day it was that he took the bus by Lorenzos house? Would be quite interesting if it was the 30th to the 1st!
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Hi Angie!! I hope all is well with you 

[tidycat]

Hi Cubbee, I caught your hello a few pages back.  It's great to "see" you too!  We KNEW this day would come didn't we!  Our prayers have been answered!

Red thank you for that beautiful letter and thanks to you for setting this up as a place where we could all be involved in this search for the truth.  Hopefully the monkeys did make a difference.

[klaasend]

i wish i would've taped it.

i thought i heard it said that the friends boat was one that was in the water already that night?

did anybody else hear that?  it was when they showed the boats sitting in the water near shore.

Noly - I'm sure that Carpe taped it and it will be on Youtube in segments probably by tomorrow.

[Kermit]

"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag," van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.

THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy..  I STILL think he killed ker.     BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?     

I think she was most likely dead and he knows it. The blood was due to something.
He would have just left her on the beach like all the other girls he victimized and raped except he couldn't
this time because of what he did that caused her death.

I agree Kermit.

Hey San - good to see you among thousands of monkeys on here tonight.

 

[Frank]

obviously I'm biased but for me, john kelly and Greta pointing out that the police knew she had a seizure when Beth arrived on the island, they were asked about this many times.

The word corruption is finally being thrown around by the media.

My sideline friends and family who have general knowledge are in shock.

This is a good thing. We need to stay focused on PVDS.

[San]

He pulled the name Duary out of his butt... the very telling thing that jvds said among the other things was that " my parents didn't help me".... that came out of no where without any reason.... sublimal slip - you know sort of like "my friend's dream" or "my friend's symptons".... ya know.. Red and I dropped our mouths open and just kind of flipped .... so it is true...

Duary... = PVDS... no doubt in my mind now... 

I hope Paulus sleeps with one eye open.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag," van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.

THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy..  I STILL think he killed ker.     BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?     

I think she was most likely dead and he knows it. The blood was due to something.
He would have just left her on the beach like all the other girls he victimized and raped except he couldn't
this time because of what he did that caused her death.

 Froggy..........
 After hearing him talk about getting rid of his damn shoes.. I agree.. there is SOMETHING on those suckers. I hope to GAWD someone finds them.

[pinkbanana]

Did anyone else catch when Joran said, " When I was done." ? Done with what??
That comment is driving me nuts.

d

[Red]

Just a programming reminder for tomorrow night


Jug Twitty will be one of Dana's guests on tomorrow nights show at 9pm edt.

JUG TWITTY ON SM RADIO ... JUG TWITTY ON SM RADIO ... JUG TWITTY ON SM RADIO 

[cubbeegirl]

If Joran went to sleep after he got home and signed on the computer, who downloaded the porn?  Checked the sports scores?   Did email?

Who fixed a snack and took a shower?

When did he have time to sleep that morning?

LOL! He didn't sleep very long if he went to school and he wasn't the one on the computer either,at least not the whole time he says he was..Val was just on before that on his virtual x-plane site..I have the feeling Freddy and others were all at that house that night and on his computer. I really wonder what day it was that he took the bus by Lorenzos house? Would be quite interesting if it was the 30th to the 1st!
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Hi Angie!! I hope all is well with you 

Weren't we told by some of the Arubans that came on here in the very beginning that Joran slept on the floor all day at school that day and that some of the kids were trying to shake him and wake him up .....or did I dream that....

[Dihannah1]

It was 2/3 of the way through the video..He said it quick and they moved on..Joran I think said it would take years..But I remember him saying his dad had big plans to sue the govt for a fat payoff..I think Joran said Fat twice.. PVDS could be having financial problems..We saw that one person refused to take him as a lawyer..

He can kiss that fat payoff good-bye. I fully expect the Van der Sloots to declare bankruptcy within the next year. I doubt the Aruba mafia wants to throw money at a loud mouth shithead any more.

They've probably already packed and left the island!  No longer safe.  Sadly, they have 2 other sons suffering from there dumbass parents and brother!  Hopefully this will be a lesson to them to turn out ok!  I pray!

[Yellow Ribbon]

Hey Angie, you sexy thang!   

I just had to say that on a night like tonight.

  LMAO  OMG.. its been a LONG time since we said that, huh?
Hey you sexy thang back at yah YR !!  Hope all has been well with you !!  Great to see yah !! 

I've been fine and hope you have been well. It has been a while. Of course you have 9500 more posts!

It was great to see Beth lean into that camera tonight and let Joran know he is in a living hell.

[Observer]

obviously I'm biased but for me, john kelly and Greta pointing out that the police knew she had a seizure when Beth arrived on the island, they were asked about this many times.

The word corruption is finally being thrown around by the media.

My sideline friends and family who have general knowledge are in shock.

This is a good thing. We need to stay focused on PVDS.

It's about time!! I guess it's better late then ever that the media would pick up on this..Everyone should be focused on PVDS..All 3 countries!!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag," van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.

THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy..  I STILL think he killed ker.     BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?     

I believe that part is a lie.  He wants you to believe there is a possibily that she was alive because if that is the case he won't be charged with murder.  In my opinion she was never alive.  He was never at the beach and even the ALE said he was never at the beach.

 San.. I dont believee the beach story either.. never have.. I think it all went down at the Sloots house.  PVDS involved too.

[cubbeegirl]

i wish i would've taped it.

i thought i heard it said that the friends boat was one that was in the water already that night?

did anybody else hear that?  it was when they showed the boats sitting in the water near shore.

Noly - I'm sure that Carpe taped it and it will be on Youtube in segments probably by tomorrow.

Noly, I thought I heard that too...

[klaasend]

OMG - you aren't going to believe this.  Posted by MF at RU - no link to the article in Dutch of course:

'Natalee bezweek aan prostaatvocht'
door een onzer verslaggevers

AMSTERDAM - Natalee Holloway is direct na de daad in Joran van der Sloots armen gestorven doordat haar lichaam niet bestand was tegen het prostaatvocht dat Van der Sloot afscheidde. Dat is de stellige overtuiging van de Rotterdamse hoogleraar dermatologie prof. dr. Ernst Stolz (68).

Stolz, voormalig hoofd van de afdeling geslachts- en huidziekten van het Erasmus Medisch Centrum, herkent in de manier waarop Holloway zou zijn gestorven een zeer zeldzame aandoening die hij in zijn 33-jarige loopbaan driemaal tegenkwam. "Deze vrouwen stierven doordat hun lichaam afwijkend reageerde op het prostaatvocht dat met het sperma meekomt. Ze kregen astma-achtige aandoeningen, raakten in shock en stierven. Dit verhaal past precies in dat plaatje", aldus Stolz. Volgens de professor sterven in Duitsland jaarlijks twee vrouwen deze zeldzame dood. "Er zijn zeer weinig vrouwen op wie dit een fatale uitwerking heeft. De effecten zijn zeer uiteenlopend. De een merkt er niets van, krijgt het hooguit wat benauwd, de ander stikt bijna of raakt zelfs in shock."

Stolz kan zich voorstellen dat er geen opzet in het spel is bij de dood van Natalee Holloway: "Het kan heel goed dat het meisje tijdens de daad onwel raakte en stierf. Die jongen wist zich mogelijk geen raad en heeft haar lichaam in paniek weggemaakt. Moet je je voorstellen dat je als jonge jongen opeens met een dode in je armen ligt..."

Through google translator:

"Natalee bezweek to prostaatvocht '
By our reporters

AMSTERDAM - Natalee Holloway is immediately after the act in Joran van der Sloots arms died because her body was not file against prostaatvocht that Van der Sloot afscheidde. That is the firm belief of the Rotterdam dermatology professor prof Dr Ernst Stolz (68).

Stolz, former head of the department of sex and skin of the Erasmus Medical Center, recognizes in the way Holloway would have died a very rare condition in his 33-year career has run three times. "These women died because their bodies reacted to the deviant prostaatvocht that the semen distributed. They got asthma-like disease, were in shock and died. This story fits into that picture," says Stolz. According to the professor dying annually in Germany this rare two women dead. "There are very few women to whom this is a fatal effect. The effects are very different. One observes nothing, gets the most benauwd what, the other stikt almost touches or even shock."

Stolz can imagine that there is no intent in the game in the death of Natalee Holloway: "It may very well that the girl during the act became unwell and died. Die boy knew may not council and has her body in panic weggemaakt. Do you imagine that you as a young boy with a suddenly dead in your arms is ... "



Is he saying Natalee was allergic to Joran's semen? 

[Buckeye]

Joran van der Sloot has now been formally named a suspect in the murder of Natalee Holloway. His statement to the effect that he did not know whether or not she was alive when her body was dumped means the prosecution can and will demand more severe punishments.

Gerard Spong, a prominent Dutch attorney, stated earlier today that there is a very real chance that van der Sloot may win the criminal case, but will be unable to win a civil suit brought by the surviving family members. Since there is an extradition treaty between the Netherlands and the United States, possible damages may be "..far more than he will ever be able to repay. The American system for awarding damages can have devastating results."

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