Natalee Case Discussion #723 2/05/08

[Observer]

We have one possibly two more Arubans joining us here on SM that have just been approved..I have asked him to be civil and I expect the same please. He doesnt understand why some of us are so hostile to Aruba and he is telling me Tourism is down. I have explained to him our point of view and I hope we can be friends and discuss this all appropriately.

Posted by Madmaster


BTW. Can you tell me why Americans are so rude to Aruba?
Before this case many Americans came to the island and now they keep away. Only 5 US cruise ships out of 10 before still entering the harbour of Oranjestad.
Are those people all so hypocrital as I think/know they are? Never heared about the murdered people in their own country which cases are also never solved?

Are you admin at SM? iI so, can you add me to the forum? I'm waiting for approval...

[Buckeye]

They showed the vid on aruba cause after that a lot of people on aruba called in on lorenzo at all local radiostations that was also in the vid i posted when they mentioned lorenzo here on dutch tv

Is there a link to this?

[ciskebab]

I think especially because the people on Aruba called in on the radiostations about lorenzo the ball is now rolling and i think/hope that someone or maybe more will spill the goods.

I think more is coming tomorrow because Joran will meet with Moss here in the netherlands i think he is in the plane over here as we speak cause it is a 10 hour flight. I also am curious what they found/took from the 2 houses, we only know about the Laptop and harddisk.

[cj123]

We have one possibly two more Arubans joining us here on SM that have just been approved..I have asked him to be civil and I expect the same please. He doesnt understand why some of us are so hostile to Aruba and he is telling me Tourism is down. I have explained to him our point of view and I hope we can be friends and discuss this all appropriately.

Posted by Madmaster


BTW. Can you tell me why Americans are so rude to Aruba?
Before this case many Americans came to the island and now they keep away. Only 5 US cruise ships out of 10 before still entering the harbour of Oranjestad.
Are those people all so hypocrital as I think/know they are? Never heared about the murdered people in their own country which cases are also never solved?

Are you admin at SM? iI so, can you add me to the forum? I'm waiting for approval...

I don't think Americans are negative to Arubans, but we are negative towards their law enforcement officials.  We are negative to Arubans only because they aren't as upset about the obvious cover up as we are.

[Nut44x4]

I have a question re: Joran saying Paulus snuck his cell phone into KIA. Was Joran referring to this last time he was in jail?? I ask because we knew he had his phone...remember he logged into MSN and someone at BFN saw him on there while he was in jail.

[Lala'sMom]

"Because I know the details and you don't."  

Dear Jan,

You knew she was dead all along, since the first few days !! Care to share details with us?

Han Mos
[/quote]

I suspect that they are fast friends.

[crazymom]

OT -- Arkansas has had some really bad weather.  Lots of tornadoes in many small towns with many injuries and some deaths.  Please pray for these people.  My family is safe but others are not.

Take cover TN, KY the storms have left Arkansas headed your way!

I will be back soon!

[klaasend]

I have a question re: Joran saying Paulus snuck his cell phone into KIA. Was Joran referring to this last time he was in jail?? I ask because we knew he had his phone...remember he logged into MSN and someone at BFN saw him on there while he was in jail.

Yes, I remember that.  I do think he was referring to the last time recently when he was in jail.

[crazybabyborg]

I have a question re: Joran saying Paulus snuck his cell phone into KIA. Was Joran referring to this last time he was in jail?? I ask because we knew he had his phone...remember he logged into MSN and someone at BFN saw him on there while he was in jail.

Nut? I think Joran said something about that in his own book. I didn't read it, but I seem to remember a post or two about it. Anybody recall that?

[klaasend]

OT -- Arkansas has had some really bad weather.  Lots of tornadoes in many small towns with many injuries and some deaths.  Please pray for these people.  My family is safe but others are not.

Take cover TN, KY the storms have left Arkansas headed your way!

I will be back soon!

How horrible.  They are all in my prayers.

[klaasend]

RED talking to Dana now!

[Dayhiker]

I don't think Americans are negative to Arubans, but we are negative towards their law enforcement officials.  We are negative to Arubans only because they aren't as upset about the obvious cover up as we are.

Many times we do say Aruba when we are meaning the government and leaders. I am concerned that the Aruban people have not spoken out about this in a collective force. It is so obvious this case was covered up. The only time we saw them protest by the Aruban people was against Beth.

[crazybabyborg]

Red's on talking about Joran's inability to keep his mouth shut. I love the fact that he's hung himself by his own tongue.

[cubbeegirl]

OT -- Arkansas has had some really bad weather.  Lots of tornadoes in many small towns with many injuries and some deaths.  Please pray for these people.  My family is safe but others are not.

Take cover TN, KY the storms have left Arkansas headed your way!

I will be back soon!

How horrible.  They are all in my prayers.

Glad to hear that you are safe crazymom.... all are in my prayers...

[Frijole]

I believe that if the Aruban people had heard and read what we have about this case they would be outraged at their own government.  So of course they cannot understand our perspective. We have almost THREE years of minute details that have not been disclosed to them. 

[Dihannah1]

Great show Dana!

Red!  YOU hit the nail on the head!  He can't stand not being in the news or center of attention for long!  Everytime it gets quiet, but who runs there mouth!

[cj123]

I don't think Americans are negative to Arubans, but we are negative towards their law enforcement officials.  We are negative to Arubans only because they aren't as upset about the obvious cover up as we are.

Many times we do say Aruba when we are meaning the government and leaders. I am concerned that the Aruban people have not spoken out about this in a collective force. It is so obvious this case was covered up. The only time we saw them protest by the Aruban people was against Beth.

Yep.  I will never go to Aruba until this case is solved.  Once it is solved, I would definitely go....I wouldn't let my daughter go ever, but I would go

[klaasend]

Someone started a thread at RU:

Daury is Lorenzo R 


Posted by Saucey at RU:

You will all be hearing it soon and the proof.

[Observer]

We have one possibly two more Arubans joining us here on SM that have just been approved..I have asked him to be civil and I expect the same please. He doesnt understand why some of us are so hostile to Aruba and he is telling me Tourism is down. I have explained to him our point of view and I hope we can be friends and discuss this all appropriately.

Posted by Madmaster


BTW. Can you tell me why Americans are so rude to Aruba?
Before this case many Americans came to the island and now they keep away. Only 5 US cruise ships out of 10 before still entering the harbour of Oranjestad.
Are those people all so hypocrital as I think/know they are? Never heared about the murdered people in their own country which cases are also never solved?

Are you admin at SM? iI so, can you add me to the forum? I'm waiting for approval...

I don't think Americans are negative to Arubans, but we are negative towards their law enforcement officials.  We are negative to Arubans only because they aren't as upset about the obvious cover up as we are.

I explained that to him,he thinks Beth acted foolishly but I don't think he is well informed..I have spent the last two days on a dutch forum and they don't know half as much as we do here..I was warned I would be attacked by plants from Aruba that infiltrated the dutch forums and lied,slandered,attacked and spread disinformation all over there boards as well.

[Dayhiker]

Someone started a thread at RU:

Daury is Lorenzo R 


Posted by Saucey at RU:

You will all be hearing it soon and the proof.

Bring it.