Natalee Case Discussion #725 2/6 - 2/7/08

[Miss Scarlet]

I am sure we could go around the mulberry bush on this pic's interpretation as only Jan would know his intentions.

The hands are different colors, which indicates two different nationalities, to me.
The nails of the hands are different, which indicates male and female, to me.

The eyeballs I was referring to are below the surface, not the big EYEBALL(S).

BUCKSHOT,

I see the three smaller sets of eyeballs, (in a non captioned one).  Could it be the four large eyeballs were really a cryptic way of saying pair of dice?  Who did that boat belong to again?

[littletxlady]

good morning klaas and all caged monkeys   

 ot ~ but can you tell me why my little monkey car isn't animated? have i forgotten to do something in my profile? 
tia

If you saved it to your PC, you probably saved it as a .jpg instead of a .gif ....needs to be saved as a .gif to be animated.

thank you dear, but it is a .gif, maybe i should upload it to my photobucket.

[Tamikosmom]

Last nights Greta on youtube thanks to Carpe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkTxqVkPMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OeVAFsnQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhvvoSOARxU

Jug's segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUT-BCiOMQE

Thank you Klaas

Janet

... and thank you Carpe.  You always come through.  You are appreciated.

Janet

[klaasend]

good morning klaas and all caged monkeys   

 ot ~ but can you tell me why my little monkey car isn't animated? have i forgotten to do something in my profile? 
tia

If you saved it to your PC, you probably saved it as a .jpg instead of a .gif ....needs to be saved as a .gif to be animated.

thank you dear, but it is a .gif, maybe i should upload it to my photobucket.

Sometimes the size of the .gif can stop it from being animated but it doesn't look that large.  If you have the ability to make it smaller you could try that.  Whether it's uploaded from your PC or photobucket shouldn't make any difference.

[Anna]

Getagrip has several new articles translated and posted.  Most seem to be frim Diario:

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/kalpoe-brothers-case-against-dr.html

[Anna]

O/T

Last Death Toll I saw was 55.  Please remember all of us in your prayers especially those who lost their lives and their families.

'We Need Your Prayers' -- Southern Communities Devastated by Twisters Mourn, Try to Rebuild
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329267,00.html

[MumInOhio]

Buckeye...Good morning.....Is that painting by van der Straten the one jackb referred to a couple of weeks back? IIRC he said he saw 'something' in it.   TIA


Pair of Dice....someone asked.....sorry I just found it

SANDERS, Ed & Janet – owners of the PAIR-A-DICE travel boat

Miss Scarlet.......I found this over in the Important Docs, thread....

[Frank]

Jossy's silence is very telling...

He will not address this latest corroboration regarding the police activities. How can he continue to defend van der straaten and Janssen?

[littletxlady]

good morning klaas and all caged monkeys   

 ot ~ but can you tell me why my little monkey car isn't animated? have i forgotten to do something in my profile? 
tia

If you saved it to your PC, you probably saved it as a .jpg instead of a .gif ....needs to be saved as a .gif to be animated.

thank you dear, but it is a .gif, maybe i should upload it to my photobucket.

Sometimes the size of the .gif can stop it from being animated but it doesn't look that large.  If you have the ability to make it smaller you could try that.  Whether it's uploaded from your PC or photobucket shouldn't make any difference.

 I'll try that. Much appreciated!

[Tamikosmom]

Lots of the transcripts posted on Greta's page of the Fox website are incomplete.  I think they are listed as partial or excerpts only.  They have always done that for some reason.  I think you can purchase some of the older ones that are now not posted anywhere as well but have wondered if even those have been edited and shortened.

Since Jug was usually the last to speak, lots of his are gone now so I am not surprised that it is this time as well.  Annoying.  Also makes me wonder if Joe T told her to take that down and she did!

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Good Morning Anna

As my cable package does not include the Fox Channel ... I have always relied on Greta's transcripts of her shows in regards to the Natalee Holloway case.

I am not aware of a show where Greta has excluded any guests on her panel in her transcripts until February 4th and 6th show.

Editing is one thing but ... outright exclusion of guest interviews!!!

Janet

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/holloway/weblog/article2033548.ece

Dutch article translated through google:

donderdag 07 februari 2008

'Correct people should behind bars'
By MAAIKE RUEPERT

[WEBLOG ARUBA] Few Arubans are to this day engaged in searching for Natalee Holloway. Businessman Eduardo Mansur is one such exception.
 
Natalee Holloway on the beach of Aruba.
  He helps the family Holloway where he can. He acts as a broker between the Aruban contacts there, and American zoekteams or private detectives acting on behalf of the Holloways Aruba calling.

Mansur hold office in his bar in Palm Beach, where everything and everyone together. As he tells us about the early days nearly three years ago. The days when any tip could be the golden tip. When he reached three times around the whole island has walked.

One of the most memorable tips came from a man who lived of the tip. , "He explained that he had seen people something rolled up in a carpet were dumped at the landfill. He had blond hair and was seen to be sure that it was Natalee.''After thirty days dig dirt, the carpet was Mansur, which includes up a palm tree. ,, The man had palmbladeren for Natalee's hair since. He was probably under the influence of drugs.''

Also Mansur can still recall that there is an arm aanspoelde in Punto Fijo, the Venezuelan place closest to the West Indies. ,, They sent the arm to the lab in Caracas. When we heard nothing more, I check call. What was found? Did they arm in Caracas discarded because it would have been a pelikanenpoot.''The businessman is there to this day convinced that it was an arm. ,, I have seen a picture, and although the quality was bad, it was clearly an arm.''

The Arubaan has grey hairs of the case. Why is he anyway? ,, I want to see the past. The family this tragedy can be closed. I want them their daughter back. And I want the right people behind bars controversy: Joran, his father, the genius behind this cover-up, and some dirty cops.

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM: 

Kloothommel wrote:


An small joke on an National radio show in the Netherlands.

Joran van de Sloot admits that he has commited suicide.

No one believes him anymore.

[Miss Scarlet]

Amigoe Dutch translated through google:

Aruba
Call for Joran and tomorrow (2/7/08) in Netherlands
February 6, 2008, 19:09 (GMT -04:00)




ORANJESTAD - The conversation between Joran van der Sloot and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) has most probably tomorrow(meaning today) Netherlands. That has his lawyer informed Ariean de Bie. Van der Sloot said Monday that he is available again by the police questioning.

Other sources report that even though today there is contact between the judiciary and the suspect of murder of Natalee Holloway. It may have been that Chief Hans Mos at the meeting. Yesterday he 'holiday' left to the Netherlands, according to the PPS.

Meanwhile journalists at Aruba hunting opened on "the real Daury. According to crime reporter Peter R. De Vries, the Holloway case last week gave a new impetus with a undercoveroperatie, the expanded group Daury Rodriguez is not the Daury that Joran meant. In the broadcast of his own research, De Vries surname Daury weggepiept. Daury Rodriguez Monday denied that he was the person that Van der Sloot has helped with the removal of the body of Natalee Holloway. He would have been in the Netherlands when the affair played on Aruba.

According to the local radio station Cool FM and a reporter of the Dutch current affairs Network fits one of Lorenzo R., one half of Joran, but in the profile. He would be in possession of a boat and his name would already in the file-Holloway are up. Peter R. De Vries has confirmed the name of Lorenzo R. Knowing, but does not want to use him for his program. Other media, including in the Dutch program Nova, circulate other names, especially boys who often stop in the 'surfcircuit "for the Fisherman's Hut next to the Marriott hotel.

Peter R. De Vries and Patrick van der Eem, the man who Joran a confession led to hidden cameras, are more in the 'pokercircuit'. According to Van der Eem Joran is addicted to poker. He would, and that has former research Gerold Dompig said in the past, a meritorious pokeraar are nice and regular income through tournaments. The only twenty years old Joran vergokte sometimes euros by 4000 a night playing poker. According to Van der Eem Joran remained until the day of the unveiling bestoken him with mail and SMS messages.

Van der Eem, the Dutch police last year approached, in order to propose Joran to be unmasked after him in a poker game in the casino had met before. Justice doubts that he has signed. In the absence of a special investigative Act (PDO) is the deployment of a burgerinfiltrant virtually impossible to Aruba, unlike in the Netherlands. The use of police infiltrators is' hard 'is possible. "But it's changing," says one initiated in the PPS. "There is a special investigative Act in the pipeline, which is expected to be presented soon."

PREMIER

For Prime Minister Nelson Oduber, the Holloway case not fast enough past. In the news Nova said he estimated that Aruba already tens of millions of American dollars damage suffered by the case Natalee Holloway.

President Rob Smith of toeristenorganisatie Ahata think the momentum around this time will not run. "The effects of the case are significantly less time than a few years ago. I think rather that the weak American economy is a major factor for the failure of tourists. Aruba as a destination for short breaks remains popular, but I am more afraid for the traditional summer when the American middle class calls the island. "

A tourist examination showed that the Natalee Holloway case in 2005 was not the main factor for a decline in tourism. It rose toerismecijfer the first half of that year to a peak but ran strong at the end. The main causes were mentioned in oil prices, economic recession, high airline tickets, hotel rooms little by renovations (some hotels were even close) and severe hurricanes. The impact of the case Holloway was already lower than the aforementioned. This year especially the tourist industry is waiting with bated breath to see what the collapse of the housing market in the United States will mean for tourism here and so the Aruban economy.

"Ultimately cost the Holloway case us in 2005 up to six points on the scale that we use the proceeds of tourism," explains Smith of the Ahata. "Any point less cost the economy an estimated 25 million guilders. But compared with the region did when we nevertheless good. "

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_39470.php

These people give delusion a whole new meaning.  I guess if they tout it enough, they think they'll convince the Americans that we really didn't stop going and to come on down!  Good luck with that!  They really don't understand us.  We figure out a way to vacation - economies aside.  Sure, a few will still go, but it won't be the law abideing kind.

moo

[Tamikosmom]

Getagrip has several new articles translated and posted.  Most seem to be frim Diario:

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/kalpoe-brothers-case-against-dr.html

Thank you Anna.

I am thankful for getagrips faithfulness in providing tranlations of Jossy articles.  I wish that Jossy had an on-line English translation of the Diario publication.

Janet

[klaasend]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/

Front page of De Telegraaf:



 

[Lifesong]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/

Front page of De Telegraaf:



 

It's really happening!!        

FINALLY!

Praise God!

[Lala'sMom]

CORRUPTION & COVERUP UP

Oh yeah, we always ask the parents of missing persons if the victim has a history of seizures...it's part of the process...routine...we always ask this question...

WHO ASKED THE FAMILY ABOUT "SEIZURES" WITHIN 48 HOURS OF NATALEE MISSING: 

van der Stratten, Dennis Jacobs, Officer Tromp, and female investigator (to be named).

WHY?

BECAUSE THEY KNEW  -- THAT'S WHY--

They asked these questions within 48 hours of Natalee going missing -- and the ALE still arrested Mickey Johns and Abraham Jones on 6/5/2005 --

...3 DAYS LATER...

Oh yeah, this looks real good.

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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows

I know everyone just rolled their eyes to see me back and quoting Shango again....but this is what Shango was trying to tell those FP posters.   THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT....JUSTICE WILL BE DIFFICULT TO FIND.  Everyone can keep laughing at me all they want...but Shango was shouting the corruption story in almost every post he made.  The more that comes out...the more it all fits together. 

Sorry, where are my manners?  Morning Monkeys!

Lala's Mom,

I lurked for years before I signed on.  Well, actually I was an intial monkey but got lost in the crash.  Anyway, I don't think Shango / Simian is all bunk.  The corruption was quickly evident and really the only way to convey some things had to be done cryptically.

I don't roll my eyes when you post.  You are providing an invaluable service to this overall mystery, as are countless others.  I look forward to reading your posts and even though you sometimes think your ink in invisible, I assure you it is not.
 

I am humbled by your kindness. Thank you for noticing.

[SunnyinTX]

Posted on the front page of SM: 

Kloothommel wrote:


An small joke on an National radio show in the Netherlands.

Joran van de Sloot admits that he has commited suicide.

No one believes him anymore.

Good Morning Monks!!   Love this1  I heard on one of the shows this morning that the slops are worried that urine might commit suicide......awwww now that's a sympathy plea if I ever heard one.....his type kill others not themselves!!

[Frank]

Klaas,

This is awesome! the coverup goes worldwide!!!!!!!

[Frank]

Klaas,

Any translation!!