Natalee Case Discussion #726 2/7 - 2/8/08

[greeneyedlady]

Just read this @ Gretawire-Betty also says Yvonne is Gottenbos mother?

Comment by Betty, Canada
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Joran:
quote:
Ik heb gewoon kunnen slapen die nacht. Ik ben naar huis gegaan en heb geslapen. i could sleep normally that night. i just went home and slept
Patrick:
quote:
Maar hoe heet hij dan? what’s his name
Joran:
quote:
Daury **Daury
**Patrick:
quote:
Een arubaanse jongen? an aruban?
Joran:
quote:
Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no aRUBAN MOTHER
yvonne:

Heh, isn't Betty the name of the lady out of Chicago or Canada (can't remember) that received the original Deepak emails?  Just wondering....

I thought of her when I saw the name Betty, but not sure.

[vms]

Just read this @ Gretawire-Betty also says Yvonne is Gottenbos mother?

Comment by Betty, Canada
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Joran:
quote:
Ik heb gewoon kunnen slapen die nacht. Ik ben naar huis gegaan en heb geslapen. i could sleep normally that night. i just went home and slept
Patrick:
quote:
Maar hoe heet hij dan? what’s his name
Joran:
quote:
Daury **Daury
**Patrick:
quote:
Een arubaanse jongen? an aruban?
Joran:
quote:
Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no aRUBAN MOTHER
yvonne:

thanks GEL..I saw that as well...but also saw this......



Comment by MDJ_NL
February 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

@Betty,

That site (of refugees) is full with copy&paste from another site.
Yvonne is just the name of one of the posters who is given a comment in between. As you can see also, the name of Yvonne is followed by ‘:’.

Joran said Daury *bleep*. His lastname was bleeped away on the tape.
Later on Joran gave a journalist (the one who wrote his book) the phonenumber of one Daury he knows, and who is living in Holland.
Then proscecuter Hans Mos found out that this Daury’s last name is Rodriguez, and that’s not the lastname that is bleeped away on the tape. Also this Daury in Holland is 21. The Daury Joran was telling about on tape was 25.

and this is a perfect example of how unfounded rumors get started on the internet....I am not taking about GEL here.....

Looks like a sig line? for Petre from this site.  http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1123497

[Frijole]

Just read this @ Gretawire-Betty also says Yvonne is Gottenbos mother?

Comment by Betty, Canada
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Joran:
quote:
Ik heb gewoon kunnen slapen die nacht. Ik ben naar huis gegaan en heb geslapen. i could sleep normally that night. i just went home and slept
Patrick:
quote:
Maar hoe heet hij dan? what’s his name
Joran:
quote:
Daury **Daury
**Patrick:
quote:
Een arubaanse jongen? an aruban?
Joran:
quote:
Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no aRUBAN MOTHER
yvonne:

Heh, isn't Betty the name of the lady out of Chicago or Canada (can't remember) that received the original Deepak emails?  Just wondering....

I thought of her when I saw the name Betty, but not sure.

I think Wonderwoman was out of Chicago.  She recd the "Deepak Emails" from a Betty in Canada... could be a coincidence but maybe Betty is Deepak's voice on the blogs? This case is crazy.

[Pita]

Just read this @ Gretawire-Betty also says Yvonne is Gottenbos mother?

Comment by Betty, Canada
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Joran:
quote:
Ik heb gewoon kunnen slapen die nacht. Ik ben naar huis gegaan en heb geslapen. i could sleep normally that night. i just went home and slept
Patrick:
quote:
Maar hoe heet hij dan? what’s his name
Joran:
quote:
Daury **Daury
**Patrick:
quote:
Een arubaanse jongen? an aruban?
Joran:
quote:
Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no aRUBAN MOTHER
yvonne:

I thought her name was Renita?

I thought so too!   

[SunnyinTX]

Comment by MDJ_NL
February 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

***breaking news***
Joran stated today that what he was saying on tape was due to the use of marihuana… He doesn’t want to change his earlier statements as given to the police…. he denies to have anything to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway… He is not arrested.


Posted on GretaWire

[greeneyedlady]

Nevermind this was just posted, explaining it. sorry

Comment by MDJ_NL
February 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
@Betty,

That site (of refugees) is full with copy&paste from another site.
Yvonne is just the name of one of the posters who is given a comment in between. As you can see also, the name of Yvonne is followed by ‘:’.

Joran said Daury *bleep*. His lastname was bleeped away on the tape.
Later on Joran gave a journalist (the one who wrote his book) the phonenumber of one Daury he knows, and who is living in Holland.
Then proscecuter Hans Mos found out that this Daury’s last name is Rodriguez, and that’s not the lastname that is bleeped away on the tape. Also this Daury in Holland is 21. The Daury Joran was telling about on tape was 25.

[Nut44x4]

Since when are we to believe what Anita says?

Half brother or not, I'm still not ready to completely dismiss him.

I AGREE!!!!!!!!

[Nut44x4]

Since when are we to believe what Anita says?

Hi Nut...LOL

Have you seen any other articles by Anita since this started...I am just wondering what her tone was in those, that is if there are any.....

No...not since the new revelations have come forth..not any comments I can remember anyway.

[Spock]

Joran:  Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no

Need a translation, I think he is saying the Boat friend is half aruban half dutch. We heard that before. My best guess is SG had the boat parked at the Marriot dock after his late afternoon-evening cruise. Joran was invited but declined to go on the boat party that night saying he had to be at C&C instead.

So the boat friend could be (1) SG or KG, (2) SC who was supposed to be watching the Tattoo off Marriot Beach, and (3) LVR, probably too far way to fit the timeline.

[greeneyedlady]

Comment by MDJ_NL
February 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

***breaking news***
Joran stated today that what he was saying on tape was due to the use of marihuana… He doesn’t want to change his earlier statements as given to the police…. he denies to have anything to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway… He is not arrested.

Damn they oughta be able to get him for something-Mental Cruelty to Natalee's family for one.
Posted on GretaWire

[MumInOhio]

Does anyone know how the bank teller who waited on Paulus died?  Just reading some old stuff and she couldn't be called to testify in 2005 because she died two weeks after Paulus had gone to the bank, re: Joran's winnings from night before.  Her name was Rita Dj------???  Just curious.

Same name as the Sloot maid, my spelling is terrible, but something like Djikoff. But wasn't she Ruth? I believe in her fifties and died in the Netherlands. I just read about her this morning in Paulus PVs. Do you have the date she died? His PV's start on 6/18 and the others may be 6/23 and 6/24.   TIA

[greeneyedlady]

Oops- sorry sunny for messing up your quote.

[Spock]

Joran:  Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no

Need a translation, I think he is saying the Boat friend is half aruban half dutch. We heard that before. My best guess is SG had the boat parked at the Marriot dock after his late afternoon-evening cruise. Joran was invited but declined to go on the boat party that night saying he had to be at C&C instead.

So the boat friend could be (1) SG or KG, (2) SC who was supposed to be watching the Tattoo off Marriot Beach, and (3) LVR, probably too far way to fit the timeline.

I would be looking hard at SG and SC if I was in the prosecutor's office.

[jehnifer]

I feel like if we knew the absolute truth about just a couple of keys things then we might know more of the whole story.  Firstly,  1)  What piece of furntiure was delivered to the Sloot's residence?  Can't someone find this out?   2) Was it or was it not blood in K2s car?  And 3) Was it human blood on the mattress found on the beach?

[Frank]

This is excellent news!

The millions of people who saw the tape, and don't know the details, will now ask the important question:

Why?

Pressure back on the Dirty Police.

[Tylergal]

Betty from Canada.
A cartoonist from Canada showing targeting of Natalee.
WonderWoman (I thought Michigan but could be Chicago).
Is SandraK still defending her "baby," Steve Croes?

[caesu]

Extra: Peter R. DeVries on US television

From Wednesday on Peter R. DeVries stays in the United States where he has visited a number of television programs. He has been invited by the ABC show Goodmorning America. The last few days Peter R. DeVries attended The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet (Fox), Fox Newsdesk (Fox News), Inside Edition (Channel 9), Larry King Live (CNN), Greta van Susteren (Fox News) and The Nancy Grace Show (CNN).

Friday an interview with Peter R. DeVries and Beth Twitty, Natalee Holloway’s mother, in Geraldo At Large has been recorded. The show will be broadcast this weekend.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-peter-us-tv.htm

Thanks caesu...are you hearing anything about an announcement out of aruba???

al latest news is been reported here on SM.
you guys are very up-to-date on everything.

*statement by Joran in Rotterdam
*decision wether to re-arrested Joran, after weekend.

OM Aruba don't want a witchhunt

because it may interfere with investigation

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3252568/_OM_Aruba__Geen_heksenjacht_media__.html

i don't read aruban news, just dutch. i can't read papiamento.

i just want to say again that i am amazed how you guys in the USA been working on this for the last few years.
i think most of you know 100 times more about aruba than the average dutchie or even aruban.
reading and watching all dutch and aruban (papiamento!) newspapers and newscasts, news shows... this is really an extrodinairy effort you are doing
and still so much hurtfull misinformation against beth / natalee floating around on the internets and MSM
i hope one day all will be resolved and be uncovered.
peter r. de vries is your angel from heaven. i can't say enough how determined he is.

here another sting operation from him:
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/41150/56709cef/peter_r_de_vries_pwned_verachte_.html
this man burned his house down with his wife in it because she discovered his gambling addiction.
the sting operation is about another man how also wants to kill his wife and asks him to do it for him

[Katysmom]

Does anyone know how the bank teller who waited on Paulus died?  Just reading some old stuff and she couldn't be called to testify in 2005 because she died two weeks after Paulus had gone to the bank, re: Joran's winnings from night before.  Her name was Rita Dj------???  Just curious.

Same name as the Sloot maid, my spelling is terrible, but something like Djikoff. But wasn't she Ruth? I believe in her fifties and died in the Netherlands. I just read about her this morning in Paulus PVs. Do you have the date she died? His PV's start on 6/18 and the others may be 6/23 and 6/24.   TIA

Ruth Gisela Dijkhoff-Holtmann???   06/18/05

[caesu]

Just read this @ Gretawire-Betty also says Yvonne is Gottenbos mother?

Comment by Betty, Canada
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Joran:
quote:
Ik heb gewoon kunnen slapen die nacht. Ik ben naar huis gegaan en heb geslapen. i could sleep normally that night. i just went home and slept
Patrick:
quote:
Maar hoe heet hij dan? what’s his name
Joran:
quote:
Daury **Daury
**Patrick:
quote:
Een arubaanse jongen? an aruban?
Joran:
quote:
Nee, hij heeft wel een arubaanse moeder no aRUBAN MOTHER
yvonne:

thanks GEL..I saw that as well...but also saw this......



Comment by MDJ_NL
February 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

@Betty,

That site (of refugees) is full with copy&paste from another site.
Yvonne is just the name of one of the posters who is given a comment in between. As you can see also, the name of Yvonne is followed by ‘:’.

Joran said Daury *bleep*. His lastname was bleeped away on the tape.
Later on Joran gave a journalist (the one who wrote his book) the phonenumber of one Daury he knows, and who is living in Holland.
Then proscecuter Hans Mos found out that this Daury’s last name is Rodriguez, and that’s not the lastname that is bleeped away on the tape. Also this Daury in Holland is 21. The Daury Joran was telling about on tape was 25.

and this is a perfect example of how unfounded rumors get started on the internet....I am not taking about GEL here.....

Looks like a sig line? for Petre from this site.  http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1123497

yes she is yvonne, an forum admin on fok-forum
she is a mother and also posting in the english topics on fok-forum (monkey ******* is been trying very hard there to combat misinformation)

[SunnyinTX]

Oops- sorry sunny for messing up your quote.

Oh mercy GEL think nothing of it I do it all the time....