Natalee Case Discussion #728 2/10 - 2/11/08

[imnoangel]

i have read somewhere at scareymonkeys that paulus van der sloot had acces to all files when joran was in prison.
im sure i read it at scareymonkeys.

[Rob]

who works here?

[cubbeegirl]

Klaasend, thank you very much for activating my account!

Hi Monkeys,
I'm a newbie, have been reading your posts for the past week or so and am very impressed of what you all came up with.

Reading all posts I became more and more convinced that Paulus van der Sloot is the evil genius in  this whole sceme.
I do not have proof for the following, but in my opinion this is what happened:
Paulus is the one who had access to information at the times Joran was in jail, and he easily could inform Joran what Joran should watch out for by using Jorans attorney as a messenger.
No doubt in my mind that he did it that way.

A teenage boy would normally get scared and confess but Joran didn't. Why?
Because Paulus told him from the beginning it was going to be allright.
Joran just had to hang in there and deny his involvement.
Joran grew up while his father was practising law. Why then does Joran have no respect at all for the law?
Because he saw and heard too much of he old boys network at the vdS-home while growing up.
And why does Joran obviously have no respect at all for his father?
Who can respect an elder who obviously is lying his *ss off and ties to blame you, a child, for his own doing??
In my opinion, Paulus expected to get away with it all, but then Joran was arrested.
Paulus thought: well, he is a minor, IF he ever gets the blame and get convicted,
he wil get a diminished sentence.
And why did Paulus say that if there's no body there's no crime?
Legally that's true, but I think he said it because he knew they couldn't find a body.
Its about time they dig up that pool at the vanderSloots' property.
I really don't understand why they havent done that already years ago.

I would like the Dutch government not to pay a florin to Aruba anymore till this case is solved.
And when the rumours get loud enough, questions wil be asked about this case in the dutch parliament, if so, probably a dutch investigation will start and heads will roll.
With the deVries tapes, in Holland this may be a reason for reasonable doubt, i think.
If so then they can re open the case.
but im not sure about aruban law.
Further,knowing Peter de Vries, he has other leads. Peter does not act on a single thing without a backup theory. And from what i hear and read, he also thinks Paulus is in up to his ears on this.
I have to excuse myself for the poor english in my posts,but i hope you all understand what i wrote here.
Bye for now,
Imnoangel

Welcome to Scared Monkeys!

Remember there was a confession on 6/10/05 that was retracted.  I believe Joran did confess and that's when the coverup went into full swing.

Hi imnoangel!Glad to have you on board!
Klaas, I believe the exactly the same as you do....Confession 6/10/05.....Retraction......
Coverup begins ........
I will never , ever believe any different.....
There is nothing that can make me change my mind.There are many things about this case that I have doubts about, but that is not one of them.....JMO

[Auntiem]

who works here?

 OK Rob, I give up!!!  If it's not Mark Purcell...who is it??

[Destiny]

Imnoangel...Welcome to the Cage!

Your english is wonderful...I don't know any Dutch..lol

Thank You for your contributions

[Bladerunner]

Was this photo ever dated?

[imnoangel]

i just do not believe they dropped her in the ocean.
much too risky.
and besides, they do not want to get caught, why lying all this time and then tell where to search...
it just doesnt make sense
i put my money on the pool.

[Destiny]

i just do not believe they dropped her in the ocean.
much too risky.
and besides, they do not want to get caught, why lying all this time and then tell where to search...
it just doesnt make sense
i put my money on the pool.

I agree with you on this one...but I also think *something* is in a crab cage in the ocean..I think it will be found too. Praying it will be. God/Goddes speed the Persistance.

[Rob]

Was this photo ever dated?

I believe that was 6-15-2005. But I could be mistaken.

[AZSunny]

Was this photo ever dated?

I believe that was 6-15-2005. But I could be mistaken.

Who is the guy in the pink shirt standing next to Jansen?

[Katysmom]

>>>>taps toes<<<

Rob, you're not sitting in a bathroom stall at the Minneapolis airport are you?  Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[klaasend]

>>>>taps toes<<<

Tapping fingers wondering why you are tapping your toes? 

cause I get what Anna's gettin' at....

I'm just waiting for someone to say it....LOL

We discussed it yesterday I think.....mpjr

[fran]

i just do not believe they dropped her in the ocean.
much too risky.
and besides, they do not want to get caught, why lying all this time and then tell where to search...
it just doesnt make sense
i put my money on the pool.

What's confusing is that Dompig told Jossy that each time there was an ocean search, the three suspects got very nervous. Could he have been saying this to throw the case, Jossy off?

I'm thinking she COULD be in the landfill. Lots of mystery around that place. Witness who saw three men dump a blond woman wrapped in a rug, 6/01. Has he been discredited?

Dave et al were stopped from digging and when they returned to the same area it had been covered up. Why?

I'm with you, she MAY not be in the ocean. Too convenient, IMO.

JMHO
fran

[Auntiem]

   Looks like that head detective.  Better question who has the mask on and why?????

[jackb]

San

Exactly, any prosecutor could have been sent across the pond.  Why this one?  Isn't Lugo really the head one?

Auntiem

I don't believe that Peter DeVries is holding back the smoking gun.  I wish Patrick would have been more probing but he really isn't a trained interrogator. It is what it is.....which is a whole lot more than we had before a lay person got involved.  I think we've all wanted a full confession, from day one. I believe there was one at one point.

I would imagine that which can be used as evidentiary material would not be released to the public.  Also, we really do not know which country sent Patrick.  Nothig is as it seems many time.  Some people work for different countries under the guise of being a hoodlum if it suits the purpose.  Their records checked reveal what the sender wants the public or whomever to see.  It is an easy thing.  As I have said many times, all is not as it seems.  This country and other countries have people working and living there that bind together for the good and is deep within other agencies where not many can uncover the patriotic work.  Some things just have to be.        Jack Blue

Where's that standing "O" for you, Jack Blue. What you said is so true.  We cannot always get under the kitchen sink of governments to see how the disposal works.

No but I can sure as hell tell when the disposal is broke when there is nasty water all over the kitchen floor, and my kitchen floor is flooded with dirty dish water.

That is what happens when liquid plummer is not used regularly, then the experts have to come in.  Also, in the meantime mop up and make you a path to walk in.     Jack blue

[caesu]

Klaasend, thank you very much for activating my account!

Hi Monkeys,
I'm a newbie, have been reading your posts for the past week or so and am very impressed of what you all came up with.

Reading all posts I became more and more convinced that Paulus van der Sloot is the evil genius in  this whole sceme.
I do not have proof for the following, but in my opinion this is what happened:
Paulus is the one who had access to information at the times Joran was in jail, and he easily could inform Joran what Joran should watch out for by using Jorans attorney as a messenger.
No doubt in my mind that he did it that way.

A teenage boy would normally get scared and confess but Joran didn't. Why?
Because Paulus told him from the beginning it was going to be allright.
Joran just had to hang in there and deny his involvement.
Joran grew up while his father was practising law. Why then does Joran have no respect at all for the law?
Because he saw and heard too much of he old boys network at the vdS-home while growing up.
And why does Joran obviously have no respect at all for his father?
Who can respect an elder who obviously is lying his *ss off and ties to blame you, a child, for his own doing??
In my opinion, Paulus expected to get away with it all, but then Joran was arrested.
Paulus thought: well, he is a minor, IF he ever gets the blame and get convicted,
he wil get a diminished sentence.
And why did Paulus say that if there's no body there's no crime?
Legally that's true, but I think he said it because he knew they couldn't find a body.
Its about time they dig up that pool at the vanderSloots' property.
I really don't understand why they havent done that already years ago.

I would like the Dutch government not to pay a florin to Aruba anymore till this case is solved.
And when the rumours get loud enough, questions wil be asked about this case in the dutch parliament, if so, probably a dutch investigation will start and heads will roll.
With the deVries tapes, in Holland this may be a reason for reasonable doubt, i think.
If so then they can re open the case.
but im not sure about aruban law.
Further,knowing Peter de Vries, he has other leads. Peter does not act on a single thing without a backup theory. And from what i hear and read, he also thinks Paulus is in up to his ears on this.
I have to excuse myself for the poor english in my posts,but i hope you all understand what i wrote here.
Bye for now,
Imnoangel

Very true!! exactly what i am thinking.

also some dutch people don't like it when somebody is in the spotlight for a long time unregarding the goal is very honourable and the spotlight is needed for the cause.

they got bored of Beth, and now they are getting bored of Peter R. too.
but both Beth and Peter are very determinant.
Peter knows how to set dutch people in motion

[Rob]

>>>>taps toes<<<

Rob, you're not sitting in a bathroom stall at the Minneapolis airport are you?  Sorry, I couldn't resist.

  back @ ya.. LOL

[Destiny]

Was this photo ever dated?

I believe that was 6-15-2005. But I could be mistaken.

That person on the far right of the photo is dressed in medical garb...

[Auntiem]

  Oh!!!! Jr.

[Rob]

Was this photo ever dated?

I believe that was 6-15-2005. But I could be mistaken.

Who is the guy in the pink shirt standing next to Jansen?

van der Straaten